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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

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So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Ok, I'll bite. Who, in your mind, controls far-right political messaging?

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I wouldn't know. I'm not nor have I ever been a part of the "far-right." As far as I can tell the "far-right" has a few loons in the House and maybe one or two in the Senate.

Your party on the other hand has one or two moderates. The rest are MARXISTS. And anyone that still supports them are as well.

FACT.

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for someone who on the past complained about being painted with a broad brush you sure do like to do it yourself. I'm most certainly more liberal than you when it come to social politics, does that mean I'm a Marxist?

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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PackBacker07 said:

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Ok, I'll bite. Who, in your mind, controls far-right political messaging?

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I wouldn't know. I'm not nor have I ever been a part of the "far-right." As far as I can tell the "far-right" has a few loons in the House and maybe one or two in the Senate.

Your party on the other hand has one or two moderates. The rest are MARXISTS. And anyone that still supports them are as well.

FACT.

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for someone who on the past complained about being painted with a broad brush you sure do like to do it yourself. I'm most certainly more liberal than you when it come to social politics, does that mean I'm a Marxist?

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• expanding/stacking the SCOTUS in their favor
• federalizing elections so they can ensure universal "mail-in" ballots and gerrymandering in their favor like in Illinois
• adding PR and DC as states to ensure permanent one party rule
• abolishing the 2nd Amendment
• legalizing full term abortions. California has just introduced a bill to allow "abortion" up to 28 days AFTER the birth of a child.
• free college and health care for illegal immigrants
• open border policy
• allowing illegal immigrants to vote
• teaching kids that there are 100+ genders as early as pre-school
• teaching kids in PUBLIC schools about sex, masturbation and that there are 100+ genders starting in Kindergarten
• parents should not have any role in their children's education and if they speak out they are terrorist
• abolishing the fossil fuel industry
• reducing the amount of meat eaten by Americans by mandates
• "social media" credit scores for all users

hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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hokiewolf said:

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BBW12OG said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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yes, twice! My disappointment in Trump didn't start until after the 2020 election

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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yes, twice! My disappointment in Trump didn't start until after the 2020 election

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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yes, twice! My disappointment in Trump didn't start until after the 2020 election

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caryking said:

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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yes, twice! My disappointment in Trump didn't start until after the 2020 election

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Why after the 2020 election? For clarity, after 3 November?

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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I actually have never voted for a democrat

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Did you vote for President Trump?

Thanks for coming out.

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yes, twice! My disappointment in Trump didn't start until after the 2020 election

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Why after the 2020 election? For clarity, after 3 November?

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correct

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Werewolf said:

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Hoke doesn't believe the election was stolen, correct?

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caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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Hoke doesn't believe the election was stolen, correct?

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I don't think so; however, I'm ok with his opinion. Everyone forms opinions based on the information provided to them.

The information provided to me shows that a significant amount of votes were illegal. I have no idea who these illegal votes were casted for; however, there was plenty of illegal votes.

I saw a show where the people that have done all data collecting and analysis for the upcoming documentary for Dinesh D'Souza. That data collecting, along with video content show a significant amount of illegal voting. The people doing the collecting said they can not provide who these illegal votes went to. They can just provide and create an assessment of the number of illegal votes. Based on a sample, they projected 4.5 to 4.9 million illegal votes.

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

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So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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And yet… you didn't answer my question.

What policies make up the far right?

Either you can answer the question or you're just trolling…

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

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So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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And yet… you didn't answer my question.

What policies make up the far right?

Either you can answer the question or you're just trolling…

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I did answer your question - in this case, I'm not here to debate about what is far right ideology. As I told XL, I think within politics, it's a fairy small group, but likely to get bigger with your America First agenda.
It exists more in the fools who think the government is out to get them and can allow words to make them
Act stupid enough to break into buildings

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BBW12OG said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

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So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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And yet… you didn't answer my question.

What policies make up the far right?

Either you can answer the question or you're just trolling…

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I did answer your question - in this case, I'm not here to debate about what is far right ideology. As I told XL, I think within politics, it's a fairy small group, but likely to get bigger with your America First agenda.
It exists more in the fools who think the government is out to get them and can allow words to make them
Act stupid enough to break into buildings

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The left has plenty of "fools" on their side as well.

Sorry the "America First" doesn't adhere to your MARXIST philosophy. And when you have the government creating lists of parents that attend school board meetings, people who are legally purchasing guns and hiring more IRS agents to target people who donate money to Conservative causes I think people are right to question the government's intentions.

Some people choose not to be a sheep. It's what separates the right from the left. FACT.

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Yeah, I'm failing to understand how "America First" policy-making can be construed as something radical.

To me is just pure common sense.

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

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So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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And yet… you didn't answer my question.

What policies make up the far right?

Either you can answer the question or you're just trolling…

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I did answer your question - in this case, I'm not here to debate about what is far right ideology. As I told XL, I think within politics, it's a fairy small group, but likely to get bigger with your America First agenda.
It exists more in the fools who think the government is out to get them and can allow words to make them
Act stupid enough to break into buildings

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Yeah, I'm failing to understand how "America First" policy-making can be construed as something radical.

To me is just pure common sense.

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Many of its tenants are. But I think much of its rhetoric will be used to rally folks to more extreme measure (don't let all this Mexican criminals come into US - as the crowd roars)

I also am not a fan of the "you'll have to take my bazooka and billions of ammo from my cold dead hands" crowd, but I just don't have energy to argue that, so will leave it at that.

Nor the "don't spend any money on foreign countries"…which is not far from the isolationism that has gotten us into trouble before

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Werewolf said:

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^ Under 40, guarantee it. He's not a major danger to us going forward, he's easily identified.

The real dangers are the RINO establishment R's.....which are simply the 'wrester that loses in the big WWE match'. They win a few but never win the big one. These are the ones we need to weed out. They'll vote Kevin McCarthy for House R leader, they've vote Richard Burr again, they are all-in on Leader McConnell. The UNI-PARTY is going to try to steal the Primaries.............they stay in power that way. That's the focus.

Have you heard the audio clip this AM between Liz Cheney and Kevin McCarthy. These are the ones to identify and oust.

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TheStorm said:

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I think you are confusing "America First" policy with what you feel is an "America Only" position. There is a huge difference between "First" and "Only".

Do you take care your own family, wife and kids first and foremost? Or do you put your neighbor across the street and his family's interests ahead of you and yours?

This is common sense.

By the way, I have a close friend under the age of 30 who is Mexican-American from Texas. He was born in Texas, but both his parents and all his grandparents were born in Mexico and immigrated here - legally. He served in our military for eight years starting right out of high school, and now has a great job with a private defense contractor making more money than I can even imagine someone that age making.

He absolutely loathes what is happening right now at our southern border... wished you could sit down with him just once even and listen to him tell you some of the stories about all the things he saw growing up that are controlled in the border states by the cartels. If he was posting on here, you'd probably be accusing him right now of being a rightwing, nutjob like you do us! (Since I can now include myself in your esteemed "Group of Four" )

The thing that you, I and most of us from families that have been here for generations and somehow can't bring ourselves to understand is that there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Mexican-American's just like him in those states. Worked hard to make something of themselves, and did it the right way... by following these archaic things that seem to turn you and hokie off more often than not... that used to be considered "laws" and "rules of common decency" ("do unto your neighbor as you would have them do onto you", and other stupid stuff like that, that our parents tried to instill in us as we were growing up!).

These are the people that the Democrats are losing in waves right now.

America First is pure common sense. There is nothing radical about it whatsoever.

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caryking said:

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Werewolf said:

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^ Under 40, guarantee it. He's not a major danger to us going forward, he's easily identified.

The real dangers are the RINO establishment R's.....which are simply the 'wrester that loses in the big WWE match'. They win a few but never win the big one. These are the ones we need to weed out. They'll vote Kevin McCarthy for House R leader, they've vote Richard Burr again, they are all-in on Leader McConnell. The UNI-PARTY is going to try to steal the Primaries.............they stay in power that way. That's the focus.

Have you heard the audio clip this AM between Liz Cheney and Kevin McCarthy. These are the ones to identify and oust.

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werewolf, you and I must be watching at the same time.

That audio clip is the epitome of establishment. Then McCarthy has the audacity to deny it... All I can say is Rachel Maddow brought the receipts...

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TheStorm said:

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I think you are confusing "America First" policy with what you feel is an "America Only" position. There is a huge difference between "First" and "Only".

Do you take care your own family, wife and kids first and foremost? Or do you put your neighbor across the street and his family's interests ahead of you and yours?

This is common sense.

By the way, I have a close friend under the age of 30 who is Mexican-American from Texas. He was born in Texas, but both his parents and all his grandparents were born in Mexico and immigrated here - legally. He served in our military for eight years starting right out of high school, and now has a great job with a private defense contractor making more money than I can even imagine someone that age making.

He absolutely loathes what is happening right now at our southern border... wished you could sit down with him just once even and listen to him tell you some of the stories about all the things he saw growing up that are controlled in the border states by the cartels. If he was posting on here, you'd probably be accusing him right now of being a rightwing, nutjob like you do us! (Since I can now include myself in your esteemed "Group of Four" )

The thing that you, I and most of us from families that have been here for generations and somehow can't bring ourselves to understand is that there are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Mexican-American's just like him in those states. Worked hard to make something of themselves, and did it the right way... by following these archaic things that seem to turn you and hokie off more often than not... that used to be considered "laws" and "rules of common decency" ("do unto your neighbor as you would have them do onto you", and other stupid stuff like that, that our parents tried to instill in us as we were growing up!).

These are the people that the Democrats are losing in waves right now.

America First is pure common sense. There is nothing radical about it whatsoever.

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Werewolf said:

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LOL. What are you going to do Hoke when the electiion fraud is revealed? Deny it or accept it?

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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Packchem91 said:

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caryking said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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PackFansXL said:

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If Biden had any sense, he would sit down with Manchin and truly understand what moderates want. His complete allegiance to the extreme Progressives has doomed the Democratic party for the next two election cycles. Joe Biden is a disaster for the Democrats. The worst POTUS of all time!

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True Story

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Yep, if the country can hang on, this is the best thing that can happen. We need a complete eradication of the Democratic Party!!

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Lol, come on man, do you really believe crap like this? While I lean right, this is a ludicrous, scary notion. America is awesome and stands the test of time because of the balance.

I get the distaste for the far left, but most of America has (amd should) a similar distaste for the far right.

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Yes I do!

BTW, what policies make up the far right?

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I'm not going to get distracted into a debate on what is and what is not…if you think it's smart to get rid of the counter balance then I think you are either naive or dangerous. One of the things that keeps us from having a bigger right or left wing is that we have a counter balance

---

So, you can call me naive or dangerous; however, you want even attempt to define policies that makes one part of the extremes?

Chem, are you just trolling?

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If you believe we should have only your party, I stand by my concern.

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And yet… you didn't answer my question.

What policies make up the far right?

Either you can answer the question or you're just trolling…

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I did answer your question - in this case, I'm not here to debate about what is far right ideology. As I told XL, I think within politics, it's a fairy small group, but likely to get bigger with your America First agenda.
It exists more in the fools who think the government is out to get them and can allow words to make them
Act stupid enough to break into buildings

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Chem, this is very typical for you... You make statements; however, you back it up with personal rhetoric. It should be easy for you, as you claim the country has a far right element, to identify the policies that make up the far right...

If you don't want to debate this, then just admit... you're either too busy to get into the debate, lack knowledge, love spewwing outlandish rhetoric, or you're just trolling.

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