BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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• Drive faster than the speed limit
• Dinking and driving
• Use your cell phone while driving
• Rolling through a stop sign

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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The better question is why are you posting and arguing on IPS if you are at a resort in Mexico? I love sharing ideas and debating on here like the rest of you but IPS is not on my radar when I am on vacation. "Enjoying my life with my wife" at a beach resort in Mexico as I argue on a message board. Sorry, thats hilarious to me.

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It was 9 am champ. Commenting on another man's family life like that on a forum… I see you though. That's a trash ****ing post and you know it

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Wolfpack said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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The better question is why are you posting and arguing on IPS if you are at a resort in Mexico? I love sharing ideas and debating on here like the rest of you but IPS is not on my radar when I am on vacation. "Enjoying my life with my wife" at a beach resort in Mexico as I argue on a message board. Sorry, thats hilarious to me.

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It was 9 am champ. Commenting on another man's family life like that on a forum… I see you though. That's a trash ****ing post and you know it

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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I think you are missing the point for most people. We have a bunch of people, on this site, saying: I disagree with mandates as it is tyrannical. These same people are fully vaccinated.

So, I recommend getting your arguments more clearly stated.

BTW, Southwest Airlines just dropped their forced mandate by December. Company's are getting the message and thats a good thing. These Woke companies need to be concerned about running a good company and get out of the political theatre!!!

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BobbyCox95 said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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The better question is why are you posting and arguing on IPS if you are at a resort in Mexico? I love sharing ideas and debating on here like the rest of you but IPS is not on my radar when I am on vacation. "Enjoying my life with my wife" at a beach resort in Mexico as I argue on a message board. Sorry, thats hilarious to me.

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It was 9 am champ. Commenting on another man's family life like that on a forum… I see you though. That's a trash ****ing post and you know it

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You brought it up champ. Coming on here to put others down about their personal choices while "enjoying vacation". You do you tho!

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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The bolded statement can be applied to a bunch of things. How many do you do?

• Drive faster than the speed limit
• Dinking and driving
• Use your cell phone while driving
• Rolling through a stop sign

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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The better question is why are you posting and arguing on IPS if you are at a resort in Mexico? I love sharing ideas and debating on here like the rest of you but IPS is not on my radar when I am on vacation. "Enjoying my life with my wife" at a beach resort in Mexico as I argue on a message board. Sorry, thats hilarious to me.

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It was 9 am champ. Commenting on another man's family life like that on a forum… I see you though. That's a trash ****ing post and you know it

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You brought it up champ. Coming on here to put others down about their personal choices while "enjoying vacation". You do you tho!

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I didn't bring **** up. You want me to apologize for having a wife that loves NC State and all the things that come with it as much a different do. I'm sorry for being so blessed my man! I'm not angry, you sound jealous

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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BobbyCox95 said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Wolfpack said:

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Y'all snowflakes don't know what real tyranny is and it shows. Go get on a plane, travel, and see the world

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Can't. Too many restrictions on international travel. It's the tyranny, you see.

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I'm sitting on a resort in Mexico doing just fine my friend!

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Really? Well, since you took your own advice, I assume the tyranny down there is first-rate?

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Lol. Yeah I wouldn't equate "resorts" to "seeing the world". But hey, I'm vaccinated, I'm here, enjoying my life with my wife and not being controlled by 5G waves

We live, we'll also die, making some BS stand for your perceived "rights and freedoms"… well the only tyrant to yourself is, well, YOU

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The better question is why are you posting and arguing on IPS if you are at a resort in Mexico? I love sharing ideas and debating on here like the rest of you but IPS is not on my radar when I am on vacation. "Enjoying my life with my wife" at a beach resort in Mexico as I argue on a message board. Sorry, thats hilarious to me.

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It was 9 am champ. Commenting on another man's family life like that on a forum… I see you though. That's a trash ****ing post and you know it

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You brought it up champ. Coming on here to put others down about their personal choices while "enjoying vacation". You do you tho!

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I didn't bring **** up. You want me to apologize for having a wife that loves NC State and all the things that come with it as much a different do. I'm sorry for being so blessed my man! I'm not angry, you sound jealous

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What the hell are you even arguing anymore? I don't know anything about you or your wife and don't want to. But you come on here and trash everyone that doesn't believe the way you do and call them snowflakes and then start crying when someone laughs at you for being glued to a message board during your awesome vacation? I would never be jealous of someone who doesn't know how to vacation properly.

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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Lol. Semantic weak sauce.

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if he was forced to get the shot he would have had the shot by now. because you know....he was forced....he does not have the shot so no one forced him. not sure why that is hard to understand.

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I appreciate the mods letting it go-I really find it helpful to see other educated people's views. I am pretty opened minded about the subject because it is such a moving target. Hell, our leaders (both sides) have changed the rules through out the past 20 months.

Couple of observation:
1. I am shocked that so many people are open to getting their 4-6 year olds the shot so quickly without even asking the question why is there a delay. What are they looking at that it may not be safe for a developing child. Healthy kids are virtually at no risk at all as less than 500 under 12 YOs have died from COVID, and we have no idea how many of those under 500 have underlying conditions. I assume that the news just scares the **** out people as they love to show stories of a 10 YO who has died but you never hear the whole thing. I have two healthy teenagers and I have zero fear as I believe I am following the science. I will definitely do more research when it gets approved but I am not going to be the first in line.

2. People that have such absolute views on either side should keep the door open on either side. This thing could go away or develop more deadly variants in the future. If you develop such strong opinions now, it may prevent you from looking threw a different lens as variables change.

Stay safe and go Pack

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

---

Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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Lol. Semantic weak sauce.

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if he was forced to get the shot he would have had the shot by now. because you know....he was forced....he does not have the shot so no one forced him. not sure why that is hard to understand.

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Oh I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying it's semantic stupidity. He wasn't forced to!!! He was just fired because he wouldn't. Zzzzzzzz.

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He was fired because he could not fulfill his duties as a state employee.

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CLTWolf said:

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caryking said:

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I am in the strange position of thinking pretty much everyone should get vaccinated for their own good while being completely against mandates.

The risk of the unvaccinated to the vaccinated doesn't rise to the level where we should violate folks bodily autonomy. As a vaccinated person I have no fear of being around unvaccinated folks.

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This is pretty much me as well.

My only issue with being vaccinated around the unvaccinated is that I have 3 young children and I don't want them to get the rona.

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You have a choice that will have consequences…. Don't take your kids anywhere people that are not vaccinated could be.

Actually, that may infringe upon your personal freedoms so you will mandate vaccination! See how this works! You have a choice!!!

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Yea, I'm not sure what that means.

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Basically same thing that I thought for your post. I guess it's just a fun way to respond to your frontier gibberish.

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caryking said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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packgrad said:

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BUCKETTOFCOLDWATER said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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The bolded statement can be applied to a bunch of things. How many do you do?

• Drive faster than the speed limit
• Dinking and driving
• Use your cell phone while driving
• Rolling through a stop sign

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so you are saying that since all of these things are commonly done all the time that the shot should be something people are ok with too? ok got it.

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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Lol. Semantic weak sauce.

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if he was forced to get the shot he would have had the shot by now. because you know....he was forced....he does not have the shot so no one forced him. not sure why that is hard to understand.

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Oh I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying it's semantic stupidity. He wasn't forced to!!! He was just fired because he wouldn't. Zzzzzzzz.

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think about this.....a grown ass man making 3.2 million dollars to coach the game he loves cannot even go get a shot that 97% of the student body at the school he coaches has gotten. what a leader.

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I meant delay from adults to children

Either way, why was it safe for a 13 YO and not a 12 YO

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We are losing our freedoms quickly and this needs to stop.

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They didn't lose any freedoms. They were free to chose and chose they did. America. They are free to find employment elsewhere.

I don't like wearing a seatbelt. Why should I be mandated to do that? Im free not to wear it but after that 2nd ticket I started wearing it.

Freedom of choice does not mean freedom from consequence.

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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Lol. Semantic weak sauce.

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if he was forced to get the shot he would have had the shot by now. because you know....he was forced....he does not have the shot so no one forced him. not sure why that is hard to understand.

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Oh I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying it's semantic stupidity. He wasn't forced to!!! He was just fired because he wouldn't. Zzzzzzzz.

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He was fired because he could not fulfill his duties as a state employee.

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Thought he quit?

His duties don't include vaccinations. Perhaps you have some information about his job contract that includes vaccinations that I'm unaware of? As somebody that supposedly doesn't care if people get vaccinated or not, pretty crazy you think it's someone's "duty" to be vaccinated.

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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packgrad said:

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the coaching staff quit on their players.....how brave of them

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They didn't quit. No need to lie about what happened.

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they chose not to do what was required of them to keep their job. so they quit

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No, they didn't quit. They chose to not be forced to do something they were uncomfortable with. They showed character for standing up for themselves. You're showing your character by misrepresenting what happened.

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they chose not to get a shot that millions of other people have gotten. good for them. I am sure their players and families are proud of them for making such a bold stand. we should erect a monument in their honor. SMH.....dudes are clowns that let their politics impact the young men that they are supposed to lead

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Yes I know. You lied. They didn't quit. But your politics make you say they did. SMH.

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i am not being political. I do not care who gets the shot and who does not. but as others have said your choices impact more than just you sometimes. in this case it impacted their families and the young men that they promised to guide during their time at the school.

lord only knows what substances these guys have put into their bodies during their lifetimes, but they refuse to do this because someone told them they had to.....and to people like you they are heroes. i cannot wait for the lifetime movie about this

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Really? What information do you have? Here is the only quote I've found from the coach, " While I have made my own decision, I respect that every individual - including coaches, staff and student-athletes - can make his or her own decision regarding the Covid-19 vaccine. I will not comment further on my decision," he said earlier this year."

I read he applied for a religious exemption but was denied.

If you really don't care whether people get vaccinated or not, you would support him. People shouldn't be forced to be vaccinated for this.

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he was not forced to vaccinate. he was told he could no longer work at his current job if he did not. there is a difference. he chose unemployment. such a hero

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Lol. Semantic weak sauce.

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if he was forced to get the shot he would have had the shot by now. because you know....he was forced....he does not have the shot so no one forced him. not sure why that is hard to understand.

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Oh I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying it's semantic stupidity. He wasn't forced to!!! He was just fired because he wouldn't. Zzzzzzzz.

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He was fired because he could not fulfill his duties as a state employee.

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Thought he quit?

His duties don't include vaccinations. Perhaps you have some information about his job contract that includes vaccinations that I'm unaware of? As somebody that supposedly doesn't care if people get vaccinated or not, pretty crazy you think it's someone's "duty" to be vaccinated.

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FLWolf said:

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I appreciate the mods letting it go-I really find it helpful to see other educated people's views. I am pretty opened minded about the subject because it is such a moving target. Hell, our leaders (both sides) have changed the rules through out the past 20 months.

Couple of observation:
1. I am shocked that so many people are open to getting their 4-6 year olds the shot so quickly without even asking the question why is there a delay. What are they looking at that it may not be safe for a developing child. Healthy kids are virtually at no risk at all as less than 500 under 12 YOs have died from COVID, and we have no idea how many of those under 500 have underlying conditions. I assume that the news just scares the **** out people as they love to show stories of a 10 YO who has died but you never hear the whole thing. I have two healthy teenagers and I have zero fear as I believe I am following the science. I will definitely do more research when it gets approved but I am not going to be the first in line.

2. People that have such absolute views on either side should keep the door open on either side. This thing could go away or develop more deadly variants in the future. If you develop such strong opinions now, it may prevent you from looking threw a different lens as variables change.

Stay safe and go Pack

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