Exactly my point. 3-8 for 3 seasons, gone.TheStorm said:Who was out Athletic Director when Tom Reed was here for three (3) seasons?Pacfanweb said:
Willis Casey would have fired Doeren after his first season.
I think a completely uncompetitive 0-fer season wouldn't get a second chance. Certainly not a 3rd like Reed got.
It was different back then, but the point is, Willis expected to win.
So look at it this way: Kiffin: 3 years, didn't produce, gone. Reed: 3 years, didn't produce, gone. And in the space of a mere 6 years, we then hired the best coach we've ever had, Dick Sheridan.
Took a team that went 3-8 for 3 years straight and immediately won 8 games, back when we actually played somebody.
And unlike Doeren's first year, where his OOC was Richmond, Louisiana Tech, Central Michigan and ECU, Sheridan played Pitt, SC and Western Carolina.
MAF fired MOC after he went 6-6. He had a better ACC record than Doeren does. Actually STILL has 4 more ACC wins than Doeren does with more attempts. But Doeren has 7 extra "gimme" wins due to the 12 game schedule, plus he got to face Larry Fedora instead of Mack Brown at his peak there.
Something needs to change in the philosophy here.