Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
Meh....breathe deeply PG, its Friday night, less than 2 weeks til FB season. Sleep well. Life's too short for you to be so angry all the time.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
Sure thing, hero. Not virtue signaling at all. I totally say it's harmful to my development and cry about it endlessly. Lol. Using your logic about truth, I guess that makes you a POS.
Packchem91 said:Meh....breathe deeply PG, its Friday night, less than 2 weeks til FB season. Sleep well. Life's too short for you to be so angry all the time.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
Sure thing, hero. Not virtue signaling at all. I totally say it's harmful to my development and cry about it endlessly. Lol. Using your logic about truth, I guess that makes you a POS.
That is exactly what I plan to do as well grad. And I doubt anybody even said anything to you either, did they?packgrad said:
So, Durham has a mask mandate and I went to dinner tonight without a mask. The restaurant had a sign saying masks required , but I didn't wear one. I was still able to breathe, I walked to the table without getting light headed. I doubt I prevented any Covid spread tonight but I operated like I normally would, spent money that I wanted to, and made my own decisions, so it was alright!!
*** it wasn't weird walking to my seat maskless.
Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
TheStorm said:That is exactly what I plan to do as well grad. And I doubt anybody even said anything to you either, did they?packgrad said:
So, Durham has a mask mandate and I went to dinner tonight without a mask. The restaurant had a sign saying masks required , but I didn't wear one. I was still able to breathe, I walked to the table without getting light headed. I doubt I prevented any Covid spread tonight but I operated like I normally would, spent money that I wanted to, and made my own decisions, so it was alright!!
*** it wasn't weird walking to my seat maskless.
packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Meh....breathe deeply PG, its Friday night, less than 2 weeks til FB season. Sleep well. Life's too short for you to be so angry all the time.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
Sure thing, hero. Not virtue signaling at all. I totally say it's harmful to my development and cry about it endlessly. Lol. Using your logic about truth, I guess that makes you a POS.
I'm great packchem. Keep trying to paint a pic with no paint. Sleep well.
That's because they did it on purpose so when the numbers start noticeably subsiding that they can credit it to the mandates. It's completely orchestrated. When I posted a couple of days ago that it feels like a complete setup, that's what I was alluding to.Wayland said:
Mandates continue to empower zero-COVID fanatics who despite almost 2 years worth of data still want to keep schools closed. No school should be closed, COVID or not. And it is sad the people fail to see how much damage has been done to children across the country because a bunch of privileged brainwashed Karens are inconvenienced by carpool.
By over-exaggerating the effects of NPIs instead of allowing for nuance and proper science, it allows for these things to become rituals and talismans (a cult with no actual positive impact to public health). Blindly applying rules instead of trying for targeted effectiveness where impact may be realized.
It allows them also to become weapons of agenda. Blackmailing for policy through mandate.
I understand there are a healthy amount of people in the middle and I hate at times how this makes me sound.
But being an apolitical rational minded individual, I am done with the anti-science 'The Science' and the lack of nuance in policy. And, we are well beyond the point where we need to enact measures because of hypothetical 'maybes'
Public heath continues to foster the 'extremism' on both sides by failing to be straight up truthful and forward. Allow for nuance and imperfection instead of continuing to overpromise and gloss over anything potentially counter narrative.
Just look how out of touch public health is with these again NEW (and still completely useless) mask mandates. They waited until just AFTER the peak in cases to put in the mandates. They believe in them SOOOOOO much, they are going to wait until this wave is as bad as it is going to get AND THEN do something. The complete disconnect of even if you believe these things work that this would be an effective policy implementation is MIND BLOWING.
And if someone really can't see how bat **** crazy people have become over not particularly effective measures, I don't know what I can do for them.
<morning rant off>
bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
I never said it was the same as shutting businesses.Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
All of these studies prove that masking, at best, is no parachute
— Vinay Prasad, MD MPH 🎙️📷 (@VPrasadMDMPH) August 21, 2021
If you want to burn political capital on this issue above all else (vaccinating teachers, perhaps), and if you want to mask 2 year olds into year 2, generate some real data or stop acting so arrogant.
Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Fair question....look, I think mask mandates are silly, other than in particular environments like an airplane. Enacting them, then allowing maskless in churches is even more silly, considering I'm much more tightly packed at my church than I am at Target or HT or a restaurant. I choose to comply because in my mind, it is a respect thing, and if my wearing a mask somehow prevents one person from being impacted, thats a win to me. (and, it causes me no REAL discomfort)Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Awwww, now for a guy who whines a whole lot about people putting words in his mouth.....don't you have another restaurant that won't challegne you about not wearing your mask to stomp vaccinated and angrily thru?packgrad said:Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Didn't you hear? It's the energy "whining" about mask mandates instead of convincing unvaccinated people to get vaccinated that's the problem. It would be mostly a non event if people weren't "whining" about mask mandates.
So stupid.
Packchem91 said:Awwww, now for a guy who whines a whole lot about people putting words in his mouth.....don't you have another restaurant that won't challegne you about not wearing your mask to stomp vaccinated and angrily thru?packgrad said:Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Didn't you hear? It's the energy "whining" about mask mandates instead of convincing unvaccinated people to get vaccinated that's the problem. It would be mostly a non event if people weren't "whining" about mask mandates.
So stupid.
#irony.packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Awwww, now for a guy who whines a whole lot about people putting words in his mouth.....don't you have another restaurant that won't challegne you about not wearing your mask to stomp vaccinated and angrily thru?packgrad said:Wayland said:So why spend any energy at all on ineffective mask mandates which will further alienate some of the populace you are trying to reach instead of spending energy on vaccinations?Packchem91 said:Mormad said:Packchem91 said:Requiring masks at outdoor events in LA -- however silly -- is not the same as shutting businesses.bgr3 said:Yeah great, but it won't matter because the precedent has already been set if someone somewhere comes up with a scary-sounding "study." That's why it was important to fight lockdowns and "essential business" designations last year.Packchem91 said:bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Well why didn't they do that all summer then? When baseball, soccer and basketball tournaments were going on all over the country? Why did they ever remove them last spring to begin with?
Maybe because things changed?
Look, the masking just doesn't bother me. Now, to your point, if they start making things close. Shutting stuff down or enforcing policies that make games go away, etcI'd be right there with you screaming about over-extending.
Just like all of these policies, they start in the blue-est areas and spread to slightly less blue areas once someone enacts them, regardless of community spread or any pretense of science. It's politics, always has been.
Already happening in California.
Edit: Oh yeah, the federal mask mandate ended in the first place because the Biden administration was having a bad week of news cycles, not due to any objective metric.
Look, last week, we had people here scared Cooper was going to shut down HS football and make us wear masks to NC State games. That didn't happen.
And I just don' see it as likely....at some point, this current wave will burn itself out, just because there arent enough unvaccinated people to keep spreading. And the next wave will hopefully have even less unvaccinated people to fester in.....
So you're saying the unvaxxed are going to find their immunity one way or the other and finally the greatest political ally of the blues will ironically be less effective and we can stop whining about masks?? Sounds great.
Yes. If all the energy spent whining about fighting mask mandates was spent convincing the unvaccinated, this would eventually become a mostly non-event.
What are we atstill 90% hogging the ICUs and interrupting your livelihood are unvaccinated, right?
Mask mandates are divisive and have not shown to have had a significant impact. But instead we are going to kowtow to a new breed of germaphobes who need a security blanket instead of focusing efforts in areas that might actually make a difference.
You already have those people in your corner...
Didn't you hear? It's the energy "whining" about mask mandates instead of convincing unvaccinated people to get vaccinated that's the problem. It would be mostly a non event if people weren't "whining" about mask mandates.
So stupid.
No.
Do you think you will get off the message board long enough today to go out in public wearing a mask so that you can run back to the message board bragging about wearing one? But it won't be virtue signaling of course.
And they'll do it right after I buy no-refund tickets.bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
Are the 1965 model seats 16" or 18" wide?Oldsouljer said:And they'll do it right after I buy no-refund tickets.bgr3 said:Packchem91 said:I'd call it mocking those like you who think its harmful to their development and cry about it endlessly like someone took away their livelihoods with it. Hey, at least you can still make it thru an NC State game now!packgrad said:Packchem91 said:Nahhh, virtue signaling is what the guys standing behind Biden today did. Or Luke Decock, who still has his twitter account with his mask on, lol. Telling you and 20 other guys who've already made up their minds on a private board is more having fun, than anything.packgrad said:
Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.
Alas, life goes on.
Hahahaha. Bragging about going out to eat with a mask is TOTALLY not virtue signaling. You do you. Lol.
The petty tyrants will try to force masks back on outdoor events here eventually, it's just a matter of time.
