packgrad said:

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statefan91 said:

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packgrad said:

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statefan91 said:

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Maybe they are getting the protected better protected because the unvaccinated don't have any intention of getting protected?

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That sounds like more "science".

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers-covid-19-booster-shot-improves-immunity-israeli-study-suggests-11629308427

I don't know why you are putting science in quotes. It has been found in other studies that a booster shot helps increase protection from the way they are measuring it. Do you think Israel is not following their science?

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I think saying someone that is 99+% protected from a negative outcome with a vaccine being "better protected" with a booster shot is stupid. But I'm sure some will line up to get it talking about that they do it for humanity and protecting children. While other countries can't even vaccinate their people.

So you believe Israeli studies now? How does everyone feel about Alex Berenson now if we believe booster shots are needed after 8 months?

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Here's my question and it is something NCDHHS is not reporting (unlike neighboring VA) - How many of the positive tests were fully vaccinated and how many were partially or not vaccinated? If they are fully vaccinated cases, I am not really concerned from a potential hospitalization impact. The not vaccinated and partially vaccinated cases would be more interesting to know.

Since I continue to see a declining percentage for the percent of active cases that are hospitalized, it could mean:

A) We are seeing a higher number of positive cases from the fully vaccinated and these fully vaccinated people are less likely to be hospitalized
B) We are seeing a decline in the overall severity of the disease. While it may be more infectious, it might not be more severe.

Knowing the number of cases among the fully and partially vaccinated would help address my two points.

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

---

Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

---

Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

---

Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Packchem91 said:

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

---

Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

---

Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

---

Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

---

Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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I have to admit that I'm not an expert on how they handle Hispanic "ethnicity" in regard to "race", but I my "best guess" (and that's all it is here) would be that is would fall into "other race", a portion of "Black" (but not African-American) and a portion of "White"?

And before anybody here gets all up in angst over the question, I'm admitting in advance that I don't know how that works, but I'm curious to learn from others how that works so that I can better understand those numbers.

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packgrad said:

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

---

Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

---

Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

---

Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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I have to admit that I'm not an expert on how they handle Hispanic "ethnicity" in regard to "race", but I my "best guess" (and that's all it is here) would be that is would fall into "other race", a portion of "Black" (but not African-American) and a portion of "White"?

And before anybody here gets all up in angst over the question, I'm admitting in advance that I don't know how that works, but I'm curious to learn from others how that works so that I can better understand those numbers.

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They fall into white and black.

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

---

My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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I have to admit that I'm not an expert on how they handle Hispanic "ethnicity" in regard to "race", but I my "best guess" (and that's all it is here) would be that is would fall into "other race", a portion of "Black" (but not African-American) and a portion of "White"?

And before anybody here gets all up in angst over the question, I'm admitting in advance that I don't know how that works, but I'm curious to learn from others how that works so that I can better understand those numbers.

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Wayland said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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I have to admit that I'm not an expert on how they handle Hispanic "ethnicity" in regard to "race", but I my "best guess" (and that's all it is here) would be that is would fall into "other race", a portion of "Black" (but not African-American) and a portion of "White"?

And before anybody here gets all up in angst over the question, I'm admitting in advance that I don't know how that works, but I'm curious to learn from others how that works so that I can better understand those numbers.

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Haaa.... I have a Hispanic daughter and I'm not sure I fully know how the race/ethnic lines fall when they do these reports.

I think that race is either black or white (or Asian or American Indian), but then ethnicity is either Hispanic or Non. I saw some chart that showed "White - non Hispanic" and "Black - non Hispanic" and the "Hispanic", so I assume folks of Hispanic descent may consider themselves either Black or White?

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Packchem91 said:

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Wayland said:

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Packchem91 said:

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TheStorm said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Do they break down the new cases by race or ethnicity by chance anywhere?

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Yes they do, both at the NC level and by each county. Here's a link to the Case Demographics page.

NCDHHS Covid-19 Case Demographics

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Now compared to the state's 2021 population demographics:

North Carolina Demographics

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of North Carolina was:

• White: 68.68%
• Black or African American: 21.44%
• Other race: 3.09%
• Asian: 2.85%
• Two or more races: 2.66%
• Native American: 1.21%
• Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.07%

Nothing earth shattering except that the race that gets most of the blame directed at them, somehow has the second best statistics (only to Asian Americans) as compared to the same percentages in the link that Davie provided...

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yeah thanks for pulling that....i had started to look at that and got distracted. I think if you did it by ethnicity, it would be even more telling. I think Hispanic/Latino cases far outweigh their % of the population.

This is not an incrimination of them, but I suspect it rings true in many southern states that have had huge populations settle here over the last couple decades. Tend to be poorer, likely not as vaccinated, and live in the multi-generational, large capacity homes that result in quick spread when it does hit them.

but.....i don't think that is the common theme of what the media necessarily tells us

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I think those numbers are blending Hispanic in. I believe the state's Hispanic population accounts for around 10% of the total state population.

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Right, like 9.8% Hispanic....but 19% of the cases are Hispanic?

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I have to admit that I'm not an expert on how they handle Hispanic "ethnicity" in regard to "race", but I my "best guess" (and that's all it is here) would be that is would fall into "other race", a portion of "Black" (but not African-American) and a portion of "White"?

And before anybody here gets all up in angst over the question, I'm admitting in advance that I don't know how that works, but I'm curious to learn from others how that works so that I can better understand those numbers.

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Haaa.... I have a Hispanic daughter and I'm not sure I fully know how the race/ethnic lines fall when they do these reports.

I think that race is either black or white (or Asian or American Indian), but then ethnicity is either Hispanic or Non. I saw some chart that showed "White - non Hispanic" and "Black - non Hispanic" and the "Hispanic", so I assume folks of Hispanic descent may consider themselves either Black or White?

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I assume your daughter is a US citizen as are many of Hispanic descent. I have to wonder how many of these cases are among those whom aren't citizens. Especially as Biden isn't saying where they're transporting all these border crossers.

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Wayland said:

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Wayland said:

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statefan91 said:

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I saw we were at ~7k cases listed today, any idea if this is a dump of backlog as well or if it's sign of an increase?

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My gut says institutional testing or focused outbreaks.

Wake is a big contributor. This weekend Wake had fewer cases than last weekend, but then BAM massive cases out of Wake on Monday/Tuesday collection.

Last Monday was the reported case backlog... so let's ignore it and take just the Tue->Thursday reporting this week.

We have a net increase in cases of just under 1300 for this Tue->Thurs compared to last Tue->Thurs.


Wake is the biggest culprit... and like I said actually had FEWER weekend cases.

Change in reported cases by DHHS (8/17-8/19) - (8/10-8/12)

Wake 388 (<- with basically all coming from Monday/Tuesday specimen collections)

Counties with ~100 case increase

Alamance 88
Buncombe 102
Forsyth 99
Guilford 105
Onslow 108
Robeson 105
Rowan 136

Now, 27 counties actually reported DECREASES led by Meck with -125. Most of the counties did not have a significant change.

This is the EXACT time last year that we saw the increase in cases from the back to school/university testing. This year it just happens to coincide with our case peak, so it is masking or extending the plateau.

I still think the wave is in decline, but focused testing efforts are picking up cases. Pray that will be seen in the hospitalizations soon.

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Looks like Meck County's weekly update was backing up a little what I saw in the DHHS data and the cases decreasing this week.

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Wearing a mask in line for the fountain that thousands of people put their mouths into

Just Carolina things https://t.co/roqRTHOgVR

— Barstool Pack (@BarstoolPack) August 19, 2021

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The 1984 Bail Reform Act added a new ground for denying bail, danger to the community. Pretrial release could be denied if the court found that there was no combination of conditions that could assure the safety of any person or the community at large if the person were released. This was controversial because it theoretically undermines the presumption of innocence: If a person is detained because the allegations against him show a propensity to commit (particularly) violent crimes and/or to intimidate witnesses or jurors, it implies that the court has concluded that the allegations are true, even though they have not yet been proved beyond a reasonable doubt at trial.

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Judge Jed Rakoff, however, concludes that "danger to the community" includes lawful behavior specifically, refusing to be vaccinated against COVID-19 that is utterly unrelated to the crime being prosecuted (or, indeed, to any criminal behavior in which the accused may ever have engaged).

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Ahhhhh, surprise. He's still virtue signaling.

Alas, life goes on.

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