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RunsWithWolves26
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Little Christmas Eve update on grandma. I rode with my dad today to go see her. He didn't tell her I was coming so it would be a surprise. When she saw us walking down the walkway, she stood up out of her wheelchair and just started waving and blowing kisses. She was so happy just to see us. We talked to her on the phone through the window for about 45 mins. She sounded great. No stuffyness, no runny nose, no congestion, no fever, nothing. She honestly looked and sounded better then she has this entire time. Today is day 10 since she tested positive and she is still asymptomatic. Fingers crossed that continues and she can come back home soon. Lord knows we miss her being here with us just as much as she misses being here with us. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes. Hopefully the good news continues with her. Grandma says hello, thank you, she loves you(cause that woman loves everybody!) and Merry Christmas.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Little Christmas Eve update on grandma. I rode with my dad today to go see her. He didn't tell her I was coming so it would be a surprise. When she saw us walking down the walkway, she stood up out of her wheelchair and just started waving and blowing kisses. She was so happy just to see us. We talked to her on the phone through the window for about 45 mins. She sounded great. No stuffyness, no runny nose, no congestion, no fever, nothing. She honestly looked and sounded better then she has this entire time. Today is day 10 since she tested positive and she is still asymptomatic. Fingers crossed that continues and she can come back home soon. Lord knows we miss her being here with us just as much as she misses being here with us. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes. Hopefully the good news continues with her. Grandma says hello, thank you, she loves you(cause that woman loves everybody!) and Merry Christmas.
Best Christmas Present ever!
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TheStorm said:

RunsWithWolves26 said:

Little Christmas Eve update on grandma. I rode with my dad today to go see her. He didn't tell her I was coming so it would be a surprise. When she saw us walking down the walkway, she stood up out of her wheelchair and just started waving and blowing kisses. She was so happy just to see us. We talked to her on the phone through the window for about 45 mins. She sounded great. No stuffyness, no runny nose, no congestion, no fever, nothing. She honestly looked and sounded better then she has this entire time. Today is day 10 since she tested positive and she is still asymptomatic. Fingers crossed that continues and she can come back home soon. Lord knows we miss her being here with us just as much as she misses being here with us. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes. Hopefully the good news continues with her. Grandma says hello, thank you, she loves you(cause that woman loves everybody!) and Merry Christmas.
Best Christmas Present ever!

That's awesome RWW. A very merry Christmas present for your family!!
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Little Christmas Eve update on grandma. I rode with my dad today to go see her. He didn't tell her I was coming so it would be a surprise. When she saw us walking down the walkway, she stood up out of her wheelchair and just started waving and blowing kisses. She was so happy just to see us. We talked to her on the phone through the window for about 45 mins. She sounded great. No stuffyness, no runny nose, no congestion, no fever, nothing. She honestly looked and sounded better then she has this entire time. Today is day 10 since she tested positive and she is still asymptomatic. Fingers crossed that continues and she can come back home soon. Lord knows we miss her being here with us just as much as she misses being here with us. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes. Hopefully the good news continues with her. Grandma says hello, thank you, she loves you(cause that woman loves everybody!) and Merry Christmas.
This is wonderful news. Merry Christmas to you, your grandmother, and your entire family.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Little Christmas Eve update on grandma. I rode with my dad today to go see her. He didn't tell her I was coming so it would be a surprise. When she saw us walking down the walkway, she stood up out of her wheelchair and just started waving and blowing kisses. She was so happy just to see us. We talked to her on the phone through the window for about 45 mins. She sounded great. No stuffyness, no runny nose, no congestion, no fever, nothing. She honestly looked and sounded better then she has this entire time. Today is day 10 since she tested positive and she is still asymptomatic. Fingers crossed that continues and she can come back home soon. Lord knows we miss her being here with us just as much as she misses being here with us. Thanks again for all the prayers and well wishes. Hopefully the good news continues with her. Grandma says hello, thank you, she loves you(cause that woman loves everybody!) and Merry Christmas.

Fantastic news!
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Outstanding! The best kind of merry Christmas!
RunsWithWolves26
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Grandma says MERRY CHRISTMAS. Talked to her again today and she sounded great. My brother went to see her and said she sounded and looked great. That woman is a fighter.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Grandma says MERRY CHRISTMAS. Talked to her again today and she sounded great. My brother went to see her and said she sounded and looked great. That woman is a fighter.

That's the update I came here hoping to see
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Grandma says MERRY CHRISTMAS. Talked to her again today and she sounded great. My brother went to see her and said she sounded and looked great. That woman is a fighter.
That's fantastic news
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Grandma says MERRY CHRISTMAS. Talked to her again today and she sounded great. My brother went to see her and said she sounded and looked great. That woman is a fighter.
And Merry Christmas to your grandma from another grandma!
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Just received the first dose of vaccine.
PackMom
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Mormad said:

Just received the first dose of vaccine.
Which one? Pfizer?
Mormad
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Yes ma'am
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Mormad said:

Yes ma'am
Best of luck for no (or minimal) side effects!
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3,362 deaths in US on Dec. 24

Worldomenter COVID-19 Coronavirus Pandemic

CA had ~ the same number of cases in the last 6 weeks as it had when it had the first case to 6 weeks ago.

California becomes first state to surpass 2 million coronavirus cases

'It's So Much Worse Than Before.' Dread And Despair Haunt Nurses Inside LA's ICUs

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It looks like California needs tighter restrictions.
Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
The Gatekeeper.
Homer Dumbarse.
StateFan2001 will probably respond to this because he doesn't understand how ignore works.
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Former Pfizer VP says that heard immunity has been reached and there is no reason to vaccinate:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over

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Former Pfizer VP: 'No need for vaccines,' 'the pandemic is effectively over'

November 23, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) While Pfizer pharmaceutical made headlines announcing the imminent release of their COVID-19 vaccine, to much fanfare, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist for the company has flatly rejected the need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.
In a recent article, Dr. Michael Yeadon, who "spent over 30 years leading new [allergy and respiratory] medicines research in some of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies," and retired from Pfizer with "the most senior research position in this field," wrote:
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There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I've never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren't at risk from a disease. You also don't set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn't been extensively tested on human subjects.
[...]

Since it is demonstrable that "around 30% of the population had prior immunity," and if one includes some young children who are "resistant," 40%, and while considering that the infection rate is "somewhere [in] the mid-20s to low-30s per cent," this means that around 65 to 72% of the population currently has immunity to COVID-19.

And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, "that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease," and thus the virus "wanes and disappears."

Therefore, Yeadon concludes, "the pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life."
Mormad
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GuerrillaPack said:

For Pfizer VP says that heard immunity has been reached and there is no reason to vaccinate:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over

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Former Pfizer VP: 'No need for vaccines,' 'the pandemic is effectively over'

November 23, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) While Pfizer pharmaceutical made headlines announcing the imminent release of their COVID-19 vaccine, to much fanfare, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist for the company has flatly rejected the need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.
In a recent article, Dr. Michael Yeadon, who "spent over 30 years leading new [allergy and respiratory] medicines research in some of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies," and retired from Pfizer with "the most senior research position in this field," wrote:
Quote:

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I've never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren't at risk from a disease. You also don't set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn't been extensively tested on human subjects.
[...]

Since it is demonstrable that "around 30% of the population had prior immunity," and if one includes some young children who are "resistant," 40%, and while considering that the infection rate is "somewhere [in] the mid-20s to low-30s per cent," this means that around 65 to 72% of the population currently has immunity to COVID-19.

And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, "that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease," and thus the virus "wanes and disappears."

Therefore, Yeadon concludes, "the pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life."



Well, i guess i just wasted my fcking time, huh?
Pacfanweb
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Dude who has not worked for Pfizer in 9 years, and the article is from October. I think changes might have occurred since then, right?

What a bunch of irresponsible, bogus BS.
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I guess me getting vaccinated for polo, mumps and such was a waste of time.
I asked a ref if he could give me a technical foul for thinking bad things about him. He said, of course not. I said, well, I think you stink. And he gave me a technical. You can't trust em. Jim Valvano.

Mormad
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Glasswolf said:

I guess me getting vaccinated for polo, mumps and such was a waste of time.


According to some, I reckon
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PackMom said:

Mormad said:

Yes ma'am
Best of luck for no (or minimal) side effects!

Yeah Godspeed bro. Wish all y'all first liners could have a one-doser but beggars can't be choosers.

Hope you've got no side effects!
Mormad
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My wife and I both got it since she's also involved in patient care. We're both pretty sore at the injection site, but otherwise feeling fine.
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Mormad said:

My wife and I both got it since she's also involved in patient care. We're both pretty sore at the injection site, but otherwise feeling fine.


Amazing - glad to hear you've been able to get it
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GuerrillaPack said:

Former Pfizer VP says that heard immunity has been reached and there is no reason to vaccinate:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/former-pfizer-vp-no-need-for-vaccines-the-pandemic-is-effectively-over

Quote:

Former Pfizer VP: 'No need for vaccines,' 'the pandemic is effectively over'

November 23, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) While Pfizer pharmaceutical made headlines announcing the imminent release of their COVID-19 vaccine, to much fanfare, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist for the company has flatly rejected the need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.
In a recent article, Dr. Michael Yeadon, who "spent over 30 years leading new [allergy and respiratory] medicines research in some of the world's largest pharmaceutical companies," and retired from Pfizer with "the most senior research position in this field," wrote:
Quote:

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I've never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren't at risk from a disease. You also don't set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn't been extensively tested on human subjects.
[...]

Since it is demonstrable that "around 30% of the population had prior immunity," and if one includes some young children who are "resistant," 40%, and while considering that the infection rate is "somewhere [in] the mid-20s to low-30s per cent," this means that around 65 to 72% of the population currently has immunity to COVID-19.

And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, "that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease," and thus the virus "wanes and disappears."

Therefore, Yeadon concludes, "the pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life."

I thought we were following the money
I am just here for the conspiracy theories
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GuerrillaPack said:

Follow this guy on YouTube to find out what's really going on with this Rona fraud:


Cell tower fraud and NASA fraud.
Great source-for you.
I am just here for the conspiracy theories
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GuerrillaPack said:

Pacfanweb said:

LOL, that guy is a nobody. The next thing he posts that is the truth will be the first.


I doubt you've ever listened to anything he's ever said. How can you judge what he says if you've never even listened to him?

And he's hardly a "nobody". That's just his backup channel.

He has over 120,000 subscribers on his main channel:

https://youtube.com/c/TheFullertonInformer
So does Justin Beeber(sp)
Since subscribers is the gold standard, how many followers or subscribers do you have, GP?
I am just here for the conspiracy theories
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Since it is demonstrable that "around 30% of the population had prior immunity," and if one includes some young children who are "resistant," 40%, and while considering that the infection rate is "somewhere [in] the mid-20s to low-30s per cent," this means that around 65 to 72% of the population currently has immunity to COVID-19.



I'm not trusting anybody as a great mind on the subject if he/she believes THAT'S how the math works.
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GuerrillaPack
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When they claim a vaccine is "98%" effective or whatever, that doesn't mean that "98%" of the people taking the vaccine are going to be immune from a virus. They measure and claim "effectiveness" by some other standards, including if the vaccine causes a person to produce anti-bodies. But that doesn't mean that the person is now immune from the disease. A person will produce anti-bodies whenever any number of toxins are introduced into their body, including the many harmful substances in vaccines (including aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, etc).

They have hardly even tested this so-called "vaccine". It was rushed to the market, and not properly tested. It is now causing many people to have severe adverse reactions. Several of the guinea pigs who took these vaccines died during the rushed testing phase.
Mormad
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GuerrillaPack said:

When they claim a vaccine is "98%" effective or whatever, that doesn't mean that "98%" of the people taking the vaccine are going to be immune from a virus. They measure and claim "effectiveness" by some other standards, including if the vaccine causes a person to produce anti-bodies. But that doesn't mean that the person is now immune from the disease. A person will produce anti-bodies whenever any number of toxins are introduced into their body, including the many harmful substances in vaccines (including aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, etc).

They have hardly even tested this so-called "vaccine". It was rushed to the market, and not properly tested. It is now causing many people to have severe adverse reactions. Several of the guinea pigs who took these vaccines died during the rushed testing phase.


Ok. Let's see what you know about what you've pointed out.

To what standards are they claiming effectiveness?

What exact antibodies are you claiming those receiving the vaccine are producing? How do antibodies then work?

Since you claim the vaccine isn't even offering immunity "from disease," is there a difference between preventing infection and preventing disease? Is that even important?

How could they have done better to "properly test" these vaccines? What effect may this have had?

What severe adverse reactions have been reported, and how many have suffered from such? Is this out of proportion to such reactions seen during the use of other vaccinations and/or medications? Is this a higher rate of complications than the disease itself?

How many guinea pigs have died from the vaccine thus far? How many have died during the trials? How and why would they die?
RunsWithWolves26
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Sorry to interrupt the thread for a moment but grandma says hey y'all. She is still doing well and we are hoping she gets to come home soon. Still asymptomatic and hasn't run a fever yet. Thanks for the prayers.
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RunsWithWolves26 said:

Sorry to interrupt the thread for a moment but grandma says hey y'all. She is still doing well and we are hoping she gets to come home soon. Still asymptomatic and hasn't run a fever yet. Thanks for the prayers.
Definitely not an interruption! I was looking for an update on your grandma, and so glad to hear she's doing well. Have they said what has to happen before she can go home?
statefan91
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Just got a positive result via a CVS test I took on Thursday - feel fine but sense of smell is diminished.
RunsWithWolves26
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statefan91 said:

Just got a positive result via a CVS test I took on Thursday - feel fine but sense of smell is diminished.


Hate to hear that brother. Please keep us updated!
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