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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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Mormad said:

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I certainly think some of the"rules" re: mask wearing make very little sense.

I do think the severity of disease seems to be less in general. Nobody who matters has ever professed masks would wipe out the disease. They probably slow the spread (there is evidence in the literature) and they probably lessen the severity of disease by decreasing the inoculum when you're exposed.

Covid positive patient in the ED this weekend: wouldn't keep his mask on and finally tried to hide it from the staff instead of wear it. That kind of idiocy makes me a little salty.

There are plenty of people trying to make a reasonable effort to wear masks, but we all get away from them at times and that's enough for this virus to virus.

I'm sure Alex Berenson would not agree, but I'll once again ask these questions because we're all big boys and obviously smart enough to be pack fans and can use our own common sense:

1: would you rather take a sneeze in the face from someone with covid when you're both masked or unmasked?
2. If you get covid, will you mask around those you love?
3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?
4. Does inoculum size matter in virology? If so, and those droplets in your wet mask contain virus that would have otherwise inoculated your buddy with even more viral load, is there a chance he'll get a milder disease or even fend off the disease with his immune system? Not saying he would be completely shielded from disease and may still test positive, but if the inoculum he sucks in has less viral load doesn't it seem to make sense he has a better chance of mild to no disease?

I've read the studies, I've studied virology long ago, I've talked to colleagues, I've searched the available evidence. But none of it matters when it comes right down to it, because i know the answers to these questions and that common sense guides my actions, governor be damned.

If you simply don't believe masks matter, then I'm sure they are looking for volunteers to be in the unmasked arm of the randomized study taking coughs/sneezes in the face from those with verified active covid.

Carry on, fellas.

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TheStorm said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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Sounds like you only see what you want to see then, as my experience has been the complete opposite.

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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TheStorm said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Even if when you are sitting in your house by yourself... yeah, we get it... and yeah, more people are wearing masks than ever and it has done nothing to slow the spread of the virus.

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Pacfanweb said:

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TheStorm said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Even if when you are sitting in your house by yourself... yeah, we get it... and yeah, more people are wearing masks than ever and it has done nothing to slow the spread of the virus.

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Yes but the virus has been are over here for nearly a year now. So just simply saying more people are wearing masks but it is still spreading does not remotely tell the whole story.
This many people wearing masks 8 months ago would have greatly slowed it down.

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TheStorm said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Even if when you are sitting in your house by yourself... yeah, we get it... and yeah, more people are wearing masks than ever and it has done nothing to slow the spread of the virus.

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packgrad said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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TheStorm said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Even if when you are sitting in your house by yourself... yeah, we get it... and yeah, more people are wearing masks than ever and it has done nothing to slow the spread of the virus.

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Yes but the virus has been are over here for nearly a year now. So just simply saying more people are wearing masks but it is still spreading does not remotely tell the whole story.
This many people wearing masks 8 months ago would have greatly slowed it down.

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Why? It would still be here though, and more people would probably be getting it now.

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Pacfanweb said:

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packgrad said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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TheStorm said:

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Pacfanweb said:

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redsteel33 said:

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packgrad said:

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redsteel33 said:

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3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?


Every person I have seen sneeze or cough has lifted their mask prior. Not some - every single one.

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I sneezed into my elbow/shirt sleeve as instructed by medical professionals, but more specifically, my teacher wife. Immediately wished I had used my hands. Had a stringer. On a black shirt. Fortunately I was almost at my truck.

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Noted. I just said they lifted their mask. I did not comment on elbow, into the open air, etc.

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So you're proving that the mask can't work if people don't use it. If you're going to EVER use one, then when you have to cough or sneeze is THE time to have it on.

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Even if when you are sitting in your house by yourself... yeah, we get it... and yeah, more people are wearing masks than ever and it has done nothing to slow the spread of the virus.

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Yes but the virus has been are over here for nearly a year now. So just simply saying more people are wearing masks but it is still spreading does not remotely tell the whole story.
This many people wearing masks 8 months ago would have greatly slowed it down.

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Why? It would still be here though, and more people would probably be getting it now.

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And even more would be getting it without the mask usage we have now.

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ncsualum05 said:

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Mormad said:

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I certainly think some of the"rules" re: mask wearing make very little sense.

I do think the severity of disease seems to be less in general. Nobody who matters has ever professed masks would wipe out the disease. They probably slow the spread (there is evidence in the literature) and they probably lessen the severity of disease by decreasing the inoculum when you're exposed.

Covid positive patient in the ED this weekend: wouldn't keep his mask on and finally tried to hide it from the staff instead of wear it. That kind of idiocy makes me a little salty.

There are plenty of people trying to make a reasonable effort to wear masks, but we all get away from them at times and that's enough for this virus to virus.

I'm sure Alex Berenson would not agree, but I'll once again ask these questions because we're all big boys and obviously smart enough to be pack fans and can use our own common sense:

1: would you rather take a sneeze in the face from someone with covid when you're both masked or unmasked?
2. If you get covid, will you mask around those you love?
3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?
4. Does inoculum size matter in virology? If so, and those droplets in your wet mask contain virus that would have otherwise inoculated your buddy with even more viral load, is there a chance he'll get a milder disease or even fend off the disease with his immune system? Not saying he would be completely shielded from disease and may still test positive, but if the inoculum he sucks in has less viral load doesn't it seem to make sense he has a better chance of mild to no disease?

I've read the studies, I've studied virology long ago, I've talked to colleagues, I've searched the available evidence. But none of it matters when it comes right down to it, because i know the answers to these questions and that common sense guides my actions, governor be damned.

If you simply don't believe masks matter, then I'm sure they are looking for volunteers to be in the unmasked arm of the randomized study taking coughs/sneezes in the face from those with verified active covid.

Carry on, fellas.

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This is why I asked you. Because I agree with what you're saying and I know you know this stuff. But the mystery remains as to why we are in worse shape now than ever before with the most uniform anti-viral behavior in our societies history. And for the record yes I wear the mask. I also have heard your point about less droplets escaping and someone potentially infected with less viral particles. However I thought this virus was very efficient at replicating itself once in your system. So how does that work from an infectious disease standpoint? Is it the less viral load you ingest/ or that infects you the less likely replication will be possible due to immuno response?

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910wolf said:

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I've heard some rumors circling that the Governor's next order will be a 9:00 PM curfew

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Mormad said:

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I certainly think some of the"rules" re: mask wearing make very little sense.

I do think the severity of disease seems to be less in general. Nobody who matters has ever professed masks would wipe out the disease. They probably slow the spread (there is evidence in the literature) and they probably lessen the severity of disease by decreasing the inoculum when you're exposed.

Covid positive patient in the ED this weekend: wouldn't keep his mask on and finally tried to hide it from the staff instead of wear it. That kind of idiocy makes me a little salty.

There are plenty of people trying to make a reasonable effort to wear masks, but we all get away from them at times and that's enough for this virus to virus.

I'm sure Alex Berenson would not agree, but I'll once again ask these questions because we're all big boys and obviously smart enough to be pack fans and can use our own common sense:

1: would you rather take a sneeze in the face from someone with covid when you're both masked or unmasked?
2. If you get covid, will you mask around those you love?
3. If you have covid, and sneeze in a mask, is the inside of that mask wet? If so, do those droplets contain covid? If so, is that virus that would have been expelled into the air otherwise? If so, are those around you then exposed to less virus?
4. Does inoculum size matter in virology? If so, and those droplets in your wet mask contain virus that would have otherwise inoculated your buddy with even more viral load, is there a chance he'll get a milder disease or even fend off the disease with his immune system? Not saying he would be completely shielded from disease and may still test positive, but if the inoculum he sucks in has less viral load doesn't it seem to make sense he has a better chance of mild to no disease?

I've read the studies, I've studied virology long ago, I've talked to colleagues, I've searched the available evidence. But none of it matters when it comes right down to it, because i know the answers to these questions and that common sense guides my actions, governor be damned.

If you simply don't believe masks matter, then I'm sure they are looking for volunteers to be in the unmasked arm of the randomized study taking coughs/sneezes in the face from those with verified active covid.

Carry on, fellas.

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statefan91 said:

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You guys need to enjoy the nice cool air and run outside.

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statefan91 said:

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You guys need to enjoy the nice cool air and run outside.

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