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Wayland
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Wayland said:

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9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


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1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1
9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.
9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.
Wayland
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Wayland said:

Wayland said:

Quote:

9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1
9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.
9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.
9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%
Packchem91
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Wayland -- thanks as always. For you or Davie, 2 questions:

1) Seems the hospitalizations are actually headed downwards? low 800s even with 90+% reporting? Seems like it was hovering around 900 for a long while

2) Since Mandy made her proclamation about having a great plan for the LTCF, how many in those facilities have died?

ETA...one more...this another case where we can be told we are in the red zone (<1000 cases) despite 3.4% testing?
Wayland
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Packchem91 said:

Wayland -- thanks as always. For you or Davie, 2 questions:

1) Seems the hospitalizations are actually headed downwards? low 800s even with 90+% reporting? Seems like it was hovering around 900 for a long while

2) Since Mandy made her proclamation about having a great plan for the LTCF, how many in those facilities have died?

ETA...one more...this another case where we can be told we are in the red zone (<1000 cases) despite 3.4% testing?
If you have a date, you can look at this chart. I manually track death by setting (reported) each day (there is setting by date of death available).

This is how many deaths were reported by setting in the week ending with the date listed.



Hospitalizations will continue to be tough. Since they include COVID positive patients that are not in for COVID related reasons (pregnancy, etc). As long as COVID remains and active virus and everyone is being tested there will be COVID hospitalizations both from and with. I hope to see ICU numbers decrease since this does represent the most severe of COVID cases.


As long as things continue to trend stable/down with hospitalizations that is very good since with space available, COVID patients will continue to get admitted to some degree with varying degrees of severity.
statefan91
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Packchem91 said:

Wayland -- thanks as always. For you or Davie, 2 questions:

1) Seems the hospitalizations are actually headed downwards? low 800s even with 90+% reporting? Seems like it was hovering around 900 for a long while

2) Since Mandy made her proclamation about having a great plan for the LTCF, how many in those facilities have died?

ETA...one more...this another case where we can be told we are in the red zone (<1000 cases) despite 3.4% testing?
This has info on the thresholds the White House is using:

Daviewolf83
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Staff
With regards to new weekly cases, by my calculations NC should be Yellow in the report for last week (9/13 report). If NC stays below 100 cases reported in a week per 100,000 population, it will not be in the Red condition. For example, in the report for the week of 9/6, NC was Red due to the fact the cases reported for the previous week totaled 11,751 which put NC at 112 per 100,000 population. Last week, NC only reported 8,035 cases, based on the data from NCDHHS, which is why I believe it will move to the Yellow status (should be a score of 77).

It would be nice if NCDHHS would share these reports. They get them from Dr. Birx's task force on a weekly basis. I have links to reports for week of 8/6, 8/23, 8/30, and 9/6. In the 8/30 report, they specifically reference the return of students to universities as a key driver of the increase. The weeks prior to the 8/30 report, NC was Yellow. I appears NC went into the red condition for two weeks and should now be Yellow again.

Mormad
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Our current inpatient census and icu census is down significantly. Only 5 in the unit, only 2 tubed. Inpt census in the 30s
Daviewolf83
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Mormad said:

Our current inpatient census and icu census is down significantly. Only 5 in the unit, only 2 tubed. Inpt census in the 30s
This is very good news. Thanks very much for the insight. I hope the census for ICU continues to stay low, since these are the patients who might have the worst outcomes.

Do you believe improvement in treatment protocols and medicines could be contributing to the reduction in ICU census and more particularly to the reduction in patients who are tubed?
Wayland
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Wayland said:

Wayland said:

Wayland said:

Quote:

9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1
9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.
9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.
9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%
9/14/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
185,781
NC Deaths
3060
Currently Hospitalized
895 <- 92% reporting (was 831 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,634,819


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1587 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
486 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

987 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
2073 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

350 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-8)
Nursing Homes 210 -> 208
Resident Care 101 -> 97
Correctional 37 -> 35
Other 10 -> 10
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845 positive cases over 18711* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18711 but DHHS claims only 13313 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/14
9/13, 9/12(3), 9/11, 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 8/27, 8/22, 8/17

3 DoD previously missing assigned dates.


DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.8%
Mormad
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Daviewolf83 said:

Mormad said:

Our current inpatient census and icu census is down significantly. Only 5 in the unit, only 2 tubed. Inpt census in the 30s
This is very good news. Thanks very much for the insight. I hope the census for ICU continues to stay low, since these are the patients who might have the worst outcomes.

Do you believe improvement in treatment protocols and medicines could be contributing to the reduction in ICU census and more particularly to the reduction in patients who are tubed?


I think it's multifactorial. Certainly, i think we're managing the disease a little better as we learn more, but i also think disease demographics have changed, and in general the population that gets infected is getting less severe disease.
statefan91
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Mormad said:

Daviewolf83 said:

Mormad said:

Our current inpatient census and icu census is down significantly. Only 5 in the unit, only 2 tubed. Inpt census in the 30s
This is very good news. Thanks very much for the insight. I hope the census for ICU continues to stay low, since these are the patients who might have the worst outcomes.

Do you believe improvement in treatment protocols and medicines could be contributing to the reduction in ICU census and more particularly to the reduction in patients who are tubed?


I think it's multifactorial. Certainly, i think we're managing the disease a little better as we learn more, but i also think disease demographics have changed, and in general the population that gets infected is getting less severe disease.
This may be a question that requires more insight than most of us can provide, but my understanding of most viruses is that they infect to live, not to kill the host. Do you think there are more severe strains of it that have killed more but in killing that person may be less replicated, leaving us with milder versions of it?
Wayland
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https://triblive.com/local/regional/federal-judge-rules-gov-wolfs-shutdown-orders-were-unconstitutional/

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U.S. District Judge William S. Stickman IV wrote in his 66-page opinion that even though the actions taken in the spring by Wolf and Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine were laudable, they violated the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th Amendment.
......

Stickman, who was appointed to the bench in 2019, said that "even a vigilant public may let down its guard over its constitutional liberties only to find that liberties, once relinquished, are hard to recoup and that restrictions while expedient in the face of an emergency situation may persist long after immediate danger has passed."
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Wayland said:

https://triblive.com/local/regional/federal-judge-rules-gov-wolfs-shutdown-orders-were-unconstitutional/

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U.S. District Judge William S. Stickman IV wrote in his 66-page opinion that even though the actions taken in the spring by Wolf and Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine were laudable, they violated the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th Amendment.

I have been saying this since March. We tried to be good citizens, but the powers that be used that against us and trampled on our rights.
Being an N. C. State fan builds great character!
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/face-masks-could-giving-people-covid-19-immunity-researchers/?fbclid=IwAR3JYval8CycCfj8ZSyMwB14D6NEsfTxR7k4NbiY4sasv0vkf2xVh_xmCnk

Interesting theory - sorry if repost.
Wayland
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Wayland said:

https://triblive.com/local/regional/federal-judge-rules-gov-wolfs-shutdown-orders-were-unconstitutional/

Quote:

U.S. District Judge William S. Stickman IV wrote in his 66-page opinion that even though the actions taken in the spring by Wolf and Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine were laudable, they violated the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th Amendment.
......

Stickman, who was appointed to the bench in 2019, said that "even a vigilant public may let down its guard over its constitutional liberties only to find that liberties, once relinquished, are hard to recoup and that restrictions while expedient in the face of an emergency situation may persist long after immediate danger has passed."

Here is the actual ruling.

https://www.scribd.com/document/476017344/Judge-Stickman-s-order-in-Butler-County-v-Wolf
Wayland
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Wayland said:

Wayland said:

https://triblive.com/local/regional/federal-judge-rules-gov-wolfs-shutdown-orders-were-unconstitutional/

Quote:

U.S. District Judge William S. Stickman IV wrote in his 66-page opinion that even though the actions taken in the spring by Wolf and Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine were laudable, they violated the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th Amendment.
......

Stickman, who was appointed to the bench in 2019, said that "even a vigilant public may let down its guard over its constitutional liberties only to find that liberties, once relinquished, are hard to recoup and that restrictions while expedient in the face of an emergency situation may persist long after immediate danger has passed."

Here is the actual ruling.

https://www.scribd.com/document/476017344/Judge-Stickman-s-order-in-Butler-County-v-Wolf
Conclusion

The Court closes this Opinion as it began, by recognizing that Defendants actions at issue here were undertaken with the good intention of addressing a public health emergency. But even in an emergency, the authority of government is not unfettered. The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms--in place when times are good but able to be cast aside in times of trouble. There is no question that this Country has faced, and will face emergencies of every sort. But the solution to a national crisis can never be permitted to supersede the commitment to individual liberty that stands as the foundation of the American experiment. The Constitution cannot accept the concept of a "new normal" where the basic liberties of the people can be subordinated to open-ended emergency mitigation measures. Rather, the Constitution sets certain lines that may not be crossed, even in an emergency. Actions taken by Defendants crossed those lines. It is the duty of the Court to declare those actions unconstitutional. Thus, consistent with the reasons set forth above, the Court will enter judgment in favor of Plaintiffs.
Wayland
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Wake working overtime with paper pushing. Added 5 NET deaths today, and based on a quick compare to DHHS, here are the current differences.

Added: 8/8, 8/7, 7/31, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12, 5/13, 4/19
Removed: 7/14, 5/12, 4/21

Nothing like 5 month old death adjustments!
TheStorm
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Wayland said:

Wake working overtime with paper pushing. Added 5 NET deaths today, and based on a quick compare to DHHS, here are the current differences.

Added: 8/8, 8/7, 7/31, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12, 5/13, 4/19
Removed: 7/14, 5/12, 4/21

Nothing like 5 month old death adjustments!
"Pretty soon" their going to have to start counting them twice if they want to keep those numbers up!
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Wayland said:

Wayland said:

Wayland said:

https://triblive.com/local/regional/federal-judge-rules-gov-wolfs-shutdown-orders-were-unconstitutional/

Quote:

U.S. District Judge William S. Stickman IV wrote in his 66-page opinion that even though the actions taken in the spring by Wolf and Health Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine were laudable, they violated the First Amendment right to freedom of assembly, and the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th Amendment.
......

Stickman, who was appointed to the bench in 2019, said that "even a vigilant public may let down its guard over its constitutional liberties only to find that liberties, once relinquished, are hard to recoup and that restrictions while expedient in the face of an emergency situation may persist long after immediate danger has passed."

Here is the actual ruling.

https://www.scribd.com/document/476017344/Judge-Stickman-s-order-in-Butler-County-v-Wolf
Conclusion

The Court closes this Opinion as it began, by recognizing that Defendants actions at issue here were undertaken with the good intention of addressing a public health emergency. But even in an emergency, the authority of government is not unfettered. The liberties protected by the Constitution are not fair-weather freedoms--in place when times are good but able to be cast aside in times of trouble. There is no question that this Country has faced, and will face emergencies of every sort. But the solution to a national crisis can never be permitted to supersede the commitment to individual liberty that stands as the foundation of the American experiment. The Constitution cannot accept the concept of a "new normal" where the basic liberties of the people can be subordinated to open-ended emergency mitigation measures. Rather, the Constitution sets certain lines that may not be crossed, even in an emergency. Actions taken by Defendants crossed those lines. It is the duty of the Court to declare those actions unconstitutional. Thus, consistent with the reasons set forth above, the Court will enter judgment in favor of Plaintiffs.

I like this guy !
FlossyDFlynt
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Presented without comment

TopsailWolf
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Candace Owens said literally the same thing 6 months ago when this all began. And I agree. Always easy to make decisions in hindsight, but After the initial 6-8 weeks when it was evident that hospitals would not be overrun and everybody wasn't going to die it was in the country's best interest to open back up. This is why any candidate that wants to expand federal government oversight, including "affordable" healthcare to all, increase regulations, and increase government spending will never get my vote. Most things the federal government touches are an abject failure, Yet Here's Biden running national slots about national mask mandates. Lol can't make it up.
Wayland
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Presented without comment


The fact that Meck County initially claimed the mistake was a scam just adds to the ever eroding trust of public officials.

A lot of mistakes have been made by public officials in the last 6 months that need to be owned up to.
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Wayland said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Presented without comment


The fact that Meck County initially claimed the mistake was a scam just adds to the ever eroding trust of public officials.

A lot of mistakes have been made by public officials in the last 6 months that need to be owned up to.
I'm sure there's probably been a **** ton of coronavirus cases reported in this state that were not correct... and I personally don't think it is by accident either for whatever that's worth.
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TopsailWolf said:

Candace Owens said literally the same thing 6 months ago when this all began. And I agree. Always easy to make decisions in hindsight, but After the initial 6-8 weeks when it was evident that hospitals would not be overrun and everybody wasn't going to die it was in the country's best interest to open back up. This is why any candidate that wants to expand federal government oversight, including "affordable" healthcare to all, increase regulations, and increase government spending will never get my vote. Most things the federal government touches are an abject failure, Yet Here's Biden running national slots about national mask mandates. Lol can't make it up.
The fact that the shutdowns were supposed to be just to ensure hospitals were not overrun has been a discussion point that has come up again recently. The goalposts have been moved so many times that most people have forgotten that was the stated purpose.

It goes back to Butler County v. Wolf and the fact that people all around the country need to seize the opportunity to use that judgment to take power back away from authoritarian governors.

And I am not arguing for ZERO mitigation efforts, I am just saying governors have gone too far in issuing unilateral orders.
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Wayland said:

TopsailWolf said:

Candace Owens said literally the same thing 6 months ago when this all began. And I agree. Always easy to make decisions in hindsight, but After the initial 6-8 weeks when it was evident that hospitals would not be overrun and everybody wasn't going to die it was in the country's best interest to open back up. This is why any candidate that wants to expand federal government oversight, including "affordable" healthcare to all, increase regulations, and increase government spending will never get my vote. Most things the federal government touches are an abject failure, Yet Here's Biden running national slots about national mask mandates. Lol can't make it up.
The fact that the shutdowns were supposed to be just to ensure hospitals were not overrun has been a discussion point that has come up again recently. The goalposts have been moved so many times that most people have forgotten that was the stated purpose.

It goes back to Butler County v. Wolf and the fact that people all around the country need to seize the opportunity to use that judgment to take power back away from authoritarian governors.

And I am not arguing for ZERO mitigation efforts, I am just saying governors have gone too far in issuing unilateral orders.
It's going to take years to sort through this mess and uncover just how nefarious some of the intentions were regarding the power grabbing, the loss of freedoms, the manipulation of data, and the constant fear porn message. This has turned into one giant experiment to see how quickly you could bring America to it's knees. Very,very quickly and folds as easy as a cheap suit.
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ncsualum05 said:

Wayland said:

TopsailWolf said:

Candace Owens said literally the same thing 6 months ago when this all began. And I agree. Always easy to make decisions in hindsight, but After the initial 6-8 weeks when it was evident that hospitals would not be overrun and everybody wasn't going to die it was in the country's best interest to open back up. This is why any candidate that wants to expand federal government oversight, including "affordable" healthcare to all, increase regulations, and increase government spending will never get my vote. Most things the federal government touches are an abject failure, Yet Here's Biden running national slots about national mask mandates. Lol can't make it up.
The fact that the shutdowns were supposed to be just to ensure hospitals were not overrun has been a discussion point that has come up again recently. The goalposts have been moved so many times that most people have forgotten that was the stated purpose.

It goes back to Butler County v. Wolf and the fact that people all around the country need to seize the opportunity to use that judgment to take power back away from authoritarian governors.

And I am not arguing for ZERO mitigation efforts, I am just saying governors have gone too far in issuing unilateral orders.
It's going to take years to sort through this mess and uncover just how nefarious some of the intentions were regarding the power grabbing, the loss of freedoms, the manipulation of data, and the constant fear porn message. This has turned into one giant experiment to see how quickly you could bring America to it's knees. Very,very quickly and folds as easy as a cheap suit.
Don't worry....CNN is all over it.
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Wayland said:

TopsailWolf said:

Candace Owens said literally the same thing 6 months ago when this all began. And I agree. Always easy to make decisions in hindsight, but After the initial 6-8 weeks when it was evident that hospitals would not be overrun and everybody wasn't going to die it was in the country's best interest to open back up. This is why any candidate that wants to expand federal government oversight, including "affordable" healthcare to all, increase regulations, and increase government spending will never get my vote. Most things the federal government touches are an abject failure, Yet Here's Biden running national slots about national mask mandates. Lol can't make it up.
The fact that the shutdowns were supposed to be just to ensure hospitals were not overrun has been a discussion point that has come up again recently. The goalposts have been moved so many times that most people have forgotten that was the stated purpose.

It goes back to Butler County v. Wolf and the fact that people all around the country need to seize the opportunity to use that judgment to take power back away from authoritarian governors.

And I am not arguing for ZERO mitigation efforts, I am just saying governors have gone too far in issuing unilateral orders.
The one that most directly affects me is Cooper's limit of 50 people in a 30,000-50,000 seat outdoor stadium. Why can't he allow 1,000 player parents into the stadium? Power and optics. It has nothing at all to do with science and flattening the curve. This weekend, I will miss one of my son's game for the first time - something I have not done since he began playing sports at the age of 4 (I also never missed a band concert or play). The game is being played in a stadium where he has attended games from the time he is born (of course he plays for the visiting team now) and one that is located 25 minutes drive from my house. Due to Cooper's failure to do the right thing, I have to watch my son on play on television.

Last week, Mandy Cohen tried to justify the limits on fans at games by pointing out that NC is in the Red status on Dr. Birx's Coronavirus Task Force's measurement of cases. Based on the total cases for last week (week ending 9/12), NC should be Yellow again, meaning NC was in the Red status for two weeks and a large portion of the increase was driven by the return to school for some of the larger universities in NC. The fact the growth came from the universities is highlighted in the report for 8/30.
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More good news for NC and Mecklenburg County in particular.

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Really great to see. Hope it continues and the Governor opens up more things like allowing limited fans, movie theaters, etc
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I am shocked.................................................. that it took so long to uncover the lies created by Stupor Cooper & his henchwoman!
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9/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
180,754
NC Deaths
2990
Currently Hospitalized
928 <- 90% reporting (was 916 at 86%)
Completed Tests
2,521,839


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1544 Deaths are now Congregate (+13)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

962 Deaths assumed General Population (+16)
2028 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

353 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+9)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 199
Resident Care 101 -> 103
Correctional 43 -> 41
Other 8 -> 10
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1222 positive cases over 31726* new tests. 3.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31726 but DHHS claims only 26277 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/10
9/9(2), 9/8(5), 9/7(9), 9/6(6), 9/5(5), 9/4(4), 9/3, 8/30, 8/28, 7/20

2 missing Dates of Death assigned dates.
1 death removed on 9/1
9/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
182,286
NC Deaths
3023
Currently Hospitalized
938 <- 93% reporting (was 928 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,558,654


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1564 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
484 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+33 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

975 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
2048 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 205
Resident Care 103 -> 105
Correctional 41 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1532 positive cases over 36815* new tests. 4.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 36815 but DHHS claims only 30056 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/11
9/10(10), 9/9(6). 9/8(4). 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/4(2), 9/1, 8/30, 8/26, 8/17(2), 8/6, 8/3, 7/7

2 DoD previously missing assigned dates.
9/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
183,740
NC Deaths
3047
Currently Hospitalized
870 <- 95% reporting (was 938 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,581,132


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1578 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

984 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
2063 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

357 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 205 -> 209
Resident Care 105 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1454 positive cases over 22478* new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22478 but DHHS claims only 17717 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/12
9/11(2), 9/10(7), 9/9(3), 9/8, 9/7(2), 9/3(3), 8/30, 8/21

4 deaths added missing DoD.
9/13/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
184,936
NC Deaths
3052
Currently Hospitalized
831 <- 91% reporting (was 870 at 95%)
Completed Tests
2,616,108


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1581 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
485 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

986 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
2066 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 209 -> 210
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 37 -> 37
Other 10 -> 10
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1196 positive cases over 34976* new tests. 3.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 34976 but DHHS claims only 19632 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/13
9/12, 9/11(4)

DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.9%
9/14/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
185,781
NC Deaths
3060
Currently Hospitalized
895 <- 92% reporting (was 831 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,634,819


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1587 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
486 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

987 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
2073 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

350 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-8)
Nursing Homes 210 -> 208
Resident Care 101 -> 97
Correctional 37 -> 35
Other 10 -> 10
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845 positive cases over 18711* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18711 but DHHS claims only 13313 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/14
9/13, 9/12(3), 9/11, 9/10, 9/9, 9/8, 8/27, 8/22, 8/17

3 DoD previously missing assigned dates.


DHHS TESTING % POSITIVE FOR TODAY 4.8%
9/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
186,887
NC Deaths
3111
Currently Hospitalized
916 <- 94% reporting (was 895 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,652,440


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1621 Deaths are now Congregate (+34)
489 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+51 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

1001 Deaths assumed General Population (+14)
2110 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+37)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 208 -> 205
Resident Care 97 -> 96
Correctional 35 -> 36
Other 10 -> 8
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1106 positive cases over 17621* new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 17621 but DHHS claims only 9563 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 9/15
9/14(7), 9/13(6), 9/12(5), 9/11(8), 9/10(3), 9/9, 9/8, 9/7(3), 9/6, 9/5, 9/1, 8/30, 8/17, 8/12, 8/9, 8/7, 8/4, 8/3, 8/1, 7/23, 7/16, 7/12(2), 4/14

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34 more congregate deaths? Cohen's plan doesn't seem to be very effective. Seems that should be drawing her attention, not parents at CFB games.
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Packchem91 said:

34 more congregate deaths? Cohen's plan doesn't seem to be very effective. Seems that should be drawing her attention, not parents at CFB games.
Well you know she doesn't think football should be played during a pandemic. The parents not going is not her fault you see.
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Packchem91 said:

34 more congregate deaths? Cohen's plan doesn't seem to be very effective. Seems that should be drawing her attention, not parents at CFB games.
At this point it's comical that our response to congregate facilities has been so bad
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