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Packchem91
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Daviewolf83 said:

The media definitely has an agenda and are definitely trying to politicize this pandemic, as evidenced by the latest "Breaking News" Tweet by WRAL.




Here is the comment I posted back to their Tweet:


Great response.

I know comments are dangerous to read....but reading them about any Covid statistic completely destroys any thoughts of "this should not be political".
You can absolutely see political leanings in basically every single response...well, at least in the "angry" responses. 4 cases....to your point way below the norm given the # of people tested, and yet people are acting like it was 1000 people having a keg party and dancing on tables in a room for 10 and that now the world is coming to an end.
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Packchem91 said:

Daviewolf83 said:

The media definitely has an agenda and are definitely trying to politicize this pandemic, as evidenced by the latest "Breaking News" Tweet by WRAL.




Here is the comment I posted back to their Tweet:


Great response.

I know comments are dangerous to read....but reading them about any Covid statistic completely destroys any thoughts of "this should not be political".
You can absolutely see political leanings in basically every single response...well, at least in the "angry" responses. 4 cases....to your point way below the norm given the # of people tested, and yet people are acting like it was 1000 people having a keg party and dancing on tables in a room for 10 and that now the world is coming to an end.
Funny thing with comments on Twitter aimed at my comment (I assume there may be some). I do not read any of the comments to any Tweet I post. So, people are wasting their time on Twitter if they are commenting back to me. I assume most of the negative comments are from people too ignorant for me to try and persuade, so I am not going to waste my time with them.
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WRAL news is pure trash!
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82TxPackFan said:

WRAL news is pure trash!
Why anyone associated with NC State pays attention to them is beyond me.

They are essentially a hostile entity to the university. They are directly across the street and we should be their "home town team" but are not and never have been.

I bet Gravely can tell some stories about how he had to frame certain things when he was there.

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Wow that is just awful from WRAL
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8/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
143,706
NC Deaths
2343
Currently Hospitalized
1032 <- 91% reporting (was 1049 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,903,401

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1216 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
376 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

751 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1592 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

344 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+6)
Nursing Homes 183 -> 186
Resident Care 99 -> 101
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2321* deaths

1536 positive cases over 26713* new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 25999 but DHHS claims only 24270 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/15
8/14(2), 8/13(4), 8/12(5), 8/11(5), 8/10, 8/9, 8/8, 8/6(2), 8/4, 8/1, 7/24, 7/22, 7/16, 7/14, 7/13(2), 7/10
8/16/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
144,952
NC Deaths
2347
Currently Hospitalized
934 <- 80% reporting (was 1032 at 91% yesterday) MAHPC only 31%
Completed Tests
1,924,646

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1217 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
377 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

753 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1594 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 186 -> 187
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 45 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2376* deaths

1246 positive cases over 21205* new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22205 but DHHS claims only 20338 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/16
8/14, 8/12(2), 8/11, 8/9
8/17/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
145,516
NC Deaths
2348
Currently Hospitalized
980 <- 85% reporting (was 934 at 80% yesterday MAHPC only 31%)
Completed Tests
1,935,472

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1218 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
377 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+1 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

753 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1595 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+1)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 187 -> 187
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 45 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2376* deaths

564 positive cases over 10826* new tests. 5.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 10826 but DHHS claims only 10302 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/17
One Death Added With Missing Date

Looks like for deaths Meck and Wake were both +1 and Durham was -1 for a Net of 1.

8/18/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
146,779
NC Deaths
2396
Currently Hospitalized
1026 <- 85% reporting (was 980 at 85%)
Completed Tests
1,951,120

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1237 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
389 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+12)
+48 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

770 Deaths assumed General Population (+17)
1626 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+31)

344 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 187 -> 186
Resident Care 101 -> 105
Correctional 45 -> 43
Other 12 -> 10
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WRAL is at 2377* deaths

1263 positive cases over 15648* new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15648 but DHHS claims only 10048 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/18
8/17(3), 8/16(10), 8/15(10), 8/14(9), 8/13(2), 8/12(3), 8/9(2), 8/8(2), 8/7(2), 8/3, 7/25, 7/6, and 3/12(Checking This)
1 additional missing date of death.
8/19/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
147,932
NC Deaths
2431
Currently Hospitalized
1001 <- 91% reporting (was 1026 at 93%)
Completed Tests
1,978,094

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1247 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
394 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+35 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

790 Deaths assumed General Population (+20)
1641 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-1)
Nursing Homes 186 -> 188
Resident Care 105 -> 102
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 10 -> 10
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WRAL is at 2438* deaths

1153 positive cases over 26974* new tests. 4.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 26974 but DHHS claims only 26323 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/19
8/18(6), 8/17(9), 8/16(5), 8,15(2) 8/14, 8/13(2), 8/12(2), 8/11, 8/7(2), 8/6, 7/29
3 new missing dates of death for 6 total
8/20/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
149,904
NC Deaths
2465
Currently Hospitalized
1023 <- 91% reporting (was 1001 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,003,307

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1262 Deaths are now Congregate (+15)
401 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+34 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

802 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1663 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)

347 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 188 -> 188
Resident Care 102 -> 105
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 10 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2463* deaths

1972 positive cases over 25213* new tests. 7.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 25213 but DHHS claims only 21375 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/20
8/19(3), 8/18(8), 8/17(6), 8/16(3), 8/15(2), 8/14, 8/13(2), 8/12(3), 8/11, 8/10(3), 8/8, 8/7, 8/6, 8/1, 7/29, 7/20
One Death REMOVED 7/28
8/21/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
151.912
NC Deaths
2494
Currently Hospitalized
1015 <- 90% reporting (was 1023 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,030,885

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1271 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
413 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+12)
+29 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

810 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1684 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

354 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+7)
Nursing Homes 188 -> 192
Resident Care 105 -> 108
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2487* deaths

2008 positive cases over 27587* new tests. 7.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27587 but DHHS claims only 22076 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/21
8/20(3), 8/19(9), 8/18(9), 8/16(2), 8/15(2), 8/13, 8/11, 8/5, 7/15(3)
One added date from missing

Deaths REMOVED
8/14, 5/16

Cases definitely up this week.
8/22/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
153,641
NC Deaths
2521
Currently Hospitalized
996 <- 92% reporting (was 1015 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,052,118

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1285 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
415 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

821 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1700 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

361 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+7)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 195
Resident Care 108 -> 109
Correctional 43 -> 46
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at xxxx* deaths

1729 positive cases over 21233* new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 21233 but DHHS claims only 16919 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/22
8/21(6), 8/20(5), 8/19, 8/18(5), 8/15, 8/14(2) 8/13, 8/12, 8/11, 8/10, 8/9, 8/8, 8/7(2), 8/6

One Death Removed
6/13
8/23/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
155,113
NC Deaths
2531
Currently Hospitalized
898 <- 84% reporting (was 996 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,078,472

CONGREGATE NOT UPDATED BY DHHS
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1285 Deaths are now Congregate (+x)
415 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+x)
+10 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

821 Deaths assumed General Population (+x)
1700 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+x)

361 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+x)
Nursing Homes 195 -> xxx
Resident Care 109 -> xxx
Correctional 46 -> xx
Other 11 -> xx
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WRAL is at 2552* deaths

1472 positive cases over 21233* new tests. 5.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 26354 but DHHS claims only 21567 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/23
8/22(3), 8/21(4), 8/20, 8/16
One Additional Missing Date
8/24/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
156,396
NC Deaths
2535
Currently Hospitalized
948 <- 83% reporting (was 898 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,087,695

CONGREGATE NOT UPDATED BY DHHS on 8/23.
BELOW IS 2 DAY CHANGE 8/23 and 8/24
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1287 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
420 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+10 on 8/23)

828 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1707 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

365 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 195 -> 199
Resident Care 109 -> 109
Correctional 46 -> 46
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2562* deaths

1283 positive cases over 9223* new tests. 14% positive rate. <- college outbreak testing(?)

Delta completed tests 9223 but DHHS claims only 9003 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/24
8/23, 8/22(3)

Reviewing additional data

8/25/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
157,741
NC Deaths
2570
Currently Hospitalized
1000 <- 92% reporting (was 898 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,102,359


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1302 Deaths are now Congregate (+15)
430 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+35 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

838 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1732 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+25)

371 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+6)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 202
Resident Care 109 -> 110
Correctional 46 -> 48
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2574* deaths

1345 positive cases over 14644* new tests. 9.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 14644 but DHHS claims only 8467 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/25
8/24(3), 8/23(8), 8/21(10), 8/20(7), 8/15(2), 8/2

Four new MISSING Dates of Death (now 6 total).

8/26/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
158,985
NC Deaths
2606
Currently Hospitalized
1004 <- 90% reporting (was 1000 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,121,001


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1323 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
437 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+36 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

846 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1760 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+28)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-13)
Nursing Homes 202 -> 196
Resident Care 110 -> 105
Correctional 48 -> 45
Other 11 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2599* deaths

1244 positive cases over 18642* new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18642 but DHHS claims only 15303 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/26
8/25(6), 8/24(11), 8/23(10), 8/22(2), 8/21(3), 8/20, 8/19, 8/15, 8/11, 8/9, 8/8, 8/5, 8/4


8/27/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
161,076
NC Deaths
2630
Currently Hospitalized
958 <- 89% reporting (was 1004 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,152,725


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1333 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
439 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

858 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1772 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+12)

355 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+8)
Nursing Homes 196 -> 198
Resident Care 105 -> 110
Correctional 45 -> 47
Other 12 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2634* deaths

2091 positive cases over 31724* new tests. 6.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31724 but DHHS claims only 21077 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/27
8/26(2), 8/25(8), 8/24(3), 8/23(3), 8/22, 8/21, 8/19(2), 8/18, 8/15, 8/12, 7/26, 7/19


8/28/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
162,491
NC Deaths
2652
Currently Hospitalized
970 <- 93% reporting (was 958 at 89%)
Completed Tests
2,182,891


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1342 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
442 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

868 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1784 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+12)

363 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 198 -> 200
Resident Care 110 -> 109
Correctional 47 -> 46
Other 11 -> 8
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WRAL is at 2664* deaths

1415 positive cases over 30166* new tests. 4.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30166 but DHHS claims only 23622 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/28
8/27(2), 8/26(5), 8/25(3), 8/24, 8/23, 8/22, 8/20, 8/19(2), 8/18, 8/17, 8/16, 8/13, 8/12, 8/10, 8/8, 8/1, 6/25

Deaths REMOVED
8/7, 7/10, 5/25
statefan91
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Good to see, low positivity, lower hospitalizations
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statefan91
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Really wish they had decided to do remote start for the colleges instead of bringing all those kids back. Hopefully our numbers stay steady or decline from this point so we hear about some things opening up on 9/11.
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At some point in the near future, the State should reach a point of diminishing returns regarding back-filling data.
Like I said, if you can't get hyped for the Carolina game, why are you here?
-Earl Wolff-
desope24
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910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
910wolf
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dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
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910wolf said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
I don't think the "story" is about how many tested positive. The story is the White House holding a political event with 1,500 people packed together without masks in the midst of a 100-year pandemic and, guess what, some of those people were COVID positive. The percent positive is irrelevant.
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dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
I don't think the "story" is about how many tested positive. The story is the White House holding a political event with 1,500 people packed together without masks in the midst of a 100-year pandemic and, guess what, some of those people were COVID positive. The percent positive is irrelevant.
Well at least you are being consistent... now how about those rioters confronting people (in their personal space) on their way out of the event? No comment about them I'm sure... of course not!
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dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
I don't think the "story" is about how many tested positive. The story is the White House holding a political event with 1,500 people packed together without masks in the midst of a 100-year pandemic and, guess what, some of those people were COVID positive. The percent positive is irrelevant.


Oh, so you would be their target audience. Lol.
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.20080911v3.full.pdf

False positives could be an issue in some cases. Something we need to be mindful of when our cases do decrease.


Quote:


"The high specificities (usually 100%) reported in PCR-based tests for SARS-CoV-2 infection do not represent the real-world use of these tests, where contamination and human error produce significant rates of false positives."



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dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
I don't think the "story" is about how many tested positive. The story is the White House holding a political event with 1,500 people packed together without masks in the midst of a 100-year pandemic and, guess what, some of those people were COVID positive. The percent positive is irrelevant.
Was the story about the event at the White House? I thought it was about what happened in NC.
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910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL


Owner of WRAL is one of the largest democrat donors in the state . His network so he can put out whatever content he wants . It's America . On the flip side viewers have the option to boycott WRAL platforms and 99.9 fan etc .
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Bas2020 said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL


Owner of WRAL is one of the largest democrat donors in the state . His network so he can put out whatever content he wants . It's America . On the flip side viewers have the option to boycott WRAL platforms and 99.9 fan etc .


And they should.
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Edit.... thought this was a different thread.
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8/15/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
143,706
NC Deaths
2343
Currently Hospitalized
1032 <- 91% reporting (was 1049 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,903,401

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1216 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
376 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

751 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1592 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+20)

344 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+6)
Nursing Homes 183 -> 186
Resident Care 99 -> 101
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2321* deaths

1536 positive cases over 26713* new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 25999 but DHHS claims only 24270 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/15
8/14(2), 8/13(4), 8/12(5), 8/11(5), 8/10, 8/9, 8/8, 8/6(2), 8/4, 8/1, 7/24, 7/22, 7/16, 7/14, 7/13(2), 7/10
8/16/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
144,952
NC Deaths
2347
Currently Hospitalized
934 <- 80% reporting (was 1032 at 91% yesterday) MAHPC only 31%
Completed Tests
1,924,646

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1217 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
377 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

753 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1594 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 186 -> 187
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 45 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2376* deaths

1246 positive cases over 21205* new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 22205 but DHHS claims only 20338 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/16
8/14, 8/12(2), 8/11, 8/9
8/17/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
145,516
NC Deaths
2348
Currently Hospitalized
980 <- 85% reporting (was 934 at 80% yesterday MAHPC only 31%)
Completed Tests
1,935,472

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1218 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
377 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+1 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

753 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1595 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+1)

345 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 187 -> 187
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 45 -> 45
Other 12 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2376* deaths

564 positive cases over 10826* new tests. 5.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 10826 but DHHS claims only 10302 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/17
One Death Added With Missing Date

Looks like for deaths Meck and Wake were both +1 and Durham was -1 for a Net of 1.

8/18/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
146,779
NC Deaths
2396
Currently Hospitalized
1026 <- 85% reporting (was 980 at 85%)
Completed Tests
1,951,120

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1237 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
389 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+12)
+48 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

770 Deaths assumed General Population (+17)
1626 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+31)

344 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 187 -> 186
Resident Care 101 -> 105
Correctional 45 -> 43
Other 12 -> 10
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WRAL is at 2377* deaths

1263 positive cases over 15648* new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15648 but DHHS claims only 10048 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/18
8/17(3), 8/16(10), 8/15(10), 8/14(9), 8/13(2), 8/12(3), 8/9(2), 8/8(2), 8/7(2), 8/3, 7/25, 7/6, and 3/12(Checking This)
1 additional missing date of death.
8/19/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
147,932
NC Deaths
2431
Currently Hospitalized
1001 <- 91% reporting (was 1026 at 93%)
Completed Tests
1,978,094

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1247 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
394 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+35 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

790 Deaths assumed General Population (+20)
1641 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-1)
Nursing Homes 186 -> 188
Resident Care 105 -> 102
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 10 -> 10
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WRAL is at 2438* deaths

1153 positive cases over 26974* new tests. 4.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 26974 but DHHS claims only 26323 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/19
8/18(6), 8/17(9), 8/16(5), 8,15(2) 8/14, 8/13(2), 8/12(2), 8/11, 8/7(2), 8/6, 7/29
3 new missing dates of death for 6 total
8/20/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
149,904
NC Deaths
2465
Currently Hospitalized
1023 <- 91% reporting (was 1001 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,003,307

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1262 Deaths are now Congregate (+15)
401 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+34 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

802 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1663 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)

347 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 188 -> 188
Resident Care 102 -> 105
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 10 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2463* deaths

1972 positive cases over 25213* new tests. 7.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 25213 but DHHS claims only 21375 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/20
8/19(3), 8/18(8), 8/17(6), 8/16(3), 8/15(2), 8/14, 8/13(2), 8/12(3), 8/11, 8/10(3), 8/8, 8/7, 8/6, 8/1, 7/29, 7/20
One Death REMOVED 7/28
8/21/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
151.912
NC Deaths
2494
Currently Hospitalized
1015 <- 90% reporting (was 1023 at 91%)
Completed Tests
2,030,885

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1271 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
413 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+12)
+29 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

810 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1684 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

354 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+7)
Nursing Homes 188 -> 192
Resident Care 105 -> 108
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2487* deaths

2008 positive cases over 27587* new tests. 7.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27587 but DHHS claims only 22076 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/21
8/20(3), 8/19(9), 8/18(9), 8/16(2), 8/15(2), 8/13, 8/11, 8/5, 7/15(3)
One added date from missing

Deaths REMOVED
8/14, 5/16

Cases definitely up this week.
8/22/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
153,641
NC Deaths
2521
Currently Hospitalized
996 <- 92% reporting (was 1015 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,052,118

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1285 Deaths are now Congregate (+14)
415 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

821 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1700 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

361 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+7)
Nursing Homes 192 -> 195
Resident Care 108 -> 109
Correctional 43 -> 46
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at xxxx* deaths

1729 positive cases over 21233* new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 21233 but DHHS claims only 16919 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/22
8/21(6), 8/20(5), 8/19, 8/18(5), 8/15, 8/14(2) 8/13, 8/12, 8/11, 8/10, 8/9, 8/8, 8/7(2), 8/6

One Death Removed
6/13
8/23/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
155,113
NC Deaths
2531
Currently Hospitalized
898 <- 84% reporting (was 996 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,078,472

CONGREGATE NOT UPDATED BY DHHS
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1285 Deaths are now Congregate (+x)
415 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+x)
+10 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

821 Deaths assumed General Population (+x)
1700 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+x)

361 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+x)
Nursing Homes 195 -> xxx
Resident Care 109 -> xxx
Correctional 46 -> xx
Other 11 -> xx
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WRAL is at 2552* deaths

1472 positive cases over 21233* new tests. 5.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 26354 but DHHS claims only 21567 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/23
8/22(3), 8/21(4), 8/20, 8/16
One Additional Missing Date
8/24/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
156,396
NC Deaths
2535
Currently Hospitalized
948 <- 83% reporting (was 898 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,087,695

CONGREGATE NOT UPDATED BY DHHS on 8/23.
BELOW IS 2 DAY CHANGE 8/23 and 8/24
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1287 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
420 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+10 on 8/23)

828 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1707 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)

365 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 195 -> 199
Resident Care 109 -> 109
Correctional 46 -> 46
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2562* deaths

1283 positive cases over 9223* new tests. 14% positive rate. <- college outbreak testing(?)

Delta completed tests 9223 but DHHS claims only 9003 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/24
8/23, 8/22(3)

Reviewing additional data

8/25/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
157,741
NC Deaths
2570
Currently Hospitalized
1000 <- 92% reporting (was 898 at 84%)
Completed Tests
2,102,359


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1302 Deaths are now Congregate (+15)
430 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+35 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

838 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1732 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+25)

371 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+6)
Nursing Homes 199 -> 202
Resident Care 109 -> 110
Correctional 46 -> 48
Other 11 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2574* deaths

1345 positive cases over 14644* new tests. 9.2% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 14644 but DHHS claims only 8467 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/25
8/24(3), 8/23(8), 8/21(10), 8/20(7), 8/15(2), 8/2

Four new MISSING Dates of Death (now 6 total).

8/26/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
158,985
NC Deaths
2606
Currently Hospitalized
1004 <- 90% reporting (was 1000 at 92%)
Completed Tests
2,121,001


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1323 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
437 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+36 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

846 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1760 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+28)

358 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-13)
Nursing Homes 202 -> 196
Resident Care 110 -> 105
Correctional 48 -> 45
Other 11 -> 12
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WRAL is at 2599* deaths

1244 positive cases over 18642* new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 18642 but DHHS claims only 15303 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/26
8/25(6), 8/24(11), 8/23(10), 8/22(2), 8/21(3), 8/20, 8/19, 8/15, 8/11, 8/9, 8/8, 8/5, 8/4


8/27/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
161,076
NC Deaths
2630
Currently Hospitalized
958 <- 89% reporting (was 1004 at 90%)
Completed Tests
2,152,725


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1333 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
439 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

858 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1772 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+12)

355 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (+8)
Nursing Homes 196 -> 198
Resident Care 105 -> 110
Correctional 45 -> 47
Other 12 -> 11
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WRAL is at 2634* deaths

2091 positive cases over 31724* new tests. 6.6% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31724 but DHHS claims only 21077 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/27
8/26(2), 8/25(8), 8/24(3), 8/23(3), 8/22, 8/21, 8/19(2), 8/18, 8/15, 8/12, 7/26, 7/19


8/28/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
162,491
NC Deaths
2652
Currently Hospitalized
970 <- 93% reporting (was 958 at 89%)
Completed Tests
2,182,891


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1342 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
442 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

868 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1784 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+12)

363 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 198 -> 200
Resident Care 110 -> 109
Correctional 47 -> 46
Other 11 -> 8
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WRAL is at 2664* deaths

1415 positive cases over 30166* new tests. 4.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 30166 but DHHS claims only 23622 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/28
8/27(2), 8/26(5), 8/25(3), 8/24, 8/23, 8/22, 8/20, 8/19(2), 8/18, 8/17, 8/16, 8/13, 8/12, 8/10, 8/8, 8/1, 6/25

Deaths REMOVED
8/7, 7/10, 5/25
8/29/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
165,076
NC Deaths
2683
Currently Hospitalized
965 <- 90% reporting (was 970 at 93%)
Completed Tests
2,218,149


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1360 Deaths are now Congregate (+18)
448 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+31 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

875 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1808 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

354 Congregate Facilities now have an active outbreak. (-9)
Nursing Homes 200 -> 196
Resident Care 109 -> 104
Correctional 46 -> 46
Other 8 -> 8
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WRAL is at 2683* deaths

2585 positive cases over 35258* new tests. 7.3% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 35258 but DHHS claims only 18647 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/29
8/28(5), 8/27(6), 8/26(4), 8/25(2),8/22, 8/21(2), 8/19(2), 8/18, 8/16, 8/12, 8/9, 7/31(2), 7/20(1)

2 Missing Dates of Death.

Wow. Lots of cases. Looks like we still haven't cleared the college backlog.

Today's report contains over 870 cases from over 2 weeks ago. Worst backlog report EVER.
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Worst data dump by the state yet. Between mid-July and today, the highest percentage of cases outside of 9 days was 18% on 7/28. And only 3 times were more than 10% of reported cases more than 9 days before the reporting date.

Today you had a full 33% from PRIOR 14 DAYS

Just to show, despite the media panic. The old case reporting has no effect on our CURRENT trend... the data almost not relevant.

Just raises valley slightly.

Packchem91
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Wayland -- is that increase the result of the startup of colleges and the number of cases there?
desope24
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Cthepack said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

dogplasma said:

910wolf said:

Wow that is just awful from WRAL
Why?
Presenting numbers in a negative manner without the context that Davie provided. The actual fact reads a lot different than the way it was presented.
I don't think the "story" is about how many tested positive. The story is the White House holding a political event with 1,500 people packed together without masks in the midst of a 100-year pandemic and, guess what, some of those people were COVID positive. The percent positive is irrelevant.
Was the story about the event at the White House? I thought it was about what happened in NC.
Yep, sure is. I don't know what the **** I was looking at, or thought I was looking at. This is why I need to spend more than ten seconds on a thread at a time!
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Packchem91 said:

Wayland -- is that increase the result of the startup of colleges and the number of cases there?


Yes, the secondary peak is primarily due to colleges.

The shift of the date of specimen collection trend line was due to 1000 cases that LabCorp didnlt report.
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Was reading the CDC site and came into this article. Apparently Coronavirus is the only cause of death posted in just 6% of the people who are listed as dead by coronavirus. Everyone else died due to something else and Coronavirus was listed as a secondary cause...and we have shut down the entire country for 5 months over this. It's time to open everything back up, send the kids back to school, and let get football season started

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI
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That's not the good news you think it is. That means on 6 percent the actual thing that caused the death BECAUSE of covid wasn't listed. Covid should almost never be the only COD. Look at the table. The COD is actually ARDS, pneumonia, respiratory arrest, cardiac ischemia, etc SECONDARY TO covid. Covid caused the condition that finally led to death. Does that make sense? That 6 percent number means nada except the percentage of death certificates incompletely done for one reason or another.
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Mormad said:

That's not the good news you think it is. That means on 6 percent the actual thing that caused the death BECAUSE of covid wasn't listed. Covid should almost never be the only COD. Look at the table. The COD is actually ARDS, pneumonia, respiratory arrest, cardiac ischemia, etc SECONDARY TO covid. Covid caused the condition that finally led to death. Does that make sense? That 6 percent number means nada except the percentage of death certificates incompletely done for one reason or another.
I'm confused on this. So you're saying Covid caused the comorbidities? Maybe I'm misinterpreting but I took it to mean patients presented with Covid along with other underlying conditions (obesity, COPD, kidney disease, etc) and that only 6% died from Covid with no other underlying conditions.

I, too, work in a hospital and we've not had a single death from Covid where the patient wasn't already "circling the drain", as the doctors often say, prior to getting Covid, However, the death (in all cases) was listed as Covid.
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Maybe this has already come up: Dude from Nevada is first in US to have confirmed second COVID infection.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article245351415.html
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Here is a very interesting article from the New York Times on testing and the issues of using the PCR testing results to make policy decisions. The article suggests what is needed is the use of more rapid tests which is something we have on the horizon. In fact, the federal government just signaled they intend to purchased 150 million rapid tests just for this purpose.

Read the whole article here: Your Coronavirus Test is Positive. Maybe it Shouldn't Be.

Some key points from the article, if you do not want to read the whole thing:

1. Patients identified as positive may carry "insignificant" amounts of virus.
"Some of the nation's leading public health experts are raising a new concern in the endless debate over coronavirus testing in the United States: The standard tests are diagnosing huge numbers of people who may be carrying relatively insignificant amounts of the virus."

2. Number of cycles required to identify the virus is important
"The PCR test amplifies genetic matter from the virus in cycles; the fewer cycles required, the greater the amount of virus, or viral load, in the sample. The greater the viral load, the more likely the patient is to be contagious."

"This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are."


"In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found."

3. Amplification cycles as high and greater than 40 are too high for identifying contagious cases.
"Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. "I'm shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive," she said."

"A more reasonable cutoff would be 30 to 35, she added. Dr. Mina said he would set the figure at 30, or even less."

4. CDC says it is difficult to find viable virus above a threshold of 33 cycles. North Carolina's lab's threshold is higher than 33, making the test overly sensitive.
"The C.D.C.'s own calculations suggest that it is extremely difficult to detect any live virus in a sample above a threshold of 33 cycles."

"North Carolina's state lab uses the Thermo Fisher coronavirus test, which automatically classifies results based on a cutoff of 37 cycles." <== The difference between 33 and 37 is not insignificant, since amplification is exponential

5. In one recent analysis, limiting the cycles to 35 would cause half of the positive samples to no longer be classified as positive.
"With a cutoff of 35, about half of those tests would no longer qualify as positive. About 70 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30."

6. When shown results of one study, some doctors are shocked at the information and believe we need to change our thinking about testing.
" 'I'm really shocked that it could be that high the proportion of people with high C.T. value results,' said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. 'Boy, does it really change the way we need to be thinking about testing.' "

"The number of people with positive results who aren't infectious is particularly concerning, said Scott Becker, executive director of the Association of Public Health Laboratories. 'That worries me a lot, just because it's so high,' he said, adding that the organization intended to meet with Dr. Mina to discuss the issue."

7. Rapid Testing could and likely is more important as a diagnostic tool
"The F.D.A. noted that people may have a low viral load when they are newly infected. A test with less sensitivity would miss these infections."

"But that problem is easily solved, Dr. Mina said: 'Test them again, six hours later or 15 hours later or whatever,' he said. A rapid test would find these patients quickly, even if it were less sensitive, because their viral loads would quickly rise."


"But for the outbreaks raging now, he said, what's needed are coronavirus tests that are fast, cheap and abundant enough to frequently test everyone who needs it even if the tests are less sensitive."
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Wow
cowboypack02
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Mormad said:

That's not the good news you think it is. That means on 6 percent the actual thing that caused the death BECAUSE of covid wasn't listed. Covid should almost never be the only COD. Look at the table. The COD is actually ARDS, pneumonia, respiratory arrest, cardiac ischemia, etc SECONDARY TO covid. Covid caused the condition that finally led to death. Does that make sense? That 6 percent number means nada except the percentage of death certificates incompletely done for one reason or another.


I'm confused as well. Shouldn't that mean unless there is an underlying condition then we should get back to normal?
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Yes, I think you're misinterpreting. Yes, people with comorbid conditions like obesity, DM, and HTN are more likely to die if infected, but those conditions in and of themselves aren't a cause of death. People don't show up in the hospital and die of being fat. They die when their comorbid conditions lead to inability to avoid complications of things like covid.

People don't die of covid. They die from complications of covid. The asymptomatic and those who don't die of covid are the ones who don't develop a cause of death like those listed for the other 94 percent of the people in the table listed - ARDS, respiratory arrest, pneumonia, myocardial events, etc which are direct complications of covid. They didn't just come in circling the drain from ARDS and then just die and by happenstance test positive for covid of which they were completely asymptomatic. The covid CAUSED the ARDS, and then rightfully the cause of death is then ARDS SECONDARY TO COVID. It's written out that way correctly on death certificates and thus only 6 percent have covid as the only cause of death.

If there a small percentage of relatively sick people who are infected with sars-cv19 but never develop the disease (covid), ie are completely asymptomatic, and show up in the ER and die of a heart attack unrelated to the infection? Sure. Likely happens occasionally. But how do we know the infection didn't cause the heart attack? Based on the pathophysiology of this disease and it's way of affecting the heart and causing micro clots, it probably DID. But to try to explain away all these deaths as people who were "dying anyway" and just happened to have an symptomatic Cv19 infection is really far fetched.

Unless there have been very few deaths where you work I have a very difficult time believing your last paragraph for the reasons I explain above. Unless you and I are there treating docs and filling out their DCs we'll never know, but I think it's very unlikely that Cv19 is so prevalent and yet so asymptomatic in such sick individuals that are already "circling the drain" from some random unassociated etiology that their deaths are completely unrelated to covid.

Lastly, I've tried to explain this before. Covid, even if determined to NOT be the IMMEDIATE COD, will rightfully be listed for surveillance reasons. Especially during a pandemic. This is NOT done to make the numbers look bad to ruin your life for some political reason. Some aholes may try to use the data for that I'm sure. But it's done for community health reasons so the people charged with making public health decisions have some real clue as to how this disease is affecting our communities from a public health perspective. If you want to be mad at politicians for using such data for political gain I don't blame you. But being angry it's listed that way is not useful because it's being done so correctly.
Mormad
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Yes, I think you're misinterpreting. Yes, people with comorbid conditions like obesity, DM, and HTN are more likely to die if infected, but those conditions in and of themselves aren't a cause of death. People don't show up in the hospital and die of being fat. They die when their comorbid conditions lead to inability to avoid complications of things like covid.

People don't die of covid. They die from complications of covid. The asymptomatic and those who don't die of covid are the ones who don't develop a cause of death like those listed for the other 94 percent of the people in the table listed - ARDS, respiratory arrest, pneumonia, myocardial events, etc which are direct complications of covid. They didn't just come in circling the drain from ARDS and then just die and by happenstance test positive for covid of which they were completely asymptomatic. The covid CAUSED the ARDS, and then rightfully the cause of death is then ARDS SECONDARY TO COVID. It's written out that way correctly on death certificates and thus only 6 percent have covid as the only cause of death.

If there a small percentage of relatively sick people who are infected with sars-cv19 but never develop the disease (covid), ie are completely asymptomatic, and show up in the ER and die of a heart attack unrelated to the infection? Sure. Likely happens occasionally. But how do we know the infection didn't cause the heart attack? Based on the pathophysiology of this disease and it's way of affecting the heart and causing micro clots, it probably DID. But to try to explain away all these deaths as people who were "dying anyway" and just happened to have an symptomatic Cv19 infection is really far fetched.

Unless there have been very few deaths where you work I have a very difficult time believing your last paragraph for the reasons I explain above. Unless you and I are there treating docs and filling out their DCs we'll never know, but I think it's very unlikely that Cv19 is so prevalent and yet so asymptomatic in such sick individuals that are already "circling the drain" from some random unassociated etiology that their deaths are completely unrelated to covid.

Lastly, I've tried to explain this before. Covid, even if determined to NOT be the IMMEDIATE COD, will rightfully be listed for surveillance reasons. Especially during a pandemic. This is NOT done to make the numbers look bad to ruin your life for some political reason. Some aholes may try to use the data for that I'm sure. But it's done for community health reasons so the people charged with making public health decisions have some real clue as to how this disease is affecting our communities from a public health perspective. If you want to be mad at politicians for using such data for political gain I don't blame you. But being angry it's listed that way is not useful because it's being done so correctly.
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Great info Mormad, thanks much for your pro perspective.
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