I agree hospitalizations are low.wilmwolf80 said:
I don't know. Just posting what was reported in the article. I would expect the number of tests and number of people being tested should be increasing exponentially based on the number of tests that are becoming available after the initial shortage. Anecdotally, on Monday I didn't know anyone that had been tested, but yesterday four different friends reported on social media that they had been tested and were awaiting results. Ultimately the point of what I posted wasn't the total number of tests, it was the low number of hospitalizations.
Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
TopsailWolf said:
That's maybe one month of bills. What about May, June, or July?
That I agree with. It seems impractical to treat every area the same. We tend to think of the US as this big, homogeneous place, but in reality, it's more like a collection of a bunch of small countries and population centers. It's simply not going to affect a rural NC town in the same way it affects NYC. A few pages ago I noted that the population density of NYC is 26,000 people per square mile. It's going to run through that place like crazy, even if people are sheltering in place.RunsWithWolves26 said:
Just heard Dr. Mark Segal say that NY is Wuhan 2.0. He said he would like to see the USA do to NY what China did to Wuhan because it isn't a epic event nation wide but it is in that specific state. He makes a good point actually considering 57% of all cases are in NY.
wilmwolf80 said:That I agree with. It seems impractical to treat every area the same. We tend to think of the US as this big, homogeneous place, but in reality, it's more like a collection of a bunch of small countries and population centers. It's simply not going to affect a rural NC town in the same way it affects NYC. A few pages ago I noted that the population density of NYC is 26,000 people per square mile. It's going to run through that place like crazy, even if people are sheltering in place.RunsWithWolves26 said:
Just heard Dr. Mark Segal say that NY is Wuhan 2.0. He said he would like to see the USA do to NY what China did to Wuhan because it isn't a epic event nation wide but it is in that specific state. He makes a good point actually considering 57% of all cases are in NY.
No test unless I get worse. I just mentioned a fever and sore throat to my Ops Mgr and it snowballed from therestatefan91 said:Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
Best wishes, are you under quarantine because you had symptoms but they didn't give you the covid test?
So in my opinion, you're a prime example of someone that should be able to get tested and then know whether or not you have to isolate. It's ridiculous that there aren't enough testing supplies to test anyone that they would then direct to isolate.Glasswolf said:No test unless I get worse. I just mentioned a fever and sore throat to my Ops Mgr and it snowballed from therestatefan91 said:Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
Best wishes, are you under quarantine because you had symptoms but they didn't give you the covid test?
i tend to agree so long as folk in NY metro area don't leave and go all over, which apparently they've been doing. stay the **** home.RunsWithWolves26 said:
It's still crazy that over half the cases in the country come from 1 state. De Blasio and Coumo make it sound like what they are dealing with will be every single state in 2 weeks but I just don't see it. It's gonna be really hard to duplicate what is happening in NY to every other state. Regardless, I believe this entire event should be taken seriously. At the same time, at what point do things turn really bad with no economy anymore? Something needs to change and I believe the extreme I crease in testing is that something. We have tested in 8 days what SK did in 8 weeks, if I heard Dr. Berx right yesterday. That is moving in the right direction.
yep and this is where south korea has lapped us. If all the mild symptom cases were tested, we'd have a ton more cases (which on the surface would be bad), but this 20% requiring hospitalization number and death rates (which are the most important numbers probably) would go way down.statefan91 said:So in my opinion, you're a prime example of someone that should be able to get tested and then know whether or not you have to isolate. It's ridiculous that there aren't enough testing supplies to test anyone that they would then direct to isolate.Glasswolf said:No test unless I get worse. I just mentioned a fever and sore throat to my Ops Mgr and it snowballed from therestatefan91 said:Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
Best wishes, are you under quarantine because you had symptoms but they didn't give you the covid test?
I'm going to the doctor in the morning to eliminate the flu and strep. We will go from therestatefan91 said:So in my opinion, you're a prime example of someone that should be able to get tested and then know whether or not you have to isolate. It's ridiculous that there aren't enough testing supplies to test anyone that they would then direct to isolate.Glasswolf said:No test unless I get worse. I just mentioned a fever and sore throat to my Ops Mgr and it snowballed from therestatefan91 said:Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
Best wishes, are you under quarantine because you had symptoms but they didn't give you the covid test?
Ok - that's what they did for my wife. She came back negative on those and got the COVID test, then took five days (test Wednesday, results Monday) to clear her.Glasswolf said:I'm going to the doctor in the morning to eliminate the flu and strep. We will go from therestatefan91 said:So in my opinion, you're a prime example of someone that should be able to get tested and then know whether or not you have to isolate. It's ridiculous that there aren't enough testing supplies to test anyone that they would then direct to isolate.Glasswolf said:No test unless I get worse. I just mentioned a fever and sore throat to my Ops Mgr and it snowballed from therestatefan91 said:Glasswolf said:
Well I'm under 14 day self quarantine due to a fever and sore throat
Best wishes, are you under quarantine because you had symptoms but they didn't give you the covid test?
Wayland said:
Just announced in the Governor's update...
29 people in the hospital with Corona (not ICU mind you that is likely much much smaller) ... 29 people IN THE WHOLE STATE.
We could so go to the SK method of testing, identifying, and isolating clusters as they happen. The fact that we are at a stay at home over 29 hospitalizations is kind of crazy.
The state needs to get their asses in gear with real statistics and testing.
NY is in a much different place, but they also have many different variables like population density and mass transit. NYC needs to be treated more seriously than elsewhere.
Wolfpacker009 said:Wayland said:
Just announced in the Governor's update...
29 people in the hospital with Corona (not ICU mind you that is likely much much smaller) ... 29 people IN THE WHOLE STATE.
We could so go to the SK method of testing, identifying, and isolating clusters as they happen. The fact that we are at a stay at home over 29 hospitalizations is kind of crazy.
The state needs to get their asses in gear with real statistics and testing.
NY is in a much different place, but they also have many different variables like population density and mass transit. NYC needs to be treated more seriously than elsewhere.
While I understand what you are saying, this tells me more that what we put in place is working. It also gives me some peace of mind as we're about to have our 4th child in May.
It's been very challenging being quarantined or whatever you want to call it, especially with young kids at home. However, I'd much rather have that than the alternatives we see elsewhere.
I totally agree, but this State has chosen a different route that will lead to long-term economic effects. The state of NC can use Test and Trace, separate from what other states do. Each county could also chose to do Test and Trace, separate from what the State does as a whole.Wayland said:
Just announced in the Governor's update...
29 people in the hospital with Corona (not ICU mind you that is likely much much smaller) ... 29 people IN THE WHOLE STATE.
We could so go to the SK method of testing, identifying, and isolating clusters as they happen. The fact that we are at a stay at home over 29 hospitalizations is kind of crazy.
The state needs to get their asses in gear with real statistics and testing.
NY is in a much different place, but they also have many different variables like population density and mass transit. NYC needs to be treated more seriously than elsewhere.
I agree and this is where we have a crisis of leadership in this area. They need to find a fast and effective test (like you point out California is using) and start using it nationwide. I just heard Winston-Salem has put stay at home orders in place (like Charlotte and Durham), even though they only have 15 confirmed cases (out of a 245,000 people) and no deaths. It goes into effect on Friday and runs to April 16. Yes, they shutdown all businesses (except those deemed essential) due to 0.006% of the population having a virus.RunsWithWolves26 said:
What would help this in response to freeing up resources is what Dr. Berx mentioned Monday. Having the ability to self test, swab for the virus. Another thing that would/will help is the company from CA sending out the test that gives results in 45 mins. So much CA be done but isn't or hasn't been done yet. Keeping everything shut down in the end, is going to cause a lot more hard then this virus will.
Daviewolf83 said:I agree and this is where we have a crisis of leadership in this area. They need to find a fast and effective test (like you point out California is using) and start using it nationwide. I just heard Winston-Salem has put stay at home orders in place (like Charlotte and Durham), even though they only have 15 confirmed cases (out of a 245,000 people) and no deaths. It goes into effect on Friday and runs to April 16. Yes, they shutdown all businesses (except those deemed essential) due to 0.006% of the population having a virus.RunsWithWolves26 said:
What would help this in response to freeing up resources is what Dr. Berx mentioned Monday. Having the ability to self test, swab for the virus. Another thing that would/will help is the company from CA sending out the test that gives results in 45 mins. So much CA be done but isn't or hasn't been done yet. Keeping everything shut down in the end, is going to cause a lot more hard then this virus will.
Yeah, I have no clue what this looks like. I hope it's in April but is it a state decision to go back? County? National companies probably won't be jumping the gun to open back up if there's not a wave of other's doing so.RunsWithWolves26 said:
My question is at what point is the decision made to open things back up? Does the curve have to start going down, level off, slow it's increase, etc? I mean, what is the point the government thinks they need to see to get the economy opened back up? Because this stimulus **** ain't gonna do it.
statefan91 said:Yeah, I have no clue what this looks like. I hope it's in April but is it a state decision to go back? County? National companies probably won't be jumping the gun to open back up if there's not a wave of other's doing so.RunsWithWolves26 said:
My question is at what point is the decision made to open things back up? Does the curve have to start going down, level off, slow it's increase, etc? I mean, what is the point the government thinks they need to see to get the economy opened back up? Because this stimulus **** ain't gonna do it.
The tipping point is when daily changes in the number of cases begins to decline. However, to know this with any accuracy, you have to test. Additionally, you have to Test and Trace as the lock-downs end and people begin to return to work. Quite frankly, the FDA needs to look to fast track testing methodologies that produce results in less than a day. I have not been impressed by the leaders of the FDA or the CDC through most of this crisis.RunsWithWolves26 said:Daviewolf83 said:I agree and this is where we have a crisis of leadership in this area. They need to find a fast and effective test (like you point out California is using) and start using it nationwide. I just heard Winston-Salem has put stay at home orders in place (like Charlotte and Durham), even though they only have 15 confirmed cases (out of a 245,000 people) and no deaths. It goes into effect on Friday and runs to April 16. Yes, they shutdown all businesses (except those deemed essential) due to 0.006% of the population having a virus.RunsWithWolves26 said:
What would help this in response to freeing up resources is what Dr. Berx mentioned Monday. Having the ability to self test, swab for the virus. Another thing that would/will help is the company from CA sending out the test that gives results in 45 mins. So much CA be done but isn't or hasn't been done yet. Keeping everything shut down in the end, is going to cause a lot more hard then this virus will.
Yep. At some point, something has to change. There has to be a tipping point.
Daviewolf83 said:The tipping point is when daily changes in the number of cases begins to decline. However, to know this with any accuracy, you have to test. Additionally, you have to Test and Trace as the lock-downs end and people begin to return to work. Quite frankly, the FDA needs to look to fast track testing methodologies that produce results in less than a day. I have not been impressed by the leaders of the FDA or the CDC through most of this crisis.RunsWithWolves26 said:Daviewolf83 said:I agree and this is where we have a crisis of leadership in this area. They need to find a fast and effective test (like you point out California is using) and start using it nationwide. I just heard Winston-Salem has put stay at home orders in place (like Charlotte and Durham), even though they only have 15 confirmed cases (out of a 245,000 people) and no deaths. It goes into effect on Friday and runs to April 16. Yes, they shutdown all businesses (except those deemed essential) due to 0.006% of the population having a virus.RunsWithWolves26 said:
What would help this in response to freeing up resources is what Dr. Berx mentioned Monday. Having the ability to self test, swab for the virus. Another thing that would/will help is the company from CA sending out the test that gives results in 45 mins. So much CA be done but isn't or hasn't been done yet. Keeping everything shut down in the end, is going to cause a lot more hard then this virus will.
Yep. At some point, something has to change. There has to be a tipping point.
statefan91 said:
Is there anything being reported from NC on the # of test kits available in NC? I would like to know if NC has enough test kits that anyone that should get a test can get one immediately? If not, why not?
