jkpackfan said:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/
Another good outcome. Hopefully this stuff works
First time I"ve really seen her, but thought she was outstanding at answering, while being deferential. Trump should have just stayed out of her way. She could even avoid answering the actual questions w/o making the media member feel like a fool. So much more pleasant (and informative) than to have to listen to TrumpRunsWithWolves26 said:
I may be alone in this, but I am a big fan of Dr. Berx. She knows her stuff, she explains it well and doesn't speak in what ifs and assumptions. Always good when she gets extended time answering questions.
I'd have to guess that news was like a collective ability to finally breathe out after holding our breath for a number of days. That's great to hear.statefan91 said:
Thank you to everyone for your responses, means a lot in these crazy times.
On that note, I'm pointing all good karma to WolfQuacker in hopes that his results are negative and he gets past whatever he has quickly.
Packchem91 said:First time I"ve really seen her, but thought she was outstanding at answering, while being deferential. Trump should have just stayed out of her way. She could even avoid answering the actual questions w/o making the media member feel like a fool. So much more pleasant (and informative) than to have to listen to TrumpRunsWithWolves26 said:
I may be alone in this, but I am a big fan of Dr. Berx. She knows her stuff, she explains it well and doesn't speak in what ifs and assumptions. Always good when she gets extended time answering questions.
It is anecdotal at this point, but some of the early results are promising. With clinical trials starting tomorrow, hopefully we will get some sound scientific results in a few weeks. I am hopeful it works and can help save people.jkpackfan said:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florida-man-with-coronavirus-says-drug-touted-by-trump-saved-his-life/
Another good outcome. Hopefully this stuff works
This was the same as China. The average age of deaths there was 80. I read an interesting article in The Atlantic this weekend that talks about how the virus is thought to work and why some segments of the population are more susceptible to getting seriously ill. You can read it here:RunsWithWolves26 said:
Dr berx just said the average age of a person who dies from this in Italy is around 80. I knew the population was older and that would contribute to the higher numbers but that was astounding to me to hear. That really says a lot about their numbers in Italy.
Daviewolf83 said:This was the same as China. The average age of deaths there was 80. I read an interesting article in The Atlantic this weekend that talks about how the virus is thought to work and why some segments of the population are more susceptible to getting seriously ill. You can read it here:RunsWithWolves26 said:
Dr berx just said the average age of a person who dies from this in Italy is around 80. I knew the population was older and that would contribute to the higher numbers but that was astounding to me to hear. That really says a lot about their numbers in Italy.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/03/biography-new-coronavirus/608338/
packgrad said:
I just don't see test and trace working here. Personally, I would be fine with it if it meant we could get people back to work. Libertarians (especially), Republicans, and Democrats (especially as it could be used on illegal aliens) are not going to agree with relaxing civil liberties that allow the government to track all of your movements. I know the argument will be that they can anyway. But nobody will want to give them that authority as it is a slippery slope. We can't even get a stimulus through, that was agreed to in principal, before the Speaker returned to town. Additionally, the problem isn't the same throughout the country. I don't think our problem, and handling of the problem, should be the same as NYC. Obviously our governor disagrees with me, but I think he's a feckless fool.
Our economy is wrecked now. We seem to be doing all we can do to continue to destroy it.
He drank fish tank cleaner that was not meant for human consumption.Glasswolf said:
https://www.wral.com/arizona-man-dies-after-self-medicating-with-chloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus/19026003/
I know, but people listen to what our leaders say. No way most would have done it...They just saw ChloroquineDaviewolf83 said:He drank fish tank cleaner that was not meant for human consumption.Glasswolf said:
https://www.wral.com/arizona-man-dies-after-self-medicating-with-chloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus/19026003/
I actually lean libertarian, but am willing to be pragmatic when faced with unusual situations. In this case, if it is a choice between getting life back to normal in a month versus staying in lock-down for several months, I would support Test and Trace. Until a vaccine is developed or a more effective treatment is found, it seems to be our best hope. Otherwise, coming out of the lock-down with no treatment measures or further, enhanced testing is likely to just see the virus flair back up.packgrad said:
I just don't see test and trace working here. Personally, I would be fine with it if it meant we could get people back to work. Libertarians (especially), Republicans, and Democrats (especially as it could be used on illegal aliens) are not going to agree with relaxing civil liberties that allow the government to track all of your movements. I know the argument will be that they can anyway. But nobody will want to give them that authority as it is a slippery slope. We can't even get a stimulus through, that was agreed to in principal, before the Speaker returned to town. Additionally, the problem isn't the same throughout the country. I don't think our problem, and handling of the problem, should be the same as NYC. Obviously our governor disagrees with me, but I think he's a feckless fool.
Our economy is wrecked now. We seem to be doing all we can do to continue to destroy it.
Daviewolf83 said:He drank fish tank cleaner that was not meant for human consumption.Glasswolf said:
https://www.wral.com/arizona-man-dies-after-self-medicating-with-chloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus/19026003/
I think if the honest media was actually the rule instead of the exception this would solve alot of our problems politically in the country.packgrad said:Daviewolf83 said:He drank fish tank cleaner that was not meant for human consumption.Glasswolf said:
https://www.wral.com/arizona-man-dies-after-self-medicating-with-chloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus/19026003/
This is one of the many daily articles that give Trump ammo when he cries "Fake News". Everything is Trump to blame.
cowboypack02 said:I think if the honest media was actually the rule instead of the exception this would solve alot of our problems politically in the country.packgrad said:Daviewolf83 said:He drank fish tank cleaner that was not meant for human consumption.Glasswolf said:
https://www.wral.com/arizona-man-dies-after-self-medicating-with-chloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus/19026003/
This is one of the many daily articles that give Trump ammo when he cries "Fake News". Everything is Trump to blame.
Ground_Chuck said:
410 cases in NC, 46,000 cases nationwide.
We will probably 80k cases by end of week.
RunsWithWolves26 said:Ground_Chuck said:
410 cases in NC, 46,000 cases nationwide.
We will probably 80k cases by end of week.
Right on track then. Dr. Berx said last week they expected cases to be between 50,000-150,000
Ground_Chuck said:RunsWithWolves26 said:Ground_Chuck said:
410 cases in NC, 46,000 cases nationwide.
We will probably 80k cases by end of week.
Right on track then. Dr. Berx said last week they expected cases to be between 50,000-150,000
By the end of the month or total?
Yep - I've been taking long walks to get some peace away from the kids and everything while they're napping and I've seen crews doing drain work in people's yard and painting and all sorts.Bas2020 said:
Certain sectors have not stopped in all this . Just drive through a new construction development in Wendell and there are contractors all over the place . All working as usual .
Bas2020 said:
Certain sectors have not stopped in all this . Just drive through a new construction development in Wendell and there are contractors all over the place . All working as usual .
packgrad said:Bas2020 said:
Certain sectors have not stopped in all this . Just drive through a new construction development in Wendell and there are contractors all over the place . All working as usual .
Two segments of our business have been affected. The segments that do work in retail upfits and apartment capital improvement projects. Both have had customers shut down work for as little as 60 days up to indefinitely. Other segments are business as usual.
We must be in very different parts of the triangle because that is not true at all. My wife drives from Cary to Durham each day and estimates that cars on the road are down 60%.Bas2020 said:packgrad said:Bas2020 said:
Certain sectors have not stopped in all this . Just drive through a new construction development in Wendell and there are contractors all over the place . All working as usual .
Two segments of our business have been affected. The segments that do work in retail upfits and apartment capital improvement projects. Both have had customers shut down work for as little as 60 days up to indefinitely. Other segments are business as usual.
FWIW traffic all over the triangle is as bad as it usually is . In my just 2 eyed opinion 80% of us are still working . Mom & the kids home .
RunsWithWolves26 said:
So far today, the total number of cases and total number of deaths is down from yesterday. Still more time to go today so we shall see what happens
IseWolf22 said:RunsWithWolves26 said:
So far today, the total number of cases and total number of deaths is down from yesterday. Still more time to go today so we shall see what happens
I've been monitoring the past week or so and it seems like most numbers are added in the afternoon and evening. I'll see small increases until 2-5 PM then next morning the increase looking back the day before will be large.
