Do you think the reasoning for not updating that is as purposeful as I do?
Just a guy on the sunshine squad.
"Dr. Mandy Cohen says current research is encouraging:"statefan91 said:
Governor Cooper delays his announcement on school plans. School starts in like...7 weeks...nothing like cutting it close:
Civilized said:Tootie4Pack said:Mormad said:
My dad owned Jerry's grill on east Whitaker mill in Raleigh for 40 yrs (all you that didn't give it a try really missed out, my mom made so much of it homemade it was ridiculous), and he barely survived the Carter presidency, but he'd have NEVER survived this crap. Really tough business, even when things are clicking. Good luck to you.
Your Dad owned Jerry's Grill ? What a small world. Many years ago , as my Dad was getting ready to retire from the working for the State, he got into the pay phone business to keep him busy and make a little income. He had the pay phone at Jerry's for many years. I would help him and remember going there many times over those years. And you are right , as I recall the food was very, very good !!
One of the best burgers in Raleigh! Love that place and the heritage your mom and dad created!
Was your dad the owner up until it was sold in the last couple of years, or was there another ownership change before that?
Tootie4Pack said:Mormad said:Tobaccoroadsportscafe said:Mormad said:
Everybody has to have an agenda. Had a local restaurant owner tell me they were likely not to make it because their dining area is small so can't have many patrons in house, but so many "people are angry that we opened the dining area" that their take out business declined greatly. What is wrong with people? I swear people just want to be angry about something. Does it make people feel better to constantly disagree and make silly irrational choices because of it???
The situation is pretty bleak for locally owned restaurants. We're doing about 30% of normal business and I don't think it's going to get much better this year. Staff doesn't really want to come back to work yet either, and I can't really blame them.
My dad owned Jerry's grill on east Whitaker mill in Raleigh for 40 yrs (all you that didn't give it a try really missed out, my mom made so much of it homemade it was ridiculous), and he barely survived the Carter presidency, but he'd have NEVER survived this crap. Really tough business, even when things are clicking. Good luck to you.
Your Dad owned Jerry's Grill ? What a small world. Many years ago , as my Dad was getting ready to retire from the working for the State, he got into the pay phone business to keep him busy and make a little income. He had the pay phone at Jerry's for many years. I would help him and remember going there many times over those years. And you are right , as I recall the food was very, very good !!
NC is really behind on their CDC reporting and hasn't shown a non-weighted week yet with excess deaths. I expect to see some in May.acslater1344 said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html
Would love to know this type of information for NC specifically. Interesting that excess deaths are up nationwide even after considering all deaths attributed to COVID.
"The 781,000 total deaths in the United States in the three months through May 30 were about 122,300, or nearly 19% higher, than what would normally be expected, according to the researchers. Of the 122,300 excess deaths, 95,235 were attributed to Covid-19, they said. Most of the rest of the excess deaths, researchers said, were likely related to or directly caused by the coronavirus."
I absolutely agree and it's sad.RunsWithWolves26 said:Everpack said:
No one has bothered to answer the question of how long we wear masks? What is our finish line?
November. There's something big happening then and depending on the outcome of that, it will dictate if this virus is terrible or not so bad.
wilmwolf80 said:If you just want my unfiltered personal opinion. I don't disagree with it on merit necessarily, though I do have misgivings about it because I see that wearing masks causes people to have a false sense of security and disregard social distancing, but I do disagree with the implementation of it. I feel that like all of the directives, it lacks definition,and leaves too much to interpretation. If you are going to require masks indoors, just require masks indoors. I also feel that if you think there is a solid scientific basis for requiring masks, then why wasn't that implemented at the start of Phase 2? That science hasn't changed since we moved to Phase 2.Civilized said:wilmwolf80 said:
Why does it matter if I agree with it if I'm complying?
I wasn't being critical, I was just curious.
It's always interesting to hear how people would handle tough issues if they were the ones making decisions about policy.
With pretty much all of the decisions that have been made, I feel that NC is just copying other states rather than using the data in our own state to make real, informed decisions. In my opinion, Cooper didn't want to go to Phase 3 for July 4th, because we went to Phase 2 at Memorial Day, and it wasn't good optics to have people gathering and partying on the holiday weekend. I believe the mask mandate, and the questionable reporting of numbers leading up to the decision to extend Phase 2, were used to justify a decision to try and help curtail social gatherings on what is the biggest social gathering day of the summer.
I remain skeptical that any of the measures that we have taken have had any meaningful impact on the spread of the virus, mainly because everything we have done has been woefully unsuccessful in stopping the transmission of the virus to the most vulnerable parts of our population. Rather than broad, sweeping orders that put so many of people out of work, I would have preferred detailed, aggressive measures to stop the spread to long term care facilities, processing plants, etc. Fully two thirds of the deaths in this state have occurred in congregate facilities, places that we knew at the start were vulnerable. How much different do our charts and graphs look if we devoted the resources necessary to lock down those facilities, test heavily in those areas, contract trace employees and patients alike when positive cases happen to stop whole facilities from having outbreaks? As I've written in this thread multiple times, I don't fault the decisions that were made in the early days of the virus, but once you have clear data as to where the problem spots are, focus your efforts there.
Well, yesterday's raw numbers show 1843 Newly Reported Confirmed Cases / 32,205 Newly Reported Completed Tests = 5.72% second day in a row that we are WELL BELOW the running average of 7.059%.Wayland said:
Cohen implied last night on UNC TV that we are going to see hospitalizations go up again in the next numbers.
It is past time that the DHHS provides a breakdown of hospitalizations both by criticality and by region.
What did you think of 32,205 Newly Reported Tests for a single day?Wayland said:
CLI Surveillance comes out today, so we will get a little window into that.
But there are a lot of news reports elsewhere of covid positive non covid patients counting in the census and NC says they do the same. Which again goes into why that number needs to be broken down further.
Even with the increase, Cohen does say there is no immediate cause for alarm.
Data management at DHHS is a mess, but that is the second time in two weeks they have done weird things with data on a Cooper talking day.TheStorm said:What did you think of 32,205 Newly Reported Tests for a single day?Wayland said:
CLI Surveillance comes out today, so we will get a little window into that.
But there are a lot of news reports elsewhere of covid positive non covid patients counting in the census and NC says they do the same. Which again goes into why that number needs to be broken down further.
Even with the increase, Cohen does say there is no immediate cause for alarm.
Wayland said:Data management at DHHS is a mess, but that is the second time in two weeks they have done weird things with data on a Cooper talking day.TheStorm said:What did you think of 32,205 Newly Reported Tests for a single day?Wayland said:
CLI Surveillance comes out today, so we will get a little window into that.
But there are a lot of news reports elsewhere of covid positive non covid patients counting in the census and NC says they do the same. Which again goes into why that number needs to be broken down further.
Even with the increase, Cohen does say there is no immediate cause for alarm.
7/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)Wayland said:7/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)Quote:
6/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)
NC Cases
63,484
NC Deaths
1343
Currently Hospitalized
908 <- 90% reporting (was 843 at 75% yesterday) Higher#, Higher%. Still stable
Completed Tests
910,033
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804 Deaths are now Congregate (+8)
146 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+18 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
393 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
950 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
216 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+6)
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WRAL is at 1366* deaths
1186 positive cases over 23,728 new tests. 5.0% positive rate.
DHHS says they only added 18,676 completed tests, but the actual delta is 23,728 since yesterday.
NC Cases
66,513
NC Deaths
1373
Currently Hospitalized
901 <- 86% reporting (was 908 at 90% yesterday) Lower#, Lower%. Still stable
Completed Tests
942,238
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819 Deaths are now Congregate (+15)
147 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
407 Deaths assumed General Population (+14)
966 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
212 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
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WRAL is at 1376* deaths
1843 positive cases over 32,205 new tests. 5.7% positive rate.
I still think an undertold storyline in all the metrics is the impact on the Hispanic / Latino population. Seems like many of the geographies we are now hearing about huge numbers happen to also large Latino populations.Mormad said:
Maybe so because people aren't playing nicely here IMHO. We have a much higher LTC population than both per capita, and we had the Montagnard and Hispanic hits I think. Deaths are high but 50 percent died outside the facility, which suggests a hit to the sick/ dying/ low QOL, DNR population. Glad we're stable, but the Triad won't push policy IMHO. Gonna be meck and wake.
Vacation season baby!BruceDouble said:
Testing numbers have to be jumping fast right now. Last week I had employees getting results back in 3 days. This week, they've told a couple people it could be 8 days. Are labs getting backed up that bad right now?
I'm in sales with a company that provides services to the hospitality industry. It's not looking good for a lot of people I work with.Tobaccoroadsportscafe said:Mormad said:
Everybody has to have an agenda. Had a local restaurant owner tell me they were likely not to make it because their dining area is small so can't have many patrons in house, but so many "people are angry that we opened the dining area" that their take out business declined greatly. What is wrong with people? I swear people just want to be angry about something. Does it make people feel better to constantly disagree and make silly irrational choices because of it???
The situation is pretty bleak for locally owned restaurants. We're doing about 30% of normal business and I don't think it's going to get much better this year. Staff doesn't really want to come back to work yet either, and I can't really blame them.
Mormad said:
We're up to 56 in house, 9 in ICU, 4 tubed. We're reporting between 111 and 115 dead, with 53 dying in the hospital.
We're doing pretty well! Thanks for asking. My gf still has some lingering coughing issues that come on at night when we're trying to get to sleep, but otherwise everything is back to normal. June was a strange month.PackMom said:
Acslater, how are you and your girlfriend doing?