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In reply to Glasswolf • 6:47p, 5/18/25
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It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
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8:02p, 5/18/25
As the incumbent candidate, Hart is the only good, in-demand coach who would accept the job without it being conditional on an additional $20M investment into the stadium and NIL budget. A factor for Corrigan to consider
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In reply to James Henderson • 9:18p, 5/18/25
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kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
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PGAWolf said:
James Henderson said:
PGAWolf said:
James Henderson said:
PGAWolf said:
James Henderson said:
kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


Haha we can settle this debate once and for all. The D1baseball website does a weekly chat on mondays where you can ask questions. I'll ask their opinion on Conference titles vs Omaha
What's there to settle? I've been referring all along to determining who watches 5 games a year. Not sure what D1Baseball has to do with that.


So you deny being of the mindset that an ACC Title is better than making it to Omaha?

If so I will retract my comment.

But if not. I say let's take it to the most respected source of information in College Baseball and see what the guys at D1 think.
Again, I don't know what that has to do with watching 5 games a year.

I don't consider a CWS a title, I consider it what it is, an Elite 8, but in baseball it's a bigger accomplishment than a conference title.
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SportManagementEngineer said:
James Henderson said:
kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.
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In reply to James Henderson • 11:46p, 5/18/25
James Henderson said:
SportManagementEngineer said:
James Henderson said:
kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

That's a weird take to me. Most of the fans complaining on X, here, there, anywhere, can't name 10 players on the team and it's because they don't watch. It's fair weather fandom. And yeah, personally, it is hard to listen to someone complain who didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago.
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12:24a, 5/19/25
Idk why you would watch every game when Avent's teams always have a song they play to - every season there's a stretch they go into where they are god awful and cannot beat anyone, then they counteract that by getting hot and going on a run where they can beat anyone (unless it's for the ACC Title, but that makes sense now that we know he doesnt care)

It's just a matter of where that dice roll lands at the end of the year
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In reply to James Henderson • 12:26a, 5/19/25
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
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pack2010 said:
James Henderson said:
SportManagementEngineer said:
James Henderson said:
kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

That's a weird take to me. Most of the fans complaining on X, here, there, anywhere, can't name 10 players on the team and it's because they don't watch. It's fair weather fandom. And yeah, personally, it is hard to listen to someone complain who didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago.
But a lot of fans "complain" who do watch almost every game. I find it funny though it's complaining when simply it's thinking you can do things differently to be even better.

I guess I just can't figure out which poster didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago like others seem to be able to.
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Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
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In reply to James Henderson • 9:00a
James Henderson said:
SportManagementEngineer said:
James Henderson said:
kmb717 said:
StateFan2001 said:
There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

How many games people watch or how many game threads they post in shouldn't matter, you're right. We don't need to apply purity tests to be "good fans."

But whatever the reason for it, some fans' irrational myopia about Avent and the success he's had and the circumstances he's had it in is ridiculous and there's no other way to say it.
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In reply to James Henderson • 9:02a
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GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ

I am sure others feel differently.
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StateFan2001 said:
James Henderson said:
GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
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Rob McLamb said:
StateFan2001 said:
James Henderson said:
GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
Plus under some circumstances you can win the ACCT and be sent somewhere as a 2 /3 seed depending on your RPI during the season.
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Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.
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In reply to Rob McLamb • 9:56a
Rob McLamb said:
StateFan2001 said:
James Henderson said:
GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.


I would put winning the yearly series against UNC and Wake when we play them, above having the best record in the ACC. Especially with not every team playing each other.
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Cthepack said:
Rob McLamb said:
StateFan2001 said:
James Henderson said:
GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.


I would put winning the yearly series against UNC and Wake when we play them, above having the best record in the ACC. Especially with not every team playing each other.
My Take...

1. CWS Title
2. CWS Appearance (Super Regional Champ)
3. ACC Tournament Champ
4. Regular Season ACC Champ
5. Series W over UNC
6. Regional Champ
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It's much harder to Win the ACC tournament this year than
A regional and I would also say super regional…
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Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
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In reply to FourOaksWolf • 10:34a
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be a challenge at all. It is one of the premier jobs in college baseball. There are probably 14 great jobs in the SEC, 11 in the ACC, and maybe 4-5 others. That's 30 really good jobs of which State is one of them and not toward the bottom of the 30 regardless of facilities. Now, where the next hire will challenge the administration is with rev share and NIL as would be the case anywhere. We have to step up in these areas for baseball.
And yes, I am all for blowing up the Doak and starting over. College baseball is a growing sport.
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Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
StateFan2001 said:
James Henderson said:
GoPack7623 said:
Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
Plus under some circumstances you can win the ACCT and be sent somewhere as a 2 /3 seed depending on your RPI during the season.
Yeah you can make the CWS without ever leaving Raleigh or playing a ranked team.
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Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ
I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.


I would put winning the yearly series against UNC and Wake when we play them, above having the best record in the ACC. Especially with not every team playing each other.
That's wild to me, but to each his own.

Do you feel the same way in basketball?
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It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be difficult, interesting for sure, you're right about that.

Chris Hart would be my top choice, b/c I think he's an excellent coach, stud recruiter and knows the program inside and out as he's doing the heavy lifting now.

Josh Jordan, assistant at LSU would be a home run hire if we didn't go the Hart route. He's from Gastonia, coached at App and duke and was also the recruiting coordinator everywhere he's been, including LSU. Great dude too.

Mike Glavine, HC at Northeastern. Pack2010 brought him up and he's definitely a great coach and has Northeastern humming right along. He's only coached at Northeastern, nowhere else in his coaching career. That's scary.

Dan Fitzgerald, HC at Kansas. He's got a lot of JUCO experience, which I like. He was at Dallas Baptist for a while as RC and AHC his last couple years there before going to LSU for a year. Recurring theme, but he's a good recruiter as he's shown as Recruiting Coordinator at DBU, LSU and now Kansas. He's coached Kansas to their first top 25 ranking in like 11 years. Very good coach.

I'm willing to bet there will be lots of interest in the job when it does open up.
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I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.
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I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.


Exactly. The CWS appearance is the pinnacle of college baseball. There aren't three people on this entire board that can tell you who the last three ACC baseball champions are without Googling.
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FourOaksWolf said:
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FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
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It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be difficult, interesting for sure, you're right about that.

Chris Hart would be my top choice, b/c I think he's an excellent coach, stud recruiter and knows the program inside and out as he's doing the heavy lifting now.

Josh Jordan, assistant at LSU would be a home run hire if we didn't go the Hart route. He's from Gastonia, coached at App and duke and was also the recruiting coordinator everywhere he's been, including LSU. Great dude too.

Mike Glavine, HC at Northeastern. Pack2010 brought him up and he's definitely a great coach and has Northeastern humming right along. He's only coached at Northeastern, nowhere else in his coaching career. That's scary.

Dan Fitzgerald, HC at Kansas. He's got a lot of JUCO experience, which I like. He was at Dallas Baptist for a while as RC and AHC his last couple years there before going to LSU for a year. Recurring theme, but he's a good recruiter as he's shown as Recruiting Coordinator at DBU, LSU and now Kansas. He's coached Kansas to their first top 25 ranking in like 11 years. Very good coach.

I'm willing to bet there will be lots of interest in the job when it does open up.
Hart or Jordan would be HR hires. But Hart needs the first interview and a serious look. I still don't think Avent retires before the Doak renovations are complete. He really wants to see them completed.
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Jtilley said:
I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.


Exactly. The CWS appearance is the pinnacle of college baseball. There aren't three people on this entire board that can tell you who the last three ACC baseball champions are without Googling.


Can you name all the ACC teams that made one of the last 3 CWS?
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I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.


Exactly. The CWS appearance is the pinnacle of college baseball. There aren't three people on this entire board that can tell you who the last three ACC baseball champions are without Googling.



I could tell you without Googling, but you're still 100 percent correct. Give me a chance to go to Omaha on a regular basis and I'm quite happy.
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I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.


Exactly. The CWS appearance is the pinnacle of college baseball. There aren't three people on this entire board that can tell you who the last three ACC baseball champions are without Googling.


Can you name all the ACC teams that made one of the last 3 CWS?
I would be pretty close I think, including when ND went with Link.
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FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
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It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be a challenge at all. It is one of the premier jobs in college baseball. There are probably 14 great jobs in the SEC, 11 in the ACC, and maybe 4-5 others. That's 30 really good jobs of which State is one of them and not toward the bottom of the 30 regardless of facilities. Now, where the next hire will challenge the administration is with rev share and NIL as would be the case anywhere. We have to step up in these areas for baseball.
And yes, I am all for blowing up the Doak and starting over. College baseball is a growing sport.


I hope the next baseball hiring will be an attractive draw. , but with any other sport these days one of the first question a candidate will ask is how much do you have for NIL. Right now, it' sounds pretty poor and potentially cause a problem in hiring a desired candidate.
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I have worked basically every other ACC tournament going back 15 years and I can only remember who won a handful of times and sure as hell couldn't tell you who won the regular season tittle.

Every coach and player is taking a trip to Omaho over any confrence tittle 100 out of 100 times.


Right. This is the correct take. Anyone who disagrees is out of touch with the landscape of college baseball.

Calling Omaha an Elite 8 appearance is such an over simplification. That would be like saying golf is just hitting a little white ball around a field. I can't tell you are wrong, but it is such much more than that.

That's why I get so frustrated when people try to discredit Avent. We have been so lucky to have him.
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StateFan2001 said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be a challenge at all. It is one of the premier jobs in college baseball. There are probably 14 great jobs in the SEC, 11 in the ACC, and maybe 4-5 others. That's 30 really good jobs of which State is one of them and not toward the bottom of the 30 regardless of facilities. Now, where the next hire will challenge the administration is with rev share and NIL as would be the case anywhere. We have to step up in these areas for baseball.
And yes, I am all for blowing up the Doak and starting over. College baseball is a growing sport.


I hope the next baseball hiring will be an attractive draw. , but with any other sport these days one of the first question a candidate will ask is how much do you have for NIL. Right now, it' sounds pretty poor and potentially cause a problem in hiring a desired candidate.
Don't quote me on this but I want to say Steve mentioned something about the collective tried to set up an NIL fundraiser deal but it wasn't met with much "interest" for lack of a better term from the coaching side.

I might have it wrong tho.
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CLTWolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
StateFan2001 said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be a challenge at all. It is one of the premier jobs in college baseball. There are probably 14 great jobs in the SEC, 11 in the ACC, and maybe 4-5 others. That's 30 really good jobs of which State is one of them and not toward the bottom of the 30 regardless of facilities. Now, where the next hire will challenge the administration is with rev share and NIL as would be the case anywhere. We have to step up in these areas for baseball.
And yes, I am all for blowing up the Doak and starting over. College baseball is a growing sport.


I hope the next baseball hiring will be an attractive draw. , but with any other sport these days one of the first question a candidate will ask is how much do you have for NIL. Right now, it' sounds pretty poor and potentially cause a problem in hiring a desired candidate.
Don't quote me on this but I want to say Steve mentioned something about the collective tried to set up an NIL fundraiser deal but it wasn't met with much "interest" for lack of a better term from the coaching side.

I might have it wrong tho.
You got it right. Pretty frustrating to not capitalize off the past year. Could only speculate, but not having a "first pitch" dinner or an evening along the lines of what Football & Basketball do left a bunch of money off the table.
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FourOaksWolf said:
StateFan2001 said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
FourOaksWolf said:
Glasswolf said:
Rob McLamb said:
It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.


Same source stated that Avent wanted to name Hart publicly as the next coach, but Boo would not agree to it.

Regardless, as stated on this thread, with our NIL funding and mediocre facilities, it's going to be a challenge to find a coach outside of our program. Will be interesting to see.
I don't think it will be a challenge at all. It is one of the premier jobs in college baseball. There are probably 14 great jobs in the SEC, 11 in the ACC, and maybe 4-5 others. That's 30 really good jobs of which State is one of them and not toward the bottom of the 30 regardless of facilities. Now, where the next hire will challenge the administration is with rev share and NIL as would be the case anywhere. We have to step up in these areas for baseball.
And yes, I am all for blowing up the Doak and starting over. College baseball is a growing sport.


I hope the next baseball hiring will be an attractive draw. , but with any other sport these days one of the first question a candidate will ask is how much do you have for NIL. Right now, it' sounds pretty poor and potentially cause a problem in hiring a desired candidate.


I think it is fair to say the job is a very good one but yes we need more investment on multiple fronts.
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There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.

I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

That's a weird take to me. Most of the fans complaining on X, here, there, anywhere, can't name 10 players on the team and it's because they don't watch. It's fair weather fandom. And yeah, personally, it is hard to listen to someone complain who didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago.
But a lot of fans "complain" who do watch almost every game. I find it funny though it's complaining when simply it's thinking you can do things differently to be even better.

I guess I just can't figure out which poster didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago like others seem to be able to.

i am not talking about particular posters, I mean people who complain in general and why it should matter how many games they watch (or even listen to).

The best way I can put it is this: I am not a hockey fan (don't come at me, playoff hockey is great). I will watch 4-5 Canes a season, mostly being in the postseason. Imagine after every loss I went on forums/X/etc and said "Wow why didn't coach leave #12 in?" "Dang I can't believe #10 lost that game for us!" "Sheesh the line changes for coach was horrible, that isn't okay!". IMO I would be in no right to go and complain if I have no idea the roster, or how they have played the entire season. THAT is why it matters how many games a season the fan watches.

If you want to be casual and enjoy the ride (like me and the Canes), do it. But don't become critical and complain when you don't know the basics of what you are watching.
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