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Glasswolf said:

Rob McLamb said:

It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
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As the incumbent candidate, Hart is the only good, in-demand coach who would accept the job without it being conditional on an additional $20M investment into the stadium and NIL budget. A factor for Corrigan to consider
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James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
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PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

PGAWolf said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.


I'll give you your first clue. If you value a conference title over a trip to Omaha…
Right, that means you don't watch. Sniff.


Haha we can settle this debate once and for all. The D1baseball website does a weekly chat on mondays where you can ask questions. I'll ask their opinion on Conference titles vs Omaha
What's there to settle? I've been referring all along to determining who watches 5 games a year. Not sure what D1Baseball has to do with that.


So you deny being of the mindset that an ACC Title is better than making it to Omaha?

If so I will retract my comment.

But if not. I say let's take it to the most respected source of information in College Baseball and see what the guys at D1 think.
Again, I don't know what that has to do with watching 5 games a year.

I don't consider a CWS a title, I consider it what it is, an Elite 8, but in baseball it's a bigger accomplishment than a conference title.
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SportManagementEngineer said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.
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James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

That's a weird take to me. Most of the fans complaining on X, here, there, anywhere, can't name 10 players on the team and it's because they don't watch. It's fair weather fandom. And yeah, personally, it is hard to listen to someone complain who didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago.
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Idk why you would watch every game when Avent's teams always have a song they play to - every season there's a stretch they go into where they are god awful and cannot beat anyone, then they counteract that by getting hot and going on a run where they can beat anyone (unless it's for the ACC Title, but that makes sense now that we know he doesnt care)

It's just a matter of where that dice roll lands at the end of the year
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Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
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pack2010 said:

James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

That's a weird take to me. Most of the fans complaining on X, here, there, anywhere, can't name 10 players on the team and it's because they don't watch. It's fair weather fandom. And yeah, personally, it is hard to listen to someone complain who didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago.
But a lot of fans "complain" who do watch almost every game. I find it funny though it's complaining when simply it's thinking you can do things differently to be even better.

I guess I just can't figure out which poster didn't know who the Friday night pitcher was until 3 weeks ago like others seem to be able to.
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GoPack7623 said:

Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
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James Henderson said:

SportManagementEngineer said:

James Henderson said:

kmb717 said:

StateFan2001 said:

There is no reason to go into a hatchet job on EA. EA has largely done a very nice job in his career at State. Are there some things where I feel he falls short - yes for sure. But all in all EA has had a very nice career at State. And I agree with the poster above, outside of pitching, this isn't a championship level roster this year.


Very nice is a massive understatement. EA is an NC State legend and what he's done with this program the past 20+ years is nothing short of remarkable given the lack of investment he's received.

These last 2 games were all time clunkers no doubt. And the fact he hasn't won an ACC title, regular season or tourney, is nothing short of just a baseball fluke.

The EA slander from posters who watch 5 games a year is beyond comical. Ranked in the top 25 every year, make the postseason every year, 3 times to Omaha, and straight up robbed of a national title in one of the biggest injustices in sports history.

We should name the field after him whenever he decides to retire.


I often wonder how we determine who watches 5 games a year.
In this case, the baseball board has pretty much the same few posters every week whether its a game thread for a Tuesday against UNCW or a weekend conference series. As we get into May, a bunch of new faces show up to complain after State loses (usually in the ACC Tournament, but they came out a few days early this season).
I think some just choose to post more in the threads when the games get even bigger.

I watch or listen to every single game that's available to listen to or watch, but I don't post in every in-game thread throughout the course of the season.

It's a forum, folks want to give their opinions on topics whether they posted earlier in the year or not. I just don't understand why how many games a person watches should matter. I bet there's a lot of fans/media watching a lot of games across sports who don't have a real clue about what they're watching.

How many games people watch or how many game threads they post in shouldn't matter, you're right. We don't need to apply purity tests to be "good fans."

But whatever the reason for it, some fans' irrational myopia about Avent and the success he's had and the circumstances he's had it in is ridiculous and there's no other way to say it.
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James Henderson said:

GoPack7623 said:

Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ

I am sure others feel differently.
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StateFan2001 said:

James Henderson said:

GoPack7623 said:

Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ

I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
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Rob McLamb said:

StateFan2001 said:

James Henderson said:

GoPack7623 said:

Can someone point to the post where someone said a regular season conference title is more prestigious than a trip to Omaha?

Why is it so hard for people to understand that two things can be true? Obviously, Omaha is a bigger accomplishment, doesn't mean winning a regular season or conference tournament are unimportant.

Here is a thought. Win em all! Oh and don't tell everyone in an interview that you don't care about a conference title.

Doing so very much seems like a coping mechanism because your team choked away yet another chance at your first championship in nearly 30 years of coaching.
Correct, as as competitor, strive to win every single title you can.

You can't compete for Omaha in March/April/May.
I think what you are saying is true. I just think the discussion turned to how things are prioritized in baseball. For me, I would go
CWS title
Super Regional win
Regional Win
ACC Tournament champ
Reg season champ

I agree with this. Others do not have to, but I do.

If I am NC State, or any other school, I take a Super Regionals appearance (no guarantee of a win there) over both types of conference titles. If my team is in Supers, it has a 50 percent chance of getting to Omaha. Sign me up for that every time.
Plus under some circumstances you can win the ACCT and be sent somewhere as a 2 /3 seed depending on your RPI during the season.
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FourOaksWolf said:

Glasswolf said:

Rob McLamb said:

It would be criminal if Chris Hart is not the next head coach at NC State. The length of his tenure goes lock-step with NCSU's baseball coach lineage. Consistency in leadership since WWII has been the Wolfpack's greatest strength.

If I'm Avent, when I decide to finally walk, I would make sure Hart gets the job for at least one season by quitting in late-January. That way, Hart, at minimum, would get a portion of the chance that he deserves.
Hart deserves a chance. He has stayed 100% loyal to Avent and NC State


From a source from within the program, Hart will have a chance but he has no guaranties.
As it should be. Boo should understand that the next hire will set the tone for everything baseball for the next several years.
 
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