Pack 9 33-18 (17-11) vs. Stanford 27-24 (11-19) GM 1 W 7-2 GM 2 L 4-3 GM 3 L 6-3

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ChemE94 said:

Wow. FSU did it. One effing win in the last two days and we win the acc.
One of Avent's biggest chokes for sure to win a championship.
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CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ChemE94 said:

This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.


I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
only thing is the stats say you're wrong...


Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).


Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?

just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?

as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha


I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.

And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.

Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lol

Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..

This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.

If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.

Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.

Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.


This team is hitting .289 with 63 homers


23 hit .298, 92 hrs
22 hit .294, 101 Hrs

Come on man.

look at the conference stats dude. lol

and my bad, I didn't realize those were the only stats that counted for anything.

You win. Go be mad about how shtty this team is that's getting a double bye in the conference tourney.


Again I ask my original question. Which team over the past 10 years do you think this lineup would out hit?
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PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ChemE94 said:

This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.


I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
only thing is the stats say you're wrong...


Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).


Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?

just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?

as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha


I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.

And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.

Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lol

Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..

This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.

If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.

Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.

Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.


This team is hitting .289 with 63 homers


23 hit .298, 92 hrs
22 hit .294, 101 Hrs

Come on man.

look at the conference stats dude. lol

and my bad, I didn't realize those were the only stats that counted for anything.

You win. Go be mad about how shtty this team is that's getting a double bye in the conference tourney.


Again I ask my original question. Which team over the past 10 years do you think this lineup would out hit?

What does "out hit" even mean? lol
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SeaWolf said:

So are my calculations correct, if GT hangs on to beat Duke , they get the #1 seed, the Cheats at #2, FSU at #3 and the Pack at #4?
Bingo
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Anybody know which dugout higher seed is using in Durham?
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StateFan2001 said:

Nairo said:

We will become a warm weather Boston College. What Avent has done given what we provide him is nothing short of remarkable

ChemE94 said:

RaisedByWolves said:

I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.


With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.



Except that there is a ton of talent in NC and barely any in Mass.


We are barely getting nc talent that matters right now.
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CLTWolf said:

griff17matt said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ChemE94 said:

This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.


I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
only thing is the stats say you're wrong...


Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).


Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?



Don't know why everyone does this with CLT like it'll ever be a productive conversation. He'll just say inane, troll bull**** until you lose your cool and then he gets to claim a victory because he'll offer you an internet hug bc you're big mad. He's the Ovies of the boards. Don't feed the trolls.
yeah, it's super fun when I prove dudes like you wrong with stats and sht.

The gatekeeper has spoken guys, griff has put his foot down against mean ol CLT. lol


Sorry, Bubba. Didn't mean to gatekeep your trolling, I guess? I'll go roll around in the grass so I can atone for my transgression. I'm super glad you're here to keep everyone's opinions in check.
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Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!
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DanielWilsonIPS said:

SeaWolf said:

So are my calculations correct, if GT hangs on to beat Duke , they get the #1 seed, the Cheats at #2, FSU at #3 and the Pack at #4?
Bingo


Thanks for the verification. So the silver lining to this crappy weekend is the #4 seed gets the Thursday @ 1900 game
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Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.
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SeaWolf said:

DanielWilsonIPS said:

SeaWolf said:

So are my calculations correct, if GT hangs on to beat Duke , they get the #1 seed, the Cheats at #2, FSU at #3 and the Pack at #4?
Bingo


Thanks for the verification. So the silver lining to this crappy weekend is the #4 seed gets the Thursday @ 1900 game



Yeah honestly best case scenario outside the #1 seed was the #4 seed matching up with GT in semifinal. Get the extra day of rest. Then FSU or UNC in the title game. Hope we get there.
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It's been a while since I've been this disappointed.

Massive missed opportunity for State.
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ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!
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getwicked said:

It's been a while since I've been this disappointed.

Massive missed opportunity for State.


Swinging at ball 4 with the bases loaded to win the ACC is way more disappointing than winning the all of a sudden participation trophy of winning the regular season.

It has never meant anything. We all want to win every game. It means about that much.

Some soft mad fans in here.
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Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…
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ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.
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CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ChemE94 said:

This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.


I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
only thing is the stats say you're wrong...


Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).


Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?

just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?

as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha


I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.

And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.

Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lol

Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..

This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.

If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.

Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.

Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.


This team is hitting .289 with 63 homers


23 hit .298, 92 hrs
22 hit .294, 101 Hrs

Come on man.

look at the conference stats dude. lol

and my bad, I didn't realize those were the only stats that counted for anything.

You win. Go be mad about how shtty this team is that's getting a double bye in the conference tourney.


Again I ask my original question. Which team over the past 10 years do you think this lineup would out hit?

What does "out hit" even mean? lol



Which team over the past 10 years had a worse lineup?
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PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

ChemE94 said:

This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.


I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
only thing is the stats say you're wrong...


Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).


Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?

just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?

as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha


I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.

And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.

Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lol

Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..

This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.

If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.

Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.

Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.


This team is hitting .289 with 63 homers


23 hit .298, 92 hrs
22 hit .294, 101 Hrs

Come on man.

look at the conference stats dude. lol

and my bad, I didn't realize those were the only stats that counted for anything.

You win. Go be mad about how shtty this team is that's getting a double bye in the conference tourney.


Again I ask my original question. Which team over the past 10 years do you think this lineup would out hit?

What does "out hit" even mean? lol



Which team over the past 10 years had a worse lineup?

By what metric (besides the pgawolf eye test lol)?
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Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.
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ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.
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I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.
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Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can
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Looks like it matters to Danny Hall and his boys
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Alex Gee said:

Looks like it matters to Danny Hall and his boys
It's Hall's last year
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DanielWilsonIPS said:

Alex Gee said:

Looks like it matters to Danny Hall and his boys
It's Hall's last year


I'm aware. And EA is approaching that too
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PGAWolf said:

I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

Good lord.

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CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

Good lord.




Do you disagree?
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PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

Good lord.




Do you disagree?

lol

Do I disagree with your cherry picking and wanting to dismiss actual data? Yeah, I prolly do. Lol


You're trying to deflect this away from your original statement of this being the worst hitting team over some such of a timeframe. lol


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CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

Good lord.




Do you disagree?

lol

Do I disagree with your cherry picking and wanting to dismiss actual data? Yeah, I prolly do. Lol


You're trying to deflect this away from your original statement of this being the worst hitting team over some such of a timeframe. lol





No I am not. I am consistently asked which team you felt was a worse hitting team? And you have yet to answer

Pick and year and we will discuss.
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Alex Gee said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can


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Alex Gee said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can


No offense taken. I'm 100% in agreement with you. It mattered, but we didn't get it done, and it was an absolute choke job against a really bad team. This was about as perfect a setup a you could have, and we blew it. Hoping we can still make the most of it next week and somehow find a way to host.
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PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

PGAWolf said:

CLTWolf said:

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I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

Good lord.




Do you disagree?

lol

Do I disagree with your cherry picking and wanting to dismiss actual data? Yeah, I prolly do. Lol


You're trying to deflect this away from your original statement of this being the worst hitting team over some such of a timeframe. lol





No I am not. I am consistently asked which team you felt was a worse hitting team? And you have yet to answer

Pick and year and we will discuss.

I put out a post with the data. Go read it. lol

Stop deflecting. lol


How bout this…the 2021 team was the best lineup ever. Cool?
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Alex Gee said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can


They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.
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Cthepack said:

Alex Gee said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can


They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.



Ironic you telling anyone to stop it, no?!? Lol
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Cthepack said:

Alex Gee said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

ChemE94 said:

Cthepack said:

Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!


Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.


Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!


Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…


There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.


And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.


Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.


You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can


They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.



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