Pathetic! Only watch last inning. This is one worse hitting team in State history. If State does not win ACC Tournament then Avent needs to step down at end of the year. 30 years of no championship time for a change.
Mahaya said:From what I hear Avent didn't have much $ so I'm sure that impacted the transfers he got pretty heavilyStateFan2001 said:
Your HS recruits have largely delivered in Sosa, Nixon, Head. The transfer rolls of the dice have been a mixed bag and up and down with the exception of McHugh. Decrisio, Fraasman, Ossemfort, Jaros, etc. need better HS recruiting.
griff17matt said:PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
Don't know why everyone does this with CLT like it'll ever be a productive conversation. He'll just say inane, troll bull**** until you lose your cool and then he gets to claim a victory because he'll offer you an internet hug bc you're big mad. He's the Ovies of the boards. Don't feed the trolls.
RaisedByWolves said:
I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.
you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lolPGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha
I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.
And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.
Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
yeah, it's super fun when I prove dudes like you wrong with stats and sht.griff17matt said:PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
Don't know why everyone does this with CLT like it'll ever be a productive conversation. He'll just say inane, troll bull**** until you lose your cool and then he gets to claim a victory because he'll offer you an internet hug bc you're big mad. He's the Ovies of the boards. Don't feed the trolls.
I wouldn't agree with him if I were you. He's literally me but the grumpier version and a few more kids.PGAWolf said:griff17matt said:PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
Don't know why everyone does this with CLT like it'll ever be a productive conversation. He'll just say inane, troll bull**** until you lose your cool and then he gets to claim a victory because he'll offer you an internet hug bc you're big mad. He's the Ovies of the boards. Don't feed the trolls.
Thank you for saying that. I didn't realize. And no one was chiming in so I thought I was going crazy
RedWolf89 said:ChemE94 said:RedWolf89 said:
Blaming Avent is ridiculous. A coach who puts their team in position to win the ACC, he can't play the field or bat. This is clearly on the players not stepping up
Part of the issue is he basically said he didn't care about winning the regular season last night. The team played like it this whole series.
I'm sure he told the team to go out there and play to lose the conference
DrunkMrWuf said:
Just an atrocious last two days.
CLTWolf said:you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lolPGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha
I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.
And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.
Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..
This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.
If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.
Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.
Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.
DeCrisio is having as good if not a hair better season than Butterworth last year. We loved Butters last year lolStateFan2001 said:
Your HS recruits have largely delivered in Sosa, Nixon, Head. The transfer rolls of the dice have been a mixed bag and up and down with the exception of McHugh. Decrisio, Fraasman, Ossemfort, Jaros, etc. need better HS recruiting.
look at the conference stats dude. lolPGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:you're really not trying to have a legit conversation lolPGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:just naming players doesn't prove your point. lol what are you even trying to do here?PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).PGAWolf said:CLTWolf said:only thing is the stats say you're wrong...PGAWolf said:ChemE94 said:
This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.
I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.
Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.
Has nothing to do with being upset today.
Last years team hits circles around this team.
23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad
Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?
as my man big lefty would say, go touch grass. haha
I'm trying to have a legit conversation. Because you're dead wrong. I'm not even sure the stats would back up what you're saying. Not to mention the way the bats and balls have progressed over the years.
And I'm only naming a couple players due to not wanting to list every line up from the past 10 years.
Again I ask. Of the years I listed which team is a worse hitting team than this year?
Take out the 2021 team which was an absolute all timer, very few teams will ever be better than that one. I didn't look at 2020 either b/c of covid, obviously, but..
This years team (coming into today) has a higher batting average, slugging %, on base % and struck out less than the teams from 2019, 2022, 2023 and last year.
If you want to say this years team has the worst "clutch gene", whatever, I'd just roll my eyes and move on, wouldn't have said a word. Did those other teams have some bigger star power? Sure, I guess but this team isn't a terrible hitting team.
Never mind we also played the weekend without our best hitter in the lineup, might not've changed anything but that hurt. Novy did his best to fill in but McHugh is a dude you're gonna list out one day in a couple years. He's fkn good.
Was this weekend one of the worst hitting displays? Man I wouldn't even try to disagree with anything about this weekends performance. It was piss pitiful.
This team is hitting .289 with 63 homers
23 hit .298, 92 hrs
22 hit .294, 101 Hrs
Come on man.
ChemE94 said:RaisedByWolves said:
I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.
With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.
Wow.BBADWOLF#1 said:
Pathetic! Only watch last inning. This is one worse hitting team in State history. If State does not win ACC Tournament then Avent needs to step down at end of the year. 30 years of no championship time for a change.
pantherpack said:
Depressing performance this weekend. Everything on the line and right in front of us and we crap the bed. Only positive today was SVD with an awesome 3 innings of work. Maybe just maybe we move Nance into the rotation for the tourney now. But not holding my breath. But if we can't hit the ball any better than nothing really matters anyway.
This is nuts. Win the last two games, and we win the regular season title. Lose two conference games, and he needs to quit. Quite the razor's edge.BBADWOLF#1 said:
Pathetic! Only watch last inning. This is one worse hitting team in State history. If State does not win ACC Tournament then Avent needs to step down at end of the year. 30 years of no championship time for a change.
Yeah, prolly time to see Anderson start.StateFan2001 said:pantherpack said:
Depressing performance this weekend. Everything on the line and right in front of us and we crap the bed. Only positive today was SVD with an awesome 3 innings of work. Maybe just maybe we move Nance into the rotation for the tourney now. But not holding my breath. But if we can't hit the ball any better than nothing really matters anyway.
That is the recipe for this team. Get SVD into the pen and move Namce to the rotation and hope guys like Dexrisxio and Frassman heat up and McHugh gets healthy.
He watched the last inning my dude. He's an authority on these matters, of course.Ncstatefan01 said:This is nuts. Win the last two games, and we win the regular season title. Lose two conference games, and he needs to quit. Quite the razor's edge.BBADWOLF#1 said:
Pathetic! Only watch last inning. This is one worse hitting team in State history. If State does not win ACC Tournament then Avent needs to step down at end of the year. 30 years of no championship time for a change.
And I wonder why people say message board posters are lunatics.
BigLefty24 said:
Avent should get a raise for having this offensive sh*t show in a position to win the regular season on the final day of the season.
Outside of about three guys, the plate approaches and game awareness of this team has been borderline comical. And right now, Fraasman is the lead clown of the circus.
Nairo said:
We will become a warm weather Boston College. What Avent has done given what we provide him is nothing short of remarkableChemE94 said:RaisedByWolves said:
I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.
With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.
ChemE94 said:
Wow. FSU did it. One effing win in the last two days and we win the acc.