NCAA CWS #RoadtoOmaha Pack9 vs Kentucky Sat 1 PM (L5-4) Mon 1 PM CDT (L5-4)

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If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game
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In reply to PossumJenkins • 5:24p, 6/15/24
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Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them
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5:24p, 6/15/24
And now we bring Smith in. Dumb ass EA. Absolute idiocy.
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:25p, 6/15/24
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If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


Yep, this will end up an L and now you've used Dudan and Smith.
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In reply to M_A • 5:25p, 6/15/24
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PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


Still his best pitch. And with no one on you have to throw that! If they get on then so be it but you have to throw that when it's as nasty as it is.
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5:25p, 6/15/24
Absolutely clueless $EC announcers. Smith is our closer
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5:25p, 6/15/24
We're going to win
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:26p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


In other words, don't outsmart yourself, which almost every coach does in post season. Crazy
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:26p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game
Yep, playing out of the loser's bracket is tough on your pitching depth.
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5:26p, 6/15/24
Feels like coaches make baseball way tougher than it needs to be. Should have been an obvious plan once you got the lead.
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In reply to wirewolf • 5:26p, 6/15/24
wirewolf said:
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


Yep, this will end up an L and now you've used Dudan and Smith.


You act like they are done for a week. We have a day off no matter what.
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5:27p, 6/15/24
Dudan has a few saves. Avent probably thought he could go 2. It's different in the CWS with a freshman though. There's a reason all these MLB teams that have tried "Relief Aces" and ditching closers have abandoned it
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In reply to M_A • 5:27p, 6/15/24
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:29p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


Why in the *expletive* did he not start the 9th. What are we doing…
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In reply to Packchem91 • 5:29p, 6/15/24
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Packchem91 said:
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


In other words, don't outsmart yourself, which almost every coach does in post season. Crazy
You've identified Smith as your closer. He knows he's going in, in the 9th, with a lead.

Now you don't do it? Just bad.

Dudan is very good. Smith has been elite in this role. When you lead going to 9th, it's Smiths' ball.
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In reply to PossumJenkins • 5:30p, 6/15/24
PossumJenkins said:
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
I mean they were behind it but they adjusted to the speed and went the other way with it. Just got beat. Thats why youd rather have a guy with the experience who isnt just throwing as hard as he can Dudan will learn from this . Was just an awful time to learn that lesson
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5:30p, 6/15/24
Better throw than I thought.
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5:30p, 6/15/24
He slid over the bag. He's out if the tag was kept on him
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:31p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
Packchem91 said:
James Henderson said:
If you have a closer as dominant as Smith, use your damn closer.

You got to get 1 inning. Smith is that guy.

Now you compound it by going to him tie game


In other words, don't outsmart yourself, which almost every coach does in post season. Crazy
You've identified Smith as your closer. He knows he's going in, in the 9th, with a lead.

Now you don't do it? Just bad.

Dudan is very good. Smith has been elite in this role.


Agreed.
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In reply to PossumJenkins • 5:31p, 6/15/24
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PossumJenkins said:
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
They went with the pitch. Good hitting.
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5:32p, 6/15/24
He was safe but taking third seemed like a dumb risk
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:33p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
PossumJenkins said:
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
They went with the pitch. Good hitting.


I was being annoying…the point still stands. Get beat with your best pitch.
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5:34p, 6/15/24
Shouldnt have risked the pitches in the dirt after it was 3-0. Just go to the IBB
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5:34p, 6/15/24
Careful here, make him hit ur pitch. You got a bag.
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5:34p, 6/15/24
Dont get beat by this Canadian ****. Pitch around, if he swings great if not go to their donk catcher
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In reply to M_A • 5:35p, 6/15/24
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Dont get beat by this Canadian ****. Pitch around, if he swings great if not go to their donk catcher
I agree, a damn Canadian.
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In reply to PossumJenkins • 5:35p, 6/15/24
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PossumJenkins said:
James Henderson said:
PossumJenkins said:
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
They went with the pitch. Good hitting.


I was being annoying…the point still stands. Get beat with your best pitch.
I don't think any pitcher is 100% a single pitch though. Count was 0-1 sure he could have thrown slider there but he's not throwing 100% slider. I dont think that was a count where you had to go with your best pitch but others can view it differently.
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5:35p, 6/15/24
dont understand the outfield playing so far in here..
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5:36p, 6/15/24
Let's go boys
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5:36p, 6/15/24
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5:36p, 6/15/24
Very fortunate but we got out of it

We win this game if you go to Smith to start the inning
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5:36p, 6/15/24
Hit a rocket.
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5:38p, 6/15/24
if only we put him out there to start the inning
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In reply to James Henderson • 5:38p, 6/15/24
James Henderson said:
PossumJenkins said:
James Henderson said:
PossumJenkins said:
M_A said:
PossumJenkins said:
Dudan coming out for the 9th was fine. He had thrown an inning previous. Nerves had calmed down some. And those UK hitters hadn't seen him yet. Problem was the fastball. You got away with the first one. No idea why you'd throw the second one to there biggest HR hitter when your best pitch is the slider.
He faced two lefties to start the inning, the slider isnt as effective against them


That fastball didn't seem too effective either…
They went with the pitch. Good hitting.


I was being annoying…the point still stands. Get beat with your best pitch.
I don't think any pitcher is 100% a single pitch though. Count was 0-1 sure he could have thrown slider there but he's not throwing 100% slider. I dont think that was a count where you had to go with your best pitch but others can view it differently.


He's literally come into innings and thrown nothing but sliders to all three batters. He got away with the first fastball. I'm taking that present and getting him out with my best pitch past that
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Why does everything have to come down to coaching decisions? Sometimes kids just make plays.

Dudan has six saves. That's at least six times he has closed out a game before. He is not bad at closing games. There was nothing wrong with leaving him in. He just served one and the UK dude hit it hard enough.

Smith gave up runs in Georgia too, he just had a bigger lead to work with.
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