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packofwolves said:
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SmaptyWolf said:
You gotta admit it's kinda funny how the Constitution crowd is so eager to require an ID to exercise a Constitutional right. Maybe we should keep that in mind next time we're regulating guns.
ID is needed to combat voter fraud -- eg, people voting using another person's name, etc.
To ensure this constitutional right is exercised by US citizens only. Libby's must get pissed off every time they show an ID to buy alcohol, board a plane, go to the doctors, apply for government programs, get insurance, apply for utilities, get a cell phone and so on. The additional burden of having to show ID to vote just pushes them off the cliff.
I'm actually fine with voter ID to shut you guys up (I'm also fine with more extensive requirements to get a gun), but despite the MAGA fan fiction voter fraud is extremely hard to pull off in our system... plenty of checks and balances and the risk/reward just isn't worth it.
Somehow our democracy managed just fine without anyone even having a birth certificate for hundreds of years. But sure, let's all play along with this not being 100% about you guys just wanting to reduce the minority vote (and now assuaging Trump's ego, too).
That is such a bad excuse used by the Libby's for far too long. But it's the only excuse they can come up with. You are stating minorities are incapable of getting an ID. Living in this country requires an ID for basic services and government programs. It's ridiculous.
It emphasizes how ignorant, and subject to group think, someone is to say that minorities can't get an ID. It also says they're a racist moron.
Luke usual, the dims doing what they accuse others of.
Edit to add... one literally has to effort to function in today's society without an id. They literally choose to or are incapacitated.
I won't bother trying to explain to you why fewer minority voters might not have an ID, it's just a fact that that is the case.
Speaking of ignorant group think, though... do you guys seriously think that if Dems wanted to hack an election that their BIG STRATEGY would be to employ a million illegals into a grand conspiracy and hope no one gets caught? Especially when they could just, you know, hack some antiquated voting systems and be done with it... maybe even hire a hostile foreign power to do it for them?
You guys really struggle with the whole "thinking about the crap you're being fed for 30 seconds" thing.
Right.
It's not debatable that voter ID laws disproportionately impact minorities, the elderly, and student voters.
Now look at what party those demographics typically vote for and tell me it's a coincidence that Republicans push voter ID laws so hard.
I'd have zero issue with voter ID laws being pushed hard by whomever if they were actually shown to meaningfully reduce voter fraud. But they don't, mostly because there's no meaningful voter fraud to reduce. Voter fraud is already infinitesimally low relative to turnout. It's always been infinitesimally low and there have never been indications it's increasing over time.
As it stands, I'm for voter ID requirements because it's one less excuse the fake voter fraud loons can roll out when they take the L.
You literally only speak far leftist talking points, pretindependent. Voter id laws do not disproportionately affect minorities, students, and the elderly. Thats just stupid and it is 100% debatable. Saying it is not debatable explains what a cultist you are. But that's not surprising from someone that believes a man can be a woman because a clownfish can change genders.
You're for voter id now because your leftist networks find it palatable now. You don't voice anything other than party rhetoric. Let's not pretend you've evaluated it on your own.
Minorities, the elderly, and student voters are disproportionately affected by needing an id only if some woke cuck is trying to frame a "study" for more woke bull***** Literally every group HAS to have an ID to function in society, unless they simply choose not to or are incapacitated. IDs are free. I also love how now you say the elderly and students are affected too. I guess you realize what a racist you sound like saying only minorities are disproportionately affected. Remarkable how incompetent you and your fellow democrats find them to be.
Let's also evaluate your position on these issues with voter id, illegals voting, or mail in ballots. You would 100% be crying if the votes weren't on your side. Look at how you cheerlead rape accusations.
I look forward to hearing you pretend to care about truth, integrity, and leadership when the geriatric incompetent you're voting for loses. It's almost hypocrite season.
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