Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
Log off. Go outside.
You can't reason with folks like the Traffic... dude has zero comments here other than today that weren't troll posts.packofwolves said:NCTrafficMan said:
Even Ivanka does not want to be involved....guess putting up with Orange Clowns temper tantrums is no longer worth the grift in her eyes....Guess some of y'all are gonna be lonely at the cult rallies.....
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ivanka-trump-says-shes-done-with-politics-after-father-donald-trump-announces-2024-run/
Ivanka Trump skips Donald Trump's 2024 campaign announcement, says she's done with politics
Can't blame her. It's not because she doesn't support her father. She (and other siblings) were under constant attack by the left media. She is prioritizing her family and staying out of the attacks.
You mean similar to the grift of sending Ukraine billions to have them invest in FTX and have FTX fund your MARXIST PARTY'S campaigns with taxpayer dollars?NCTrafficMan said:It really comes down to She and Slinderman Jared have their grift going with Saudi Arabia. No need to be in Washington when the real money scamming is elsewhere. At least she is bright enough to know when to STFU and leave unlike her Orange Clown father.packofwolves said:NCTrafficMan said:
Even Ivanka does not want to be involved....guess putting up with Orange Clowns temper tantrums is no longer worth the grift in her eyes....Guess some of y'all are gonna be lonely at the cult rallies.....
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ivanka-trump-says-shes-done-with-politics-after-father-donald-trump-announces-2024-run/
Ivanka Trump skips Donald Trump's 2024 campaign announcement, says she's done with politics
Can't blame her. It's not because she doesn't support her father. She (and other siblings) were under constant attack by the left media. She is prioritizing her family and staying out of the attacks.
BBW12OG said:
Election officials in Maricopa County established an anti-Trump PAC.. you know... the people in charge of counting the votes and making sure the elections are run fairly...
But... you won't acknowledge that will you?
curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
LOL....every. post.BBW12OG said:
MARXIST PARTY'S
Why don't you pay IPS to post your BS?NCTrafficMan said:LOL....every. post.BBW12OG said:
MARXIST PARTY'S
Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
Ask his midterm candidates about that.curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
The Orange Clown Trump still needs gullible cult members like yourself to grift money from so keep sending him money and he will continue to pretend to care about you and your issues.curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
Trumps VP will be LakeCivilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
Not only is that ticket far weaker and more beatable than DeSantis heading the ballot, but then DeSantis likely also has the stench of a Trump loss on his resume when he inevitably runs at the top of the ticket in 28.
I don't see how either the RNC or DeSantis get on board with that approach.
Why would they? The RNC knows that in DeSantis they've got someone that's smarter, communicates better, is more savvy, and less unfavorable/more electable.
The irony is that Dems, although they hate Trump, should want Trump to be the guy. Just like with his poor endorsement outcomes, they have to know he's far more beatable than DeSantis.
Trump only wears Stitch Golf Polos. Good for the local company!!NCTrafficMan said:
Oh and just for bbw: MARXIST.
Sorry, brosef, you can't demsplain this one away, no matter how hard you try. Ut sementem feceris ita metes. Trump/DeSantis FTW.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
Not only is that ticket far weaker and more beatable than DeSantis heading the ballot, but then DeSantis likely also has the stench of a Trump loss on his resume when he inevitably runs at the top of the ticket in 28.
I don't see how either the RNC or DeSantis get on board with that approach.
Why would they? The RNC knows that in DeSantis they've got someone that's smarter, communicates better, is more savvy, and less unfavorable/more electable.
The irony is that Dems, although they hate Trump, should want Trump to be the guy. Just like with his poor endorsement outcomes, they have to know he's far more beatable than DeSantis.
BBW12OG said:You can't reason with folks like the Traffic... dude has zero comments here other than today that weren't troll posts.packofwolves said:NCTrafficMan said:
Even Ivanka does not want to be involved....guess putting up with Orange Clowns temper tantrums is no longer worth the grift in her eyes....Guess some of y'all are gonna be lonely at the cult rallies.....
https://nypost.com/2022/11/16/ivanka-trump-says-shes-done-with-politics-after-father-donald-trump-announces-2024-run/
Ivanka Trump skips Donald Trump's 2024 campaign announcement, says she's done with politics
Can't blame her. It's not because she doesn't support her father. She (and other siblings) were under constant attack by the left media. She is prioritizing her family and staying out of the attacks.
He's a POS cast off from TOS and always has been. He doesn't get responses over there because people that have been there 20+ years know how he operates.
Best to tell him to FO and ignore him for the most part.
Good points.Civilized said:BBW12OG said:
The MAGA base is strong and will follow Trump. We have to stop the infighting and let the dumbocrats self implode.
"The MAGA base is strong" is the same line of thinking that led to so many on the right being surprised that Trump lost in 2020.
That's a road that would again lead to peril for the GOP in 2024. It doesn't appropriately account for how very unfavorable he is for everyone except the MAGA crowd.
The MAGA base isn't big enough to carry Trump. He's too unpopular with swing/independent voters and we all know Trump galvanizes the left.
Him being empowered in 2016 has led to long-term problems for the GOP.
If he loses the GOP nomination, there's a very real chance he runs third party and fractures the party and the GOP definitely loses.
If he wins the nomination, there's a very real chance the GOP loses as long as the Dems don't roll Brandon or Kamala out there again.
If DeSantis wins the nomination, there's a very high chance he wins the general election no matter who the Dems roll out there.
If you're a GOP strategist doing risk-profiling, why in the world would you get behind Trump as the nominee when it opens the door to several bad outcomes that don't exist when DeSantis is the nominee?
Do you long for a cell mate? You paid Traffic right?Marco said:
Trump for prison mate 2024!!Sounds more like it!!
Marco said:
BBW120G,I don't ovastand your post which seems bout right cause i heard u went Trump university!!As for Conald he announced he's running again but hasn't conceded,at least publicly, he lost in 2020!!Oh my bad,it was stolen!He said stop tha count,now i remember!!Criminal conman!!
curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
Yep I have to agree as well, he's alienated way too many folks.cowboypack02 said:curmudgeon.zen said:Hahaha....wrong.Civilized said:curmudgeon.zen said:
Trump/DeSantis is the ticket. Unbeatable.
All Trump does is weaken that ticket.
Any ticket with Trump is beatable.
I actually agree with this.
Regardless of whether his policies are right or wrong he is so polarizing that the independents don't vote for him in numbers he needs to win a nationwide election.
There are lots of reasons that you can argue why, but if that us what the voters have been convinced of then it is what it is
LOL....every post.BBW12OG said:
MARXIST PARTY
caryking said:
I agree, Trump has alienated people. From a policy position, why? From a party position, why?
I think those two question have some interesting answers, to consider…
Civ, I guess that makes me more capably diverse than you. I can separate the person/behavior and the policy.Civilized said:caryking said:
I agree, Trump has alienated people. From a policy position, why? From a party position, why?
I think those two question have some interesting answers, to consider…
You can't separate his behavior from his policy. Most voters vote for the total package of benefits and faults, not just a list of policy positions.
Jan 6 and Stop the Steal were a bridge too far for many that otherwise may have been able to look past his glaring personal/personality defects.
That, and I think many on the right now see a much more electable candidate in DeSantis that checks a whole lot of the boxes Trump checked, with fewer flaws holding him, and therefore the party, back.
You'd probably see more right-leaning swing and moderates being more willing to hold their nose and ride with Trump if they didn't already see the newer, faster, more reliable car sitting in the garage.