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It takes a special kind of person to cheer for Iran!
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-xi-agreed-us-became-declining-nation-during-biden-years

I'm not sure how this will be received, but this looks like a good place to put this...

Setting aside the hypocritical absurdity of Trump calling anyone else Sleepy at this point, what's the news here? Trump's interpretation of what he thinks Xi said? Certainly no reason to question that...

Oh, I'm sure that either one of you or Smarpty were there interpreting in official capacity... what all else was said, if you don't mind sharing?



These are the same people who believe every word Iran says

When Dear Leader insists that there's a ceasefire, but Iran keeps attacking ships and your gas keeps getting more expensive, have you ever considered the possibility that he's a fu**ing liar who lies literally 100% of the time?

He says what he wants you to believe and you gobble it up. Congrats, you've been groomed.


Dear d*psh*t. Iran hasn't hit a SINGLE ship they "attacked". Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Their bass boats were destroyed and the sight where they launched was also destroyed. To anyone not suffering from TDS, that's what we call operational failure.

If you cheer harder, maybe it will come true?!



Tankers, dumb ass. And the shipping industry doesn't take risks, which is why the strait has been completely shut down this entire time despite what ever dumb sh** Trump has convinced you of.

Hey, I wonder why Trump is in China right now begging for help? Because we're winning so hard? That must be it.


Are you talking about an Indian flag ship that was attacked off the cost of Oman? Oh boy the war is lost, everyone!1

WE shut the strait down to strangle Iran to the tune of $500 million per day. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Trumps trip to China has been planned for nearly a year BEFORE kicking Irans @$$, numbnuts. Xi is coming to Washington in September. Is he coming to beg for help too?

I get it, for your cult to function Trump must always look like he's holding all the cards at all times. So there's probably no way your brain will let you process these thoughts... but let's walk through this slowly:

You're saying that "blockading Iran's ports" and "closing the strait" are the same thing? So we've got their ports locked down and are pew pewing anything that moves, but we're choosing to block the strait ourselves and not let any friendly ships pass through? Becaaaaaaaaause we want $10 gas?

If we kicked their @$$ already, what are we "closing the strait" and shooting ourselves in the di** for, again? To convince them to do what? (HINT: TO OPEN THE STRAIT).

And if Iran is so worried about the "blockade", why did their ceasefire demands basically include "give us all a turn with Melania"? Sorry man. Iran has rat****ed the strait, we can't do anything about it, and Trump is pathetically trying to look like he's in control by taking credit for the world economy shutting down. Sad!

Regardless of when the trip was planned, yes, Trump is in China begging for help. He didn't get it. But he holds all the cards.


First, when you said Iran attacking ships…which ships. Please be specific. Where?

Where is gas $10? California, where they have over regulated and closed down every single refinery? Again, please be specific….where is $10 gas?

We are close the strait a starving them of $500 million per day….next question…

…what? Anything someone uses "basically"….they don't know what they are talking about and are regurgitating talking points.

Tell you what Smapthy, let's make a bet? A perma ban? You willing?
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I think overall, Iran has been a success, however I think it's ok to admit that they miscalculated their efforts in the Strait of Hormuz. I think Trump is uncommitted to what needs to be done, because that would involve heavy US forces.

I'm ok with the President pausing to make that decision to make sure it's planned correctly if he pulls the trigger.

But to say this is a massive failure or Iran is winning is wanting to believe something that just isn't true.
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

TheStorm said:

eljefe444 said:

TheStorm said:

eljefe444 said:




https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-xi-agreed-us-became-declining-nation-during-biden-years

I'm not sure how this will be received, but this looks like a good place to put this...

Setting aside the hypocritical absurdity of Trump calling anyone else Sleepy at this point, what's the news here? Trump's interpretation of what he thinks Xi said? Certainly no reason to question that...

Oh, I'm sure that either one of you or Smarpty were there interpreting in official capacity... what all else was said, if you don't mind sharing?



These are the same people who believe every word Iran says

When Dear Leader insists that there's a ceasefire, but Iran keeps attacking ships and your gas keeps getting more expensive, have you ever considered the possibility that he's a fu**ing liar who lies literally 100% of the time?

He says what he wants you to believe and you gobble it up. Congrats, you've been groomed.


Dear d*psh*t. Iran hasn't hit a SINGLE ship they "attacked". Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Their bass boats were destroyed and the sight where they launched was also destroyed. To anyone not suffering from TDS, that's what we call operational failure.

If you cheer harder, maybe it will come true?!



Tankers, dumb ass. And the shipping industry doesn't take risks, which is why the strait has been completely shut down this entire time despite what ever dumb sh** Trump has convinced you of.

Hey, I wonder why Trump is in China right now begging for help? Because we're winning so hard? That must be it.


Are you talking about an Indian flag ship that was attacked off the cost of Oman? Oh boy the war is lost, everyone!1

WE shut the strait down to strangle Iran to the tune of $500 million per day. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Trumps trip to China has been planned for nearly a year BEFORE kicking Irans @$$, numbnuts. Xi is coming to Washington in September. Is he coming to beg for help too?

I get it, for your cult to function Trump must always look like he's holding all the cards at all times. So there's probably no way your brain will let you process these thoughts... but let's walk through this slowly:

You're saying that "blockading Iran's ports" and "closing the strait" are the same thing? So we've got their ports locked down and are pew pewing anything that moves, but we're choosing to block the strait ourselves and not let any friendly ships pass through? Becaaaaaaaaause we want $10 gas?

If we kicked their @$$ already, what are we "closing the strait" and shooting ourselves in the di** for, again? To convince them to do what? (HINT: TO OPEN THE STRAIT).

And if Iran is so worried about the "blockade", why did their ceasefire demands basically include "give us all a turn with Melania"? Sorry man. Iran has rat****ed the strait, we can't do anything about it, and Trump is pathetically trying to look like he's in control by taking credit for the world economy shutting down. Sad!

Regardless of when the trip was planned, yes, Trump is in China begging for help. He didn't get it. But he holds all the cards.


First, when you said Iran attacking ships…which ships. Please be specific. Where?

Where is gas $10? California, where they have over regulated and closed down every single refinery? Again, please be specific….where is $10 gas?

We are close the strait a starving them of $500 million per day….next question…

…what? Anything someone uses "basically"….they don't know what they are talking about and are regurgitating talking points.

Tell you what Smapthy, let's make a bet? A perma ban? You willing?


It's been ongoing. Here are a couple tankers that Iran attacked today:
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/15/g-s1-122203/tensions-flare-near-strait-of-hormuz

We have $5 gas, which is already insane. But $10 gas is projected soon even if everything stopped today. That should be fun.

I used "basically" so you wouldn't bawl that they didn't literally ask for a turn with Melania. Because you're predictable. But they may as well have... their list of demands were not intended to be acceptable.

Feel free to answer any of my questions, though.
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hokiewolf said:

I think overall, Iran has been a success, however I think it's ok to admit that they miscalculated their efforts in the Strait of Hormuz. I think Trump is uncommitted to what needs to be done, because that would involve heavy US forces.

I'm ok with the President pausing to make that decision to make sure it's planned correctly if he pulls the trigger.

But to say this is a massive failure or Iran is winning is wanting to believe something that just isn't true.

We've degraded a lot of their military capability, but apparently not their missile stores or ability to make drones indefinitely. And somehow their nuclear program is still intact. They now have far more radical leaders who will certainly be keeping revenge top of mind... imagine MAGA if they assassinated Trump and multiply that by 100... in case you were hoping they'd now give up wanting a nuke. To open the Strait it's HIGHLY likely that Trump will unfreeze all of their assets, making Obama's "pallets of cash" look hilariously quaint, which means anything we did blow up will be quickly rebuilt, and at best we'll have a nuclear "deal" that's probably crappier than the one Trump threw away. And now they know they can hold the Strait of Hormuz over our head any time they want, assuming they don't set up a permanent toll booth.

How has this been a success, exactly? Aside from your obvious wishful thinking, what are you basing that on?

There's a reason the U.S. has avoided this morass for 40 years, until Trump bumbled in thinking it was Venezuela 2.0. Without a ground invasion the Pentagon (who apparently don't get invited to the meetings) pretty much predicted all of this would happen decades ago.
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No, you are reading the NY Times who is leaning on opinions of the intelligence community. Well, whose opinions? Is it US? Is it Israeli? Russia? China? They don't say.

Further, absolutely, Iran has missiles available. Unfortunately they are buried underground. So, they are not readily available.

As far as drones, sure they have them for now. How are they going to get the parts for them and then build them? The blockade of Iranian ports helps prevent that.

I'm glad to see that you are now taking the military and its budget seriously though.

Like I said, a lot of good has happened, some mistakes, but to act like this is a catastrophe is just not happening and degrades your issues with this war.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

TheStorm said:

eljefe444 said:

TheStorm said:

eljefe444 said:




https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-xi-agreed-us-became-declining-nation-during-biden-years

I'm not sure how this will be received, but this looks like a good place to put this...

Setting aside the hypocritical absurdity of Trump calling anyone else Sleepy at this point, what's the news here? Trump's interpretation of what he thinks Xi said? Certainly no reason to question that...

Oh, I'm sure that either one of you or Smarpty were there interpreting in official capacity... what all else was said, if you don't mind sharing?



These are the same people who believe every word Iran says

When Dear Leader insists that there's a ceasefire, but Iran keeps attacking ships and your gas keeps getting more expensive, have you ever considered the possibility that he's a fu**ing liar who lies literally 100% of the time?

He says what he wants you to believe and you gobble it up. Congrats, you've been groomed.


Dear d*psh*t. Iran hasn't hit a SINGLE ship they "attacked". Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Their bass boats were destroyed and the sight where they launched was also destroyed. To anyone not suffering from TDS, that's what we call operational failure.

If you cheer harder, maybe it will come true?!



Tankers, dumb ass. And the shipping industry doesn't take risks, which is why the strait has been completely shut down this entire time despite what ever dumb sh** Trump has convinced you of.

Hey, I wonder why Trump is in China right now begging for help? Because we're winning so hard? That must be it.


Are you talking about an Indian flag ship that was attacked off the cost of Oman? Oh boy the war is lost, everyone!1

WE shut the strait down to strangle Iran to the tune of $500 million per day. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

Trumps trip to China has been planned for nearly a year BEFORE kicking Irans @$$, numbnuts. Xi is coming to Washington in September. Is he coming to beg for help too?

I get it, for your cult to function Trump must always look like he's holding all the cards at all times. So there's probably no way your brain will let you process these thoughts... but let's walk through this slowly:

You're saying that "blockading Iran's ports" and "closing the strait" are the same thing? So we've got their ports locked down and are pew pewing anything that moves, but we're choosing to block the strait ourselves and not let any friendly ships pass through? Becaaaaaaaaause we want $10 gas?

If we kicked their @$$ already, what are we "closing the strait" and shooting ourselves in the di** for, again? To convince them to do what? (HINT: TO OPEN THE STRAIT).

And if Iran is so worried about the "blockade", why did their ceasefire demands basically include "give us all a turn with Melania"? Sorry man. Iran has rat****ed the strait, we can't do anything about it, and Trump is pathetically trying to look like he's in control by taking credit for the world economy shutting down. Sad!

Regardless of when the trip was planned, yes, Trump is in China begging for help. He didn't get it. But he holds all the cards.


First, when you said Iran attacking ships…which ships. Please be specific. Where?

Where is gas $10? California, where they have over regulated and closed down every single refinery? Again, please be specific….where is $10 gas?

We are close the strait a starving them of $500 million per day….next question…

…what? Anything someone uses "basically"….they don't know what they are talking about and are regurgitating talking points.

Tell you what Smapthy, let's make a bet? A perma ban? You willing?


It's been ongoing. Here are a couple tankers that Iran attacked today:
https://www.npr.org/2026/05/15/g-s1-122203/tensions-flare-near-strait-of-hormuz

We have $5 gas, which is already insane. But $10 gas is projected soon even if everything stopped today. That should be fun.

I used "basically" so you wouldn't bawl that they didn't literally ask for a turn with Melania. Because you're predictable. But they may as well have... their list of demands were not intended to be acceptable.

Feel free to answer any of my questions, though.


Do you have an alias? Who in the world is liking you dumbassery? eljefe?

Gas "projected"…let me know when it gets to $10 out side of California, okay?

Let's make a bet gas never gets to $10 in North Carolina? Deal…bet??

The rest of your nonsense is not worth anything.
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Taiwan legislature passes $25B defense bill for major US arms purchases

https://m.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/taiwan-legislature-passes-25b-defense-bill-for-major-us-arms-purchases/3931272
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ISTANBUL (AA) - Taiwan's opposition-controlled legislature on Friday passed a special defense budget bill allowing an additional $25 billion in spending to fund major US arms purchases.

Four days ahead of your President Trump's visit to China…..well played Mr. President.
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hokiewolf said:

No, you are reading the NY Times who is leaning on opinions of the intelligence community. Well, whose opinions? Is it US? Is it Israeli? Russia? China? They don't say.

Further, absolutely, Iran has missiles available. Unfortunately they are buried underground. So, they are not readily available.

As far as drones, sure they have them for now. How are they going to get the parts for them and then build them? The blockade of Iranian ports helps prevent that.

I'm glad to see that you are now taking the military and its budget seriously though.

Like I said, a lot of good has happened, some mistakes, but to act like this is a catastrophe is just not happening and degrades your issues with this war.

Lol, I keep forgetting that you're absolutely loony on this topic.

Ok, man, leaving an even crazier version of the Iranian regime intact at the low low cost of the global economy definitely isn't an idiotic catastrophe. Maybe if you pray hard enough we'll launch a ground invasion.
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SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

No, you are reading the NY Times who is leaning on opinions of the intelligence community. Well, whose opinions? Is it US? Is it Israeli? Russia? China? They don't say.

Further, absolutely, Iran has missiles available. Unfortunately they are buried underground. So, they are not readily available.

As far as drones, sure they have them for now. How are they going to get the parts for them and then build them? The blockade of Iranian ports helps prevent that.

I'm glad to see that you are now taking the military and its budget seriously though.

Like I said, a lot of good has happened, some mistakes, but to act like this is a catastrophe is just not happening and degrades your issues with this war.

Lol, I keep forgetting that you're absolutely loony on this topic.

Ok, man, leaving an even crazier version of the Iranian regime intact at the low low cost of the global economy definitely isn't an idiotic catastrophe. Maybe if you pray hard enough we'll launch a ground invasion.


Who exactly do you say is in charge? Please be specific.

You make these outlandish claims, ships "attacked" , "$10 dollar gas", "even crazier regime"….be specific in your comments so we can save the receipts.

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The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"
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More Democrat fraud. Fraud investigations, and prosecutions lead to more fraud prosecution of bigger fish.
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hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.
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#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.
it's just perspective. Look I get it, Trump is polarizing. I do t really like him and some of the things he does, but to sit there and act like nothing good happened is a bit ridiculous. Honestly same goes for when a democrat is in office.
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Democrats run **** into the ground. But what you haven't figured out yet is that it's on purpose. #Globalism
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Graphically, like we already know.
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Don't doubt the infiltration isn't into red conservate states too.
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This guy is a Soros funded DA for Fairfax county, Virginia
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

No, you are reading the NY Times who is leaning on opinions of the intelligence community. Well, whose opinions? Is it US? Is it Israeli? Russia? China? They don't say.

Further, absolutely, Iran has missiles available. Unfortunately they are buried underground. So, they are not readily available.

As far as drones, sure they have them for now. How are they going to get the parts for them and then build them? The blockade of Iranian ports helps prevent that.

I'm glad to see that you are now taking the military and its budget seriously though.

Like I said, a lot of good has happened, some mistakes, but to act like this is a catastrophe is just not happening and degrades your issues with this war.

Lol, I keep forgetting that you're absolutely loony on this topic.

Ok, man, leaving an even crazier version of the Iranian regime intact at the low low cost of the global economy definitely isn't an idiotic catastrophe. Maybe if you pray hard enough we'll launch a ground invasion.


Who exactly do you say is in charge? Please be specific.

You make these outlandish claims, ships "attacked" , "$10 dollar gas", "even crazier regime"….be specific in your comments so we can save the receipts.

Lol, "outlandish" claims. Is that what MAGA calls "reality", which generally contradicts Dear Leader's pronouncements?

The previous Ayatollah's son, who was maimed when we killed his dad, is in "charge", but it's assumed that hardliners in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard are actually running the show now.
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Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.

Fun fact: The new ayatollah is so nuts that his dad had planned to make sure that his son wouldn't become the new ayatollah. So much for that. And we just maimed that guy and killed his dad. He's gonna be fun.

And the hardliners in the IRGC actually running things atm are the ones who seized the Strait of Hormuz and are telling Trump to go **** himself, something the previous leaders never did. Remember last year when we bombed the crap out them and this didn't happen?

We already have plenty of evidence that these guys are going to be even crazier. Amazing that someone would not understand this.

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Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.

Our forebears put up with gas coupon rationing, meatless Mondays and wheatless Tuesdays to fight a war and stop genocide. Our current generations, softened by the good times of the past forty years prior to 2020, sometimes seem unworthy of the sacrifices of the past.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.

Fun fact: The new ayatollah is so nuts that his dad had planned to make sure that his son wouldn't become the new ayatollah. So much for that. And we just maimed that guy and killed his dad. He's gonna be fun.

And the hardliners in the IRGC actually running things atm are the ones who seized the Strait of Hormuz and are telling Trump to go **** himself, something the previous leaders never did. Remember last year when we bombed the crap out them and this didn't happen?

We already have plenty of evidence that these guys are going to be even crazier. Amazing that someone would not understand this.


you think that's going to end well for them? All indications of how things are going economically in Iran point to no
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

hokiewolf said:

No, you are reading the NY Times who is leaning on opinions of the intelligence community. Well, whose opinions? Is it US? Is it Israeli? Russia? China? They don't say.

Further, absolutely, Iran has missiles available. Unfortunately they are buried underground. So, they are not readily available.

As far as drones, sure they have them for now. How are they going to get the parts for them and then build them? The blockade of Iranian ports helps prevent that.

I'm glad to see that you are now taking the military and its budget seriously though.

Like I said, a lot of good has happened, some mistakes, but to act like this is a catastrophe is just not happening and degrades your issues with this war.

Lol, I keep forgetting that you're absolutely loony on this topic.

Ok, man, leaving an even crazier version of the Iranian regime intact at the low low cost of the global economy definitely isn't an idiotic catastrophe. Maybe if you pray hard enough we'll launch a ground invasion.


Who exactly do you say is in charge? Please be specific.

You make these outlandish claims, ships "attacked" , "$10 dollar gas", "even crazier regime"….be specific in your comments so we can save the receipts.

Lol, "outlandish" claims. Is that what MAGA calls "reality", which generally contradicts Dear Leader's pronouncements?

The previous Ayatollah's son, who was maimed when we killed his dad, is in "charge", but it's assumed that hardliners in the Islamic Revolutionary Guard are actually running the show now.


The Ayatollah's son is dead. The IRG are infighting. No one can trust anyone else. Anyone with money is leaving the country.

As much as you hope, wish and pray for defeat it's not happening.
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Oldsouljer said:

Cthepack said:

hokiewolf said:

The past leadership murdered 30-40k of their own citizens. So the new regime has a long way to go to be "even crazier"


Amazing that someone would not understand this. I would pay $20 a gallon to stop this from happening.

Our forebears put up with gas coupon rationing, meatless Mondays and wheatless Tuesdays to fight a war and stop genocide. Our current generations, softened by the good times of the past forty years prior to 2020, sometimes seem unworthy of the sacrifices of the past.

Totally agree. If the biggest issue in your life is that gas prices get to $10 a gallon while eliminating a terrorist regime, you have it pretty well.

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