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Gulfstream4
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hokiewolf said:

Legislation being crafted and debated through committee rather than dictated from the Speakers Office would be a great first step.


Can't do that when one party's entire political objective is not to govern but to GET TRUMP.
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My guy Mike!

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Civilized said:

My guy Mike!




Now we like Mike!
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.

Glad to see the 3 blind mice's gloating and celebrating. #SunTzu once again, it had to be coming.



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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

My guy Mike!




Now we like Mike!

Love that ****ing guy.
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Q: Who coined the phrase "nothing can stop what is coming"?

A: Q

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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

My guy Mike!




Now we like Mike!

Love that ****ing guy.

Poor #Sieve.

#Sieve, you've not figured out this #SunTzu stuff yet?
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

My guy Mike!




Now we like Mike!

Love that ****ing guy.


I know you do! You need allies in your war on your great President Trump.
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hokiewolf said:

Legislation being crafted and debated through committee rather than dictated from the Speakers Office would be a great first step.


All for it
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?


Thank you Gulf, thank you. I'm riding high today.

Seriously, the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful, punitive, not well-reasoned, unconstitutional, and just all around stupid.

Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall.

I'm very pleased with this ruling.

The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling.

That said, tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike.

Good riddance, tariffs!

Civ, let me deal with your points:

  • the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful - so far, that's an opinion not based in economic data
  • punitive - really? Not seeing that one either, so far
  • not well-reasoned - opinion
  • Unconstitutional - well, only some were ruled that way. Others were not and most likely all tariffs will follow those other statutes
  • just all around stupid - opinion
  • Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall. - how can you think that? The tariffs will not go away. In fact, don't be surprised we end up with more strenuous tariffs in the future.
  • The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling. - two things: 1) do we really have 340M citizens in the country? 2) I agree with the unhappy part. That said, I'm not unhappy with this ruling. I'm happy that we have a ruling and guidelines moving forward. I believe in tariffs for certain reasons and hope Trump uses them to drive more manufacturing in the US.
  • tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike. - opinion
  • Good riddance, tariffs! - as Leo Corso would say… not so fast, my friend!
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

It means they probably still feel the need to pack the court.
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LOL.
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Truth hurts
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watering the lawn, nice and steady.
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This irrigation head is a high rate one, LOL.
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Celebrities worked hard against Trump. Wonder why?

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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?


Thank you Gulf, thank you. I'm riding high today.

Seriously, the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful, punitive, not well-reasoned, unconstitutional, and just all around stupid.

Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall.

I'm very pleased with this ruling.

The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling.

That said, tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike.

Good riddance, tariffs!

Civ, let me deal with your points:

  • the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful - so far, that's an opinion not based in economic data
  • punitive - really? Not seeing that one either, so far
  • not well-reasoned - opinion
  • Unconstitutional - well, only some were ruled that way. Others were not and most likely all tariffs will follow those other statutes
  • just all around stupid - opinion
  • Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall. - how can you think that? The tariffs will not go away. In fact, don't be surprised we end up with more strenuous tariffs in the future.
  • The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling. - two things: 1) do we really have 340M citizens in the country? 2) I agree with the unhappy part. That said, I'm not unhappy with this ruling. I'm happy that we have a ruling and guidelines moving forward. I believe in tariffs for certain reasons and hope Trump uses them to drive more manufacturing in the US.
  • tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike. - opinion
  • Good riddance, tariffs! - as Leo Corso would say… not so fast, my friend!


LOL it's not an "opinion" any more than saying the sky is blue.

Job growth down. Trade deficit up. Prices up. Investment in manufacturing down. Tariff revenue vastly lower than advertised, and basically a wealth transfer from Americans into government coffers and then into Trump slush funds anyway.

There are all sorts of metrics that point to them being a total, predictable cluster, just like economist have always said.

Can you give us any sound quantitative evidence that tariffs are actually helping America?
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100%. Mystifying how much Trump voters are pot-committed to letting him do whatever he wants to do, no matter how economically, ethically, or practically unsound for America and Americans.

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lol, we're on Earth2 now

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"The tariffs will not go away. In fact, don't be surprised we end up with more strenuous tariffs in the future."

I seem to remember there being an issue about Biden losing in the Supreme Court on student loan debt forgiveness and you joined the majority here (including me) that Biden trying to ignore the ruling to get what he wanted politically was a bad thing.

Is Trump vowing to continue to apply tariffs by any means necessary not the same bad thing?
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Good. Well past time to reign in executive power.

Now get us out of the emergency declaration from COVID please


The COVID emergency declaration ended in 2023. How about we start clearing out the other 50 that are still active, oldest being 1979. "Emergency" powers are broken

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States
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hokiewolf said:

"The tariffs will not go away. In fact, don't be surprised we end up with more strenuous tariffs in the future."

I seem to remember there being an issue about Biden losing in the Supreme Court on student loan debt forgiveness and you joined the majority here (including me) that Biden trying to ignore the ruling to get what he wanted politically was a bad thing.

Is Trump vowing to continue to apply tariffs by any means necessary not the same bad thing?

Continuing tariffs through other legal authorities that exist doesn't seem analogous to me, because Biden had no alternative authorities to fall back upon to justify student loan forgiveness once the Court ruled against him.
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It's photoshopped. ;-) #sheeple
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

"The tariffs will not go away. In fact, don't be surprised we end up with more strenuous tariffs in the future."

I seem to remember there being an issue about Biden losing in the Supreme Court on student loan debt forgiveness and you joined the majority here (including me) that Biden trying to ignore the ruling to get what he wanted politically was a bad thing.

Is Trump vowing to continue to apply tariffs by any means necessary not the same bad thing?

Continuing tariffs through other legal authorities that exist doesn't seem analogous to me, because Biden had no alternative authorities to fall back upon to justify student loan forgiveness once the Court ruled against him.
the 10% tariffs he announced aren't legal either. Rhetoric is the same though
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

My guy Mike!




Now we like Mike!

Love that ****ing guy.

#Sieve, you're love the guys on this list, they're your guys. R u excited about it, #Sieve?


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