TRUMP 2024

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caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

El Lobo Loco said:

hokiewolf said:

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Doing my required homework

Power trumps tariffs as another US aluminium smelter shuts

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/power-trumps-tariffs-another-us-aluminium-smelter-shuts-2026-02-18/

So it's not the tariffs after all. Price of energy is the driving factor behind not reopening a plant that shut down in 2022.

no but tariffs are making Aluminum cost more without the benefit of creating more domestic production.

The article says that one of the primary drivers of the higher power costs is the increased consumption due to AI. It seems the real question is how do we bring the cost of power down to the point where it makes sense to run these operations? In my opinion, we need to be looking very seriously at small scale nuclear plants.

Coal!

electricity was already supposed to be half the price in January. Wonder what happened.

It really is time for you to run for President…
hokiewolf
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lol

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Werewolf
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Rothschild? Did I spell it right, #Fatbuoy?
Werewolf
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And the tar and feathering continues.....


TheStorm
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"no, but"...

Hilarious.
Civilized
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I may start posting a daily lunacy update.

It's a never-before-seen firehose of grift, narcissism, illegality, and capture by incompetent advisers, special interests, lobbyists, and the billionaire class.





Werewolf
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Werewolf
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#Sieve, it won't be signing over Biden's name, it will be complete removal of Biden's name. Stay tuned, #sheep.
hokiewolf
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More homework. We need to consistently be over 4% to maintain entitlements that no one want to reform.

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hokiewolf
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Alysa Liu. Wouldn't be an American gold medalist if her Dad came to the country as a refugee in 2025/2026


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Civilized
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Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.

FlossyDFlynt
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Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Good. Well past time to reign in executive power.

Now get us out of the emergency declaration from COVID please
hokiewolf
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Up to Congress now. Trump will find other means to impose tariffs again.
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Gulfstream4
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Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?
SmaptyWolf
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


So expect more outrage tomorrow? Got it.
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.
hokiewolf
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Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.
The opinions are all extremely long 20+ pages. I wouldn't rush to judgement on the dissents until there's real analysis done. A dissent doesn't mean they agree with how tariffs are applied.
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Civilized
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hokiewolf said:

Civilized said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.




Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.

The opinions are all extremely long 20+ pages. I wouldn't rush to judgement on the dissents until there's real analysis done. A dissent doesn't mean they agree with how tariffs are applied.


The reasoning can definitely get legally pedantic sometimes.

And when I said "Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure," I really meant "look forward to listening to the Advisory Opinions pod on the subject.

I ain't reading all that.
Gulfstream4
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?
Civilized
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Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Civilized said:

Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?


Thank you Gulf, thank you. I'm riding high today.

Seriously, the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful, punitive, not well-reasoned, unconstitutional, and just all around stupid.

Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall.

I'm very pleased with this ruling.

The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling.

That said, tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike.

Good riddance, tariffs!
Civilized
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Gorsuch from the top rope. Impossible to say it better.

caryking
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Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...
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caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:
Werewolf
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I'll predict a FAVORABLE outcome.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
Civilized
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caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...


Agree.
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FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.
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Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.

I do. We have checks and balances for a reason. Didnt like it when Biden tried to work around the court with his student loan relief, and I dont like it here. Both are wrong and set terrible precedence.
hokiewolf
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.

I do. We have checks and balances for a reason. Didnt like it when Biden tried to work around the court with his student loan relief, and I dont like it here. Both are wrong and set terrible precedence.
sorry you can't say that here because then you'll be told you're uninformed, fat, lazy, living off your parents money, a bad parent, etc. good Luck bro.
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FlossyDFlynt
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hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.

I do. We have checks and balances for a reason. Didnt like it when Biden tried to work around the court with his student loan relief, and I dont like it here. Both are wrong and set terrible precedence.

sorry you can't say that here because then you'll be told you're uninformed, fat, lazy, living off your parents money, a bad parent, etc. good Luck bro.

Heres the fun part. I dont care
hokiewolf
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Have it sustained over 3 years and one of them stalk you outside this forum and get back to me
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Gulfstream4
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FlossyDFlynt said:

Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.

I do. We have checks and balances for a reason. Didnt like it when Biden tried to work around the court with his student loan relief, and I dont like it here. Both are wrong and set terrible precedence.


Maybe I was unclear but I meant I don't have a problem with the ruling from the SC.

It's the way it works. I'm not going to outrage and scream at the sky claiming the ruling is a "threat to our democracy".
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Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

Gulfstream4 said:

FlossyDFlynt said:

caryking said:

Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...

Kavanaugh said as much in his dissenting opinion based on an excerpt I saw.

Unfortunately, I agree that I dont think this will be the end of it.

This sums up my thoughts much more eloquently than I could:



Honestly, I don't have a problem with it.

I do. We have checks and balances for a reason. Didnt like it when Biden tried to work around the court with his student loan relief, and I dont like it here. Both are wrong and set terrible precedence.


Maybe I was unclear but I meant I don't have a problem with the ruling from the SC.

It's the way it works. I'm not going to outrage and scream at the sky claiming the ruling is a "threat to our democracy".

Oh I am not either. I think its the government working as intended, which is becoming more and more rare these days
hokiewolf
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Legislation being crafted and debated through committee rather than dictated from the Speakers Office would be a great first step.
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