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In reply to hokiewolf • 7:29p, 2/19/26
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Doing my required homework

Power trumps tariffs as another US aluminium smelter shuts

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/power-trumps-tariffs-another-us-aluminium-smelter-shuts-2026-02-18/

So it's not the tariffs after all. Price of energy is the driving factor behind not reopening a plant that shut down in 2022.

no but tariffs are making Aluminum cost more without the benefit of creating more domestic production.

The article says that one of the primary drivers of the higher power costs is the increased consumption due to AI. It seems the real question is how do we bring the cost of power down to the point where it makes sense to run these operations? In my opinion, we need to be looking very seriously at small scale nuclear plants.

Coal!

electricity was already supposed to be half the price in January. Wonder what happened.

It really is time for you to run for President…
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7:38p, 2/19/26
lol

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9:47p, 2/19/26
Rothschild? Did I spell it right, #Fatbuoy?
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10:07p, 2/19/26
And the tar and feathering continues.....


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8:08a
"no, but"...

Hilarious.
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8:22a
I may start posting a daily lunacy update.

It's a never-before-seen firehose of grift, narcissism, illegality, and capture by incompetent advisers, special interests, lobbyists, and the billionaire class.





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In reply to Civilized • 8:29a
#Sieve, it won't be signing over Biden's name, it will be complete removal of Biden's name. Stay tuned, #sheep.
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9:20a
More homework. We need to consistently be over 4% to maintain entitlements that no one want to reform.

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9:23a
Alysa Liu. Wouldn't be an American gold medalist if her Dad came to the country as a refugee in 2025/2026


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10:25a
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.

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In reply to Civilized • 10:31a
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Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Good. Well past time to reign in executive power.

Now get us out of the emergency declaration from COVID please
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In reply to Civilized • 10:33a
Up to Congress now. Trump will find other means to impose tariffs again.
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In reply to Civilized • 10:44a
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Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 10:59a
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 11:07a
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Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


So expect more outrage tomorrow? Got it.
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 11:27a
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.
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In reply to SmaptyWolf • 11:29a
SmaptyWolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:40p
Civilized said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.
The opinions are all extremely long 20+ pages. I wouldn't rush to judgement on the dissents until there's real analysis done. A dissent doesn't mean they agree with how tariffs are applied.
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In reply to hokiewolf • 12:47p
hokiewolf said:
Civilized said:
SmaptyWolf said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.



Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?

Lol, no. It means that this was so over the top obvious that there was no way they could rule in favor of Trump and keep any pretense of credibility. And it was still a 6-3 ruling.


Exactly.

There was simply no way for the SC to deny the unconstitutionality of these legally groundless tariffs and maintain their reputation, and yet still there were 3 dissenters to that opinion.

Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure.

The opinions are all extremely long 20+ pages. I wouldn't rush to judgement on the dissents until there's real analysis done. A dissent doesn't mean they agree with how tariffs are applied.


The reasoning can definitely get legally pedantic sometimes.

And when I said "Look forward to reading the minority opinion on this one for sure," I really meant "look forward to listening to the Advisory Opinions pod on the subject.

I ain't reading all that.
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In reply to Civilized • 12:52p
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?
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In reply to Gulfstream4 • 1:26p
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Gulfstream4 said:
Civilized said:
Finally, sanity.

Overdue but incredibly welcomed.


Does this mean the democrat cries of the SC doing the bidding for the President were false?


"Doing the bidding" sounds unnecessarily dramatic.

But let's not pretend this court isn't as or more conservative than any court dating back a century.

Trump got lucky and appointed 3 justices in 4 years, so the court leans further right than it has in generations.

That is definitely true.


Congrats on your victory.

Call me crazy but me thinks the democrats will be back to outraging when the next ruling doesn't go their way?


Thank you Gulf, thank you. I'm riding high today.

Seriously, the tariffs were always predictably economically harmful, punitive, not well-reasoned, unconstitutional, and just all around stupid.

Hopefully this will give American and international companies more certainty and confidence to invest in our country, along with reducing inflation, and hopefully allowing rates to fall.

I'm very pleased with this ruling.

The country has 340 million people and roughly half of those people (that care about issues anyway) will be unhappy with every ruling.

That said, tariffs were always colossally dumb and unconstitutional, made worse by Trump's openly using them as a cudgel against friends and foes alike.

Good riddance, tariffs!
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1:50p
Gorsuch from the top rope. Impossible to say it better.

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2:01p
Listening to Trump... he feels emboldened by the ruling. He says the clarity provides him more power to impose restrictions (tariffs) ongoing. So, the SC has spoken on a specific statute; however, according to Trump, it sounds like he is going to use other statutes to get what he wants...

So, don't sit there thinking this ends as some may want...
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