TRUMP 2024

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Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.
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You totally don't have a mental illness.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

India, the country with the most people in the world.
Werewolf
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#Sieve, if you weren't so young i'd worry about you stroking out. Too funny!
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Ahh, there we go with those polls again!
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caryking
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.
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For those on here that go on and on about how any leftist or anti-Trump opinion must only be from unquenchable consumption of CNN and MSNBC, the Dispatch is a fantastic fact-driven, center-right news source that I read a lot.

I don't always agree with Jonah Goldberg, but he is a very serious researcher and journalist and editor, and whether I agree with him or not on a particular topic, I appreciate his approach and his work very much.

This is a great article about the Cracker Barrel logo stupidity and the fallacy of seeing wokeness skeletons in every closet.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/cracker-barrel-capitalism/
Werewolf
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Recent declassifications led by @DNIGabbard have highlighted the seriousness of what @POTUS @realDonaldTrump accurately described as both "treason" and "a coup" against a duly elected administration.

These actions, rooted in the @BarackObama era, represented not merely political opposition but an assault on the very foundations of our Constitutional Republic.

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The American people will have an opportunity to witness if one so chooses.
Gulfstream4
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Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.


That's the difference in me a you. I DGAF what other people in their third world sh*tholes think. I care what Americans think and they thought enough to put him in office. You and the other ***** liberals around the world can enjoy that!
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Oldsouljer said:

Ahh, there we go with those polls again!


Civ is have a TDS fueled meltdown and I'm enjoying it.
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lol
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Civilized said:

For those on here that go on and on about how any leftist or anti-Trump opinion must only be from unquenchable consumption of CNN and MSNBC, the Dispatch is a fantastic fact-driven, center-right news source that I read a lot.

I don't always agree with Jonah Goldberg, but he is a very serious researcher and journalist and editor, and whether I agree with him or not on a particular topic, I appreciate his approach and his work very much.

This is a great article about the Cracker Barrel logo stupidity and the fallacy of seeing wokeness skeletons in every closet.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/cracker-barrel-capitalism/

Jonah Goldberg lost all credibility years ago. He's a globalist that hates Trump. I've been his stuff for years. I've bought and read many of his books.

The guy is not objective at all anymore. I didn't read the article; however, if he's saying that wokism isn't good for capitalism, well, any squirrel knows that.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?
caryking
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The only way they will all these people is to after them for racketeering. It appears to be an organized crime; therefore, racketeering…
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I do enjoy the left's recent takes that Cracker Barrel rebranding is due to capitalism and American Eagle rebranding is due to white nationalism. It exemplifies why the democratic party is a failing party.
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Civilized
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

His popularity is 8-10 points lower today than it was on Election Day so I doubt very much he'd win by more today than he did then. That's not a logical conclusion. Keep in mind he also had the benefit of running against an infirm lame duck Dem that should have been enjoying his twilight years with his family, and then against that guy's emergency replacement.

I think it's a big electoral blunder for the right to extrapolate too much from that win and think they've suddenly cornered the market on the electorate, especially for culture war reasons. Trump won because he was running against weak candidates, immigration, and post-Covid inflation.

As an aside I'm glad to see you falling right in with the board's typically childish "how does that taste you losing loser" conversation contributions.

Did I spend Biden's four years on here telling righties to take it, and make sure to relax and enjoy it? No I did not. I didn't single posters out then and I don't do it now.

Again, I don't know why it's so hard to just talk about the our leader's actions and inactions and the perceptions of their behaviors amongst the electorate without bringing posters into it.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

For those on here that go on and on about how any leftist or anti-Trump opinion must only be from unquenchable consumption of CNN and MSNBC, the Dispatch is a fantastic fact-driven, center-right news source that I read a lot.

I don't always agree with Jonah Goldberg, but he is a very serious researcher and journalist and editor, and whether I agree with him or not on a particular topic, I appreciate his approach and his work very much.

This is a great article about the Cracker Barrel logo stupidity and the fallacy of seeing wokeness skeletons in every closet.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/cracker-barrel-capitalism/

Jonah Goldberg lost all credibility years ago. He's a globalist that hates Trump. I've been his stuff for years. I've bought and read many of his books.

The guy is not objective at all anymore. I didn't read the article; however, if he's saying that wokism isn't good for capitalism, well, any squirrel knows that.
pretty exciting demonstration of what you guys accuse Civ of doing - not reading opinions that you disagree with doesn't help your argument.
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Civilized said:

For those on here that go on and on about how any leftist or anti-Trump opinion must only be from unquenchable consumption of CNN and MSNBC, the Dispatch is a fantastic fact-driven, center-right news source that I read a lot.

I don't always agree with Jonah Goldberg, but he is a very serious researcher and journalist and editor, and whether I agree with him or not on a particular topic, I appreciate his approach and his work very much.

This is a great article about the Cracker Barrel logo stupidity and the fallacy of seeing wokeness skeletons in every closet.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/cracker-barrel-capitalism/
we are leaving the populist stage of Hiey P Long and entering the next step of Joe McCarthy. Just replace communism with wokeism.

Exciting times of repeating history!
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Keep in mind that Trump was running against an infirm lame duck Dem that Dems told you was mentally competent until their overlords told them he wasn't. Regardless of his years of blunders, stutters, inability to read the teleprompter, Dems still said he was mentally acute and would still have voted for him even being an infirm lame duck. Please ignore the revisionist history of posters that incessantly lie about their positions and posting history, Cary.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

His popularity is 8-10 points lower today than it was on Election Day so I doubt very much he'd win by more today than he did then. That's not a logical conclusion. Keep in mind he also had the benefit of running against an infirm lame duck Dem that should have been enjoying his twilight years with his family, and then against that guy's emergency replacement.

I think it's a big electoral blunder for the right to extrapolate too much from that win and think they've suddenly cornered the market on the electorate, especially for culture war reasons. Trump won because he was running against weak candidates, immigration, and post-Covid inflation.

As an aside I'm glad to see you falling right in with the board's typically childish "how does that taste you losing loser" conversation contributions.

Did I spend Biden's four years on here telling righties to take it, and make sure to relax and enjoy it? No I did not. I didn't single posters out then and I don't do it now.

Again, I don't know why it's so hard to just talk about the our leader's actions and inactions and the perceptions of their behaviors amongst the electorate without bringing posters into it.

I will preface this by saying I did not vote for Trump.

Leadership is not a popularity contest. Leadership is making hard decisions and getting things done.

The 24 hours news (Fox and CNN) and having a system that it is more important about getting elected than it is to "LEAD" just drives me absolutely crazy. We could be so much further ahead as a country if we just spent all the energy on governing than worried winning the next election and making headlines.
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Enjoy the Show! #TheGreatAwakening is here
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We're woke enough, thank you very much.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.
yeah, don't need to hear from you on gerrymandering because frankly democrats are the experts.
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caryking
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

For those on here that go on and on about how any leftist or anti-Trump opinion must only be from unquenchable consumption of CNN and MSNBC, the Dispatch is a fantastic fact-driven, center-right news source that I read a lot.

I don't always agree with Jonah Goldberg, but he is a very serious researcher and journalist and editor, and whether I agree with him or not on a particular topic, I appreciate his approach and his work very much.

This is a great article about the Cracker Barrel logo stupidity and the fallacy of seeing wokeness skeletons in every closet.

https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/gfile/cracker-barrel-capitalism/

Jonah Goldberg lost all credibility years ago. He's a globalist that hates Trump. I've been his stuff for years. I've bought and read many of his books.

The guy is not objective at all anymore. I didn't read the article; however, if he's saying that wokism isn't good for capitalism, well, any squirrel knows that.

pretty exciting demonstration of what you guys accuse Civ of doing - not reading opinions that you disagree with doesn't help your argument.

The old saying has been thrown away along time ago…

Do as I say, not as I do, is now, Do as I do, not as I say!

I know Jonah Goldberg well enough as I've read several of his books, which in theory, I agreed with. That said, he lost all credibility with the new Republican Party because of his globalist, endless war mindset, and disdain for Trump.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.

It kills you that you keep losing!
caryking
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Cthepack said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

His popularity is 8-10 points lower today than it was on Election Day so I doubt very much he'd win by more today than he did then. That's not a logical conclusion. Keep in mind he also had the benefit of running against an infirm lame duck Dem that should have been enjoying his twilight years with his family, and then against that guy's emergency replacement.

I think it's a big electoral blunder for the right to extrapolate too much from that win and think they've suddenly cornered the market on the electorate, especially for culture war reasons. Trump won because he was running against weak candidates, immigration, and post-Covid inflation.

As an aside I'm glad to see you falling right in with the board's typically childish "how does that taste you losing loser" conversation contributions.

Did I spend Biden's four years on here telling righties to take it, and make sure to relax and enjoy it? No I did not. I didn't single posters out then and I don't do it now.

Again, I don't know why it's so hard to just talk about the our leader's actions and inactions and the perceptions of their behaviors amongst the electorate without bringing posters into it.

I will preface this by saying I did not vote for Trump.

Leadership is not a popularity contest. Leadership is making hard decisions and getting things done.

The 24 hours news (Fox and CNN) and having a system that it is more important about getting elected than it is to "LEAD" just drives me absolutely crazy. We could be so much further ahead as a country if we just spent all the energy on governing than worried winning the next election and making headlines.

Unfortunately, that's what all politicians do today. I truly mean all of them!
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.

yeah, don't need to hear from you on gerrymandering because frankly democrats are the experts.

CALS grad
Civilized
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Cthepack said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

His popularity is 8-10 points lower today than it was on Election Day so I doubt very much he'd win by more today than he did then. That's not a logical conclusion. Keep in mind he also had the benefit of running against an infirm lame duck Dem that should have been enjoying his twilight years with his family, and then against that guy's emergency replacement.

I think it's a big electoral blunder for the right to extrapolate too much from that win and think they've suddenly cornered the market on the electorate, especially for culture war reasons. Trump won because he was running against weak candidates, immigration, and post-Covid inflation.

As an aside I'm glad to see you falling right in with the board's typically childish "how does that taste you losing loser" conversation contributions.

Did I spend Biden's four years on here telling righties to take it, and make sure to relax and enjoy it? No I did not. I didn't single posters out then and I don't do it now.

Again, I don't know why it's so hard to just talk about the our leader's actions and inactions and the perceptions of their behaviors amongst the electorate without bringing posters into it.

I will preface this by saying I did not vote for Trump.

Leadership is not a popularity contest. Leadership is making hard decisions and getting things done.

The 24 hours news (Fox and CNN) and having a system that it is more important about getting elected than it is to "LEAD" just drives me absolutely crazy. We could be so much further ahead as a country if we just spent all the energy on governing than worried winning the next election and making headlines.

100% agree, brother.
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.
yeah, don't need to hear from you on gerrymandering because frankly democrats are the experts.

Is that an evidence-based conclusion or are you just trying to both-sides the issue?

"Hey GPT, have Republicans or Democrats benefited more from gerrymandering over the last few decades?"

1. Republicans Have Gained Disproportionately from Gerrymandering
A 2020 study found that when Republicans controlled redistricting over the past 20 years, their share of U.S. House seats typically increased by 9.1% in the subsequent electionwhereas Democrats saw no significant seat-share boost when they held redistricting control .
The same study reported that under Republican control, nearly one in 10 voters experienced changes to their district boundaries, creating potential confusion and voter disruption

2. Republican-Driven Initiatives Exacerbated the Impact
The REDMAP (Redistricting Majority Project), launched in 2010, helped Republicans flip control of state legislatures in key states and leverage sophisticated mapping tools to draw favorable congressional and legislative districts .
For example, Republicans controlled redistricting in over 210 House districts, compared to just 44 under Democratic control, enabling major advantage in drawing maps .
Analyses have shown that Republican-skewed maps added an estimated 16-seat advantage in the U.S. House, though Democratic gerrymanders in a few states reduced the net effect to 58 seats .

3. Broader Analyses Confirm GOP Advantage
The Brennan Center reports that in states where Republicans controlled both chambers and the governorship, they engineered district maps that gave them a net 1617 seat advantage in congressional delegations .
Post2010 reapportionment maps in battleground states (e.g., Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Ohio, Florida) consistently favored Republicans, leading to disproportionate representation, even when Democrats won the statewide vote .

4. Democrats Also Partisan, But to a Smaller Extent
Democrats have used redistricting strategically in certain statessuch as Illinois, New Mexico, Oregon, and New Jerseyto shore up incumbents or gain extra seats .
However, these Democratic efforts are generally more limited in scale and effectiveness compared to the fortress-like Republican gerrymanders seen in other states .

ETA: almost forgot Professor GPT's conclusion!

Conclusion

Over the last 20 years, Republicans have generally been more effective and influential in leveraging gerrymandering for partisan gain. The data shows they not only achieved larger seat-share increases when in control, but also broader voter disruption, aided by coordinated strategies like REDMAP and extensive state-level control.

Democrats have engaged in gerrymandering in specific states, but their overall impact appears less consistent and less substantial when compared to Republican efforts.



If you'd like, I can break this down further by state, or walk through how independent commissions have changed the dynamic in specific regions.
Werewolf
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#Sieve, you and #Nappy have a brethren and don't even understand it! Principled, LOL
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
SmaptyWolf
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hokiewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

Gulfstream4 said:

Werewolf said:

#WINNING; that's what it's called, #Sieve.


All he does is win. No wonder our liberal friends hate him so much. Heck, I would too if I were in their shoes.

Yes, hundreds of millions of people around the world think Trump is a colossal clown because...he wins too much.

Oh, and because he didn't come up through the political ranks.

You guys sure have your ears to the streets.

And… hundreds of millions of people thinks he's great! Civ, you don't like Trump, we get it. Your narrative about people thinking he is a colossal clown certainly didn't prohibit the majority in voting for him.

it really does pain you to be in the minority, by vote and electorally..

LOLOL

Really? Trump's approval rating is sub-40%.

I guarantee you that "Trump winning" (winning what exactly? A self-inflicted trade war that's a tax on the American people?) and "Trump not coming up through the political ranks" would not make a top-20 list of reasons why 60%+ of the country disapprove of the job he's doing.

And I'm really curious for y'all to name me another halfway developed nation other than Poland or Russia where Trump would have any significant electoral support. And I'm not even sure he would in Russia. And no, North Korea doesn't count.

You guys twist yourself into a pretzel trying to come up with reasons why Trump is seen as such a buffoon by the American left, some Republicans, and the rest of the developed world when the answer is simply that he's a buffoon.

Civ can't win here in the US, so, as a typical liberal globalist, he tries to bring Trumps electability to other countries. Civ… who cares?

I don't!

BTW, half of Europe were in the White House kissing his hand in front of the world, last week…. Again, who cares? I don't!!

LOL

He has historically low approval ratings in America, Cary.

Forget Europe, he's not popular here.

But I'm sure his historically low approval is because he's doing so much winning.

Trump would win by a larger margin today. Grant it, I realize people don't like the person, that is Trump; however, they support the majority of the policies.

losing hasn't settle well for you, has it?

Trump is so confident, he's desperately trying to gerrymander every red state he can mid-decade to steal congressional seats. Such a winner!

Lol, MAGA Republicans are such pieces of crap.
yeah, don't need to hear from you on gerrymandering because frankly democrats are the experts.

Oh please. Blue states (stupidly) have been bending over backwards to create independent redistricting commissions, I guess to lead by example or something. Red states not so much…. they dropped a redistricting atomic bomb in 2010 that created a bunch of permanent Republican fiefdoms (like NC) and have never looked back.

And how many times have Dems tried to redistrict mid-decade, ignoring the Constitution? The answer will clearly surprise you.

Anyway, hope this helps:
https://gerrymander.princeton.edu/redistricting-report-card/
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