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packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Board Dems have been trying to take a victory lap about polling numbers but they never mention their own party's polling. This must be more of that critical thinking and arguing in good faith that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about.



They're the same thing.

Trump's approval is poor because it's always poor.

Dem's approval is poor because most of the country don't think they're doing enough to try to counteract the Musk and Trump clown show.
Wrong again, minion.

Trump's approval is far superior to your cult.

The world thinks your cult is a problem. The world and America have moved past you. You are in the rear view mirror screaming and crying at Trump successes and we are laughing at you.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Board Dems have been trying to take a victory lap about polling numbers but they never mention their own party's polling. This must be more of that critical thinking and arguing in good faith that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about.



They're the same thing.

Trump's approval is poor because it's always poor.

Dem's approval is poor because most of the country don't think they're doing enough to try to counteract the Musk and Trump clown show.
Yes, most of the country elected Trump so that they could have the Dems work to counteract him.
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#crticialthinking
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Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Board Dems have been trying to take a victory lap about polling numbers but they never mention their own party's polling. This must be more of that critical thinking and arguing in good faith that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about.



They're the same thing.

Trump's approval is poor because it's always poor.

Dem's approval is poor because most of the country don't think they're doing enough to try to counteract the Musk and Trump clown show.
Yes, most of the country elected Trump so that they could have the Dems work to counteract him.
Lol exactly and dems approval has been poor way before Trump came into office.
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jkpackfan said:

Oldsouljer said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Board Dems have been trying to take a victory lap about polling numbers but they never mention their own party's polling. This must be more of that critical thinking and arguing in good faith that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about.



They're the same thing.

Trump's approval is poor because it's always poor.

Dem's approval is poor because most of the country don't think they're doing enough to try to counteract the Musk and Trump clown show.
Yes, most of the country elected Trump so that they could have the Dems work to counteract him.
Lol exactly and dems approval has been poor way before Trump came into office.

I'll give you numbskulls a hand.

Comparing presidential approval to congressional approval is apples and oranges. Congress always has low approval.

At the moment, though Dems aren't happy with their own reps because they want them to kick Trump in the teeth, hence the even lower than usual approval. Don't worry, Republican reps are still a flaming clown car with no steering wheel, as I'm sure we'll see soon.
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packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?

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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?




How much monetary support is the rest of the free world providing to Ukraine?
packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?




lol. You beta cucks crying about a peace agreement already and don't even know what has been decided. Mentally ill. Seek help.

Bubububut, the places that want to silence free speech want to keep warring!!!!


So embarrassing.
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griff17matt said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?




How much monetary support is the rest of the free world providing to Ukraine?

$30 billion, a fraction of what we have provided.
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There will be an end to this conflict and no matter what, the media will spin it as a huge Putin victory while the village idiots will come spew the BS they're told. I can't wait lol.
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jkpackfan said:

There will be an end to this conflict and no matter what, the media will spin it as a huge Putin victory while the village idiots will come spew the BS they're told. I can't wait lol.

Won't have anything to do with media spin, the proof will be in what concessions Putin has to make.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Highlighted area absolutely not the case. I am directly hearing people (outside the US) say how glad they are that Trump is forcing the issue with real discussions about ending the war, European leaders finally doing something...etc.... They feel it is far from a disaster.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Les Miserables do you hear the people sing, Governor's Dinner at the White House.

https://rumble.com/v6ok80l-les-misrables-do-you-hear-the-people-sing-governors-dinner-whitehouse-2-22-.html
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hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:



Gonna take an opposite stance on this one. I actually like the new heads of departments standing up for them. There isnt a whole lot you can do given the environment to gain trust, so do what you can.
this was written by someone who doesn't understand unions or federal worker protection laws.
Its not even that. At the end of the day, regardless of how many people are let go, someone still has to do the job. Its a much better work environment when your boss is willing to stick up for you.

On another note, lets not pretend like the email from Elon is a big ask. Ive had to write weekly status reports about what I did for the work week for the past decade, all of which are much longer than 5 bullet points.
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hokiewolf said:

FlossyDFlynt said:



Gonna take an opposite stance on this one. I actually like the new heads of departments standing up for them. There isnt a whole lot you can do given the environment to gain trust, so do what you can.
this was written by someone who doesn't understand unions or federal worker protection laws.
That is the problem I have with unions, especially government ones. No one is entitled to a job. The letter asking for a response should be ok; however, my opinion, it should have come directly from the departments.

So, in general, I don't have an issue with being asked the question. I think the execution could have been better.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?
Civ, I'll ask you the same question I asked Hokie…

What should a reasonable outcome be for both Russia and Ukraine?
packgrad
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?
Civ, I'll ask you the same question I asked Hokie…

What should a reasonable outcome be for both Russia and Ukraine?

Full confirmation of sovereignty
Compromise on restoration of borders
NATO membership or minimally, confirmation of security guarantees from allies (although they have zero reason to trust any such guarantee from us at this point, giving us pissing all over the Budapest memorandum)
Economic recovery assistance
Accountability for Putin's war crimes in Ukraine

Again, anybody at any time can engage in unilateral talks with Putin and volunteer to give him whatever he wants without having him make any concessions.

These are all reasonable outcomes for Ukraine. Can they achieve all of them? Who knows, but ending the war and achieving basically none of them is a total Putin/Russia victory.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?
Civ, I'll ask you the same question I asked Hokie…

What should a reasonable outcome be for both Russia and Ukraine?

Full confirmation of sovereignty
Compromise on restoration of borders
NATO membership or minimally, confirmation of security guarantees from allies (although they have zero reason to trust any such guarantee from us at this point, giving us pissing all over the Budapest memorandum)
Economic recovery assistance
Accountability for Putin's war crimes in Ukraine

Again, anybody at any time can engage in unilateral talks with Putin and volunteer to give him whatever he wants without having him make any concessions.

These are all reasonable outcomes for Ukraine. Can they achieve all of them? Who knows, but ending the war and achieving basically none of them is a total Putin/Russia victory.


Civ, in general, I think those are reasonable request. Now, I don't think all of them will come into an agreement. Things not going to happen or I don't see them happening are:

NATO membership. I am hearing that NATO security (whatever that means) will be part.

Economic recovery - that will probably happen; however, I don't support the US giving any money

Accountability for Putin - that will never get done. Not that I disagree with you.
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Civilized said:

griff17matt said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?




How much monetary support is the rest of the free world providing to Ukraine?

$30 billion, a fraction of what we have provided.
Then, respectfully, I couldn't give less of a **** what the "free world" thinks if they're not willing to put their money where their mouth is. All they do is spout off with saying the right things without the need to actually DO anything.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about Ukraine or Russia. I do give a damn about us sending trillions of dollars to fund their defense in a proxy war against Russia. Who exactly is winning here? Russia will inevitably win the war if no talks take place. Ukraine will lose tomorrow if we stop funding their military. The only ones truly affected by keeping this war going are the soldiers on both sides dying because of the propaganda they've ingested from their governments.

This doesn't absolve Putin. He's a horrible human and deserves the worst life can offer. But if you want a war with Russia, don't send Ukranian men to die for your thirst to see Putin get his. Have the US declare war on Russia directly. You go over and fight. Or send your kids to do it. If you want to see him ousted so badly for his war crimes...actually do something instead of say all the right platitudes.

In the words of our great modern poets, System of a Down..."Why don't presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?"
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It's crazy how the left has done a full 180 on endless funding of the MIC all because they hate Trump.
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griff17matt said:

Civilized said:

griff17matt said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Civilized said:

packgrad said:

Is this that critical thinking that cuck, Isewolf, was talking about?

Lol.

Embarrassing for both of you.

Zzzzzzzz.

You twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify Trump's mental malfunctions over Russia, Putin, Ukraine, and Zelenskyy is wild.

Trump getting butthurt because Zalenskyy isn't going to act like his ***** and then glitching and ranting about Z being a dictator and Ukraine starting the war and "negotiating" with Putin by giving Putin whatever he wants is a huge problem no matter how deep you stick your head in the sand.

Nobody in the free world other than MAGA acolytes thinks Trump's handling of Russia and Ukraine is anything other than a utter disaster.


Lol... more of this incredible critical thinking.

Trump will negotiate a truce, much to your chagrin. Because you're a brainwashed minion, you now celebrate Zelensky because he defies Trump. And you think nobody in the free world supports Trump's negotiations.

Utter stupidity.

Keep crying war monger. The war will end soon, and you will be wrong yet again.


Trump will give Putin most or all of what he wants. That's not negotiation, that's bending over. Anyone can bend over for Putin but Trump appears to be the only leader in the free world that's downright eager to.

Zalenskyy was worthy of support whether or not Trump became president again. It has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with HIS NATION GETTING INVADED.

Again, MAGA stands alone in the free world on the issue of wanting to stroke Putin.

Why is that?




How much monetary support is the rest of the free world providing to Ukraine?

$30 billion, a fraction of what we have provided.
Then, respectfully, I couldn't give less of a **** what the "free world" thinks if they're not willing to put their money where their mouth is. All they do is spout off with saying the right things without the need to actually DO anything.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about Ukraine or Russia. I do give a damn about us sending trillions of dollars to fund their defense in a proxy war against Russia. Who exactly is winning here? Russia will inevitably win the war if no talks take place. Ukraine will lose tomorrow if we stop funding their military. The only ones truly affected by keeping this war going are the soldiers on both sides dying because of the propaganda they've ingested from their governments.

This doesn't absolve Putin. He's a horrible human and deserves the worst life can offer. But if you want a war with Russia, don't send Ukranian men to die for your thirst to see Putin get his. Have the US declare war on Russia directly. You go over and fight. Or send your kids to do it. If you want to see him ousted so badly for his war crimes...actually do something instead of say all the right platitudes.

In the words of our great modern poets, System of a Down..."Why don't presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?"

If you don't care about outcomes here with regard to Russia then we're just fundamentally misaligned given the capacity for Russia and Putin's behaviors to negatively impact the Western world. I don't believe any Western nations have the luxury of being able to not care what Russia does.

In regarding fighting a war, funding Ukrainian support and fighting a proxy war is infinitely better and less expensive than getting pulled into an actual war, which Ukraine being given the funding to stand steadfast against Russia is intended to prevent.
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