TRUMP 2024

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Werewolf
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Where is the evidence that tariffs or the threat of tariffs brings manufacturing back to the US?
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Au and tariffs. McKinley assassinated and like Abraham Lincoln, a Republican.
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hokiewolf said:

Where is the evidence that tariffs or the threat of tariffs brings manufacturing back to the US?
Stay in Mexico agreement was established when Trump threatened tariffs. Now, did that bring jobs back to the US, probably not…. It did help establish a more controlled border.

Where is the evidence that outsourcing your job, to China, will help you and your family?
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The lamest argument is that a Tarif is a 'National Sales tax".

if Kamala wins, the corporate income tax increases. This is WORSE for the individual, why? Because it causes the price of goods and services to increase coupled with lowering wages.

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caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Where is the evidence that tariffs or the threat of tariffs brings manufacturing back to the US?
Stay in Mexico agreement was established when Trump threatened tariffs. Now, did that bring jobs back to the US, probably not…. It did help establish a more controlled border.

Where is the evidence that outsourcing your job, to China, will help you and your family?
my job can't get outsourced because the cost return is different then manufacturing. There isn't someone in China who could do my job to 1/10 of my cost.

My point is it's great to feel nostalgic about manufacturing in the good old days but transportation and technology have evolved. There are other jobs outside of manufacturing that pay the same and have the same benefits that ARE available in the US. We should not have manufacturing just for the sake of it. There needs to be an investment strategy for the company to operate and make a profit.
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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Where is the evidence that tariffs or the threat of tariffs brings manufacturing back to the US?
Stay in Mexico agreement was established when Trump threatened tariffs. Now, did that bring jobs back to the US, probably not…. It did help establish a more controlled border.

Where is the evidence that outsourcing your job, to China, will help you and your family?
my job can't get outsourced because the cost return is different then manufacturing. There isn't someone in China who could do my job to 1/10 of my cost.

My point is it's great to feel nostalgic about manufacturing in the good old days but transportation and technology have evolved. There are other jobs outside of manufacturing that pay the same and have the same benefits that ARE available in the US. We should not have manufacturing just for the sake of it. There needs to be an investment strategy for the company to operate and make a profit.
Lol, yes we should! For a bunch of reasons, but whatever.

This is where libertarians completely lose the plot. The free market is a powerful tool, but a stable and secure American society just isn't the top priority of multinational corporations. That's why you're seeing a "conservative" populist revolt that gets to reject everything Republicans did up to this point and still somehow pretend that Republicans are the answer.

Regardless, you're absolutely right that across the board tariffs would be a disaster, no matter how much the resident MAGA part-time macroeconomics experts want to pretend otherwise.
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Grieving mother spotlights Biden Harris failures at the border. Such a sad story and one of many that could have been prevented if we had a competent administration.

Here is the story.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/grieving-mother-spotlights-biden-harris-admin-s-border-failures-in-powerful-new-trump-ad-failed-my-daughter

Here is the video the Trump campaign put out.

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hokiewolf said:

caryking said:

hokiewolf said:

Where is the evidence that tariffs or the threat of tariffs brings manufacturing back to the US?
Stay in Mexico agreement was established when Trump threatened tariffs. Now, did that bring jobs back to the US, probably not…. It did help establish a more controlled border.

Where is the evidence that outsourcing your job, to China, will help you and your family?
my job can't get outsourced because the cost return is different then manufacturing. There isn't someone in China who could do my job to 1/10 of my cost.

My point is it's great to feel nostalgic about manufacturing in the good old days but transportation and technology have evolved. There are other jobs outside of manufacturing that pay the same and have the same benefits that ARE available in the US. We should not have manufacturing just for the sake of it. There needs to be an investment strategy for the company to operate and make a profit.
So, your job can't be outsourced, but others can and that's ok with you?

I fully get we've had an evolving technology explosion; however, goods have come to the ports the same old fashion way… by boat! Others than processing PO's and communicating being more easy, the boats have gotten bigger, perhaps more efficient. Outside of that, not much is different.

BTW, this isn't a nostalgia thing at all. I'm sure you ride around town, in areas less fortunate, and see people sitting on their porch, right? You might be one of those people that have said… get out and go to work. I know I have! Where are these people going to get a job? I'm sure your construction company can't hire everyone, right? Well, some of manufacturing jobs could go to these people, right?
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Article regarding John Kelly

https://nypost.com/2024/10/29/opinion/i-was-trumps-chief-of-staff-hitler-claims-are-deranged/
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Grieving mother spotlights Biden Harris failures at the border. Such a sad story and one of many that could have been prevented if we had a competent administration.

Here is the story.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/grieving-mother-spotlights-biden-harris-admin-s-border-failures-in-powerful-new-trump-ad-failed-my-daughter

Here is the video the Trump campaign put out.




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Today Trump referred to his rabid MSG rally as "an absolute love-fest". And of course the January 6 insurrection was a "day of love".

Man, we are way into George Orwell territory. Up is down, folks.
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Heading that way, baby! Silver too.

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Can't hire enough people in Construction right now. If you want to learn a trade you're set for life.
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hokiewolf said:

Can't hire enough people in Construction right now. If you want to learn a trade you're set for life.

Yep. Was just talking to our siding guy about this.

He hires experienced foremen but for his hands and junior guys he consistently hires away from the restaurant industry and trains them. Can't find guys otherwise.

Skilled trades that require certifications or licenses are even tighter.

Construction labor market is crazy, has been for years but it's not improving.
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Trump supporters are fascists, Nazis and now garbage. Coming from the leader of the free world, the guy that was going to unite the country.

"The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters."

https://nypost.com/2024/10/29/us-news/biden-says-only-garbage-i-see-floating-is-trump-supporters/
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Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.
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Oldsoulja, you paying attention?
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#Sieve, remember #SunTzu and, of course, #devolution

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oh, by the way, #Sieve........#boomerang
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D. O. G. E. Coin.

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Werewolf said:

Oldsoulja, you paying attention?

Maybe this too ;-)

The Yellow Jack ("Quebec") signal flag, is a plain yellow banner that was historically used to signify a vessel was, or might be, harboring a dangerous disease and needed to be quarantined (the flag represents the letter "Q").
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Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.


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packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.
packofwolves
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SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
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packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
Lol, Puerto Rico's "actual garbage issue"? That's what he was highlighting at Trump's "closing argument" mega-rally where they trashed every other minority group for good measure? You really think anyone's buying that? GTFO.
packofwolves
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SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
Lol, Puerto Rico's "actual garbage issue"? That's what he was highlighting at Trump's "closing argument" mega-rally where they trashed every other minority group for good measure? You really think anyone's buying that? GTFO.


LOL, here is the actual quote:

"There's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. It's called Puerto Rico,"

Are you even aware of how bad the issue is in Puerto Rico? Dems, liberal media and MSM's are blowing it up only for political reasons.

Let me guess, you are probably ok with George Lopez joking about Mexicans being thieves.

A comedian making a bad joke is not the same as the leader of the free world making that statement, not as a joke.
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packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
Lol, Puerto Rico's "actual garbage issue"? That's what he was highlighting at Trump's "closing argument" mega-rally where they trashed every other minority group for good measure? You really think anyone's buying that? GTFO.


LOL, here is the actual quote:

"There's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. It's called Puerto Rico,"

Are you even aware of how bad the issue is in Puerto Rico? Dems, liberal media and MSM's are blowing it up only for political reasons.

Let me guess, you are probably ok with George Lopez joking about Mexicans being thieves.
Oh yes, it's just the liberal media "blowing up" your innocent yet inexplicably televised Klan meeting. Let's roll the tape!



Obviously so much concern for their garbage crises! /facepalm
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packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
Lol, Puerto Rico's "actual garbage issue"? That's what he was highlighting at Trump's "closing argument" mega-rally where they trashed every other minority group for good measure? You really think anyone's buying that? GTFO.


LOL, here is the actual quote:

"There's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. It's called Puerto Rico,"

Are you even aware of how bad the issue is in Puerto Rico? Dems, liberal media and MSM's are blowing it up only for political reasons.

Let me guess, you are probably ok with George Lopez joking about Mexicans being thieves.

A comedian making a bad joke is not the same as the leader of the free world making that statement, not as a joke.
You have heard the words coming out of Trump's mouth this entire campaign, right?

Anyway, the White House clarified that he was referring to Trump supporters' hateful rhetoric as garbage. Wow, spinning is so fun... I can see why you guys do it nonstop.
caryking
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hokiewolf said:

Can't hire enough people in Construction right now. If you want to learn a trade you're set for life.
Let's outsource a good portion of that construction to Mexico, then do final assembly here, on site. Hokie, don't be dumb to the point I'm making…

You're sounding like the typical elite that cares only about yourself and not others. If you don't think massive amount of jobs have been outsourced, you're kidding yourself. Way too many people are completely out of the workforce whose jobs have been outsourced. Sorry man, you are coming across as self-centered. How do I know this? Because I was one of those people.
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SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


One is the president calling people garbage. The other is a comedian making a joke referencing PRs landfill issue.

The joke was bad because most people are completely unaware of PRs garbage problem.
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SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

SmaptyWolf said:

packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.



I'm confused, I thought calling people garbage was funny now? Weren't you just bawling about people being too sensitive like 5 minutes ago?

Lol, Jesus you guys are the most hypersensitive snowflakes on Planet Earth. You dish it out with a firehose, but you can't take it for a second. Here's a tissue.


So you think the leader of the free world calling half the country's citizens garbage is the same as an insult comic making a joke about the actual garbage issue in Puerto Rico.


Of course you also think calling half the country's citizen's fascists and Nazis is ok too.
Lol, Puerto Rico's "actual garbage issue"? That's what he was highlighting at Trump's "closing argument" mega-rally where they trashed every other minority group for good measure? You really think anyone's buying that? GTFO.


LOL, here is the actual quote:

"There's a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. It's called Puerto Rico,"

Are you even aware of how bad the issue is in Puerto Rico? Dems, liberal media and MSM's are blowing it up only for political reasons.

Let me guess, you are probably ok with George Lopez joking about Mexicans being thieves.

A comedian making a bad joke is not the same as the leader of the free world making that statement, not as a joke.
You have heard the words coming out of Trump's mouth this entire campaign, right?

Anyway, the White House clarified that he was referring to Trump supporters' hateful rhetoric as garbage. Wow, spinning is so fun... I can see why you guys do it nonstop.


There is nothing to clarify. I heard it with my own ears.

PR has a garbage problem. It's been in the news. You can find articles about it.

Joe calls 80 million people garbage. Walz calls 80 million people "nazis". Harris calls 80 million people "facist". These people are full of hate. They think using these labels will convince a Trump supporter to vote differently.

Frankly. I don't want to vote for Trump. However, the rhetoric from the left makes me want to beat their ass into a pulp. So, I'll use my vote to do that.
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packofwolves said:

Bas2020 said:

Biden calling 90 million Americans "garbage" dwarfs this stupid comedian controversy over Puerto Rico .

Kamala's campaign was already essentially toast , but that was the final nail in the coffin.





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Gulfstream4 said:


The party of hate.
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