Wufpack17 said:
Genuinely can't wrap my head around the left being okay with calling people "Nazi's", but they lose their damn minds when a comedian cracks a joke about how poorly PR has been handled by dem leaders...
Those screaming "Nazi's" have zero room to complain. They forfeited moral superiority when they labeled 50% of Americans as Nazi's.
Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
Wufpack17 said:
What's offensive about highlighting the fact that democrat leadership in PR has trashed the territory?
Ah, yes. here we go defending racism (for the record, comedians making jokes, is not racism) when it supports your position. Can't say I am surprised by this.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
Again, context matters. The context being that democrats have been running PR into the ground.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:
What's offensive about highlighting the fact that democrat leadership in PR has trashed the territory?
What's offensive to Puerto Ricans about calling their home a trash dump?
Actually, you're right. That's comedy gold!! Pure genius.
This is wrong on so many levels. Comedy is comedy. Comedians need to be given the grace to make a mistake, even when it makes people uncomfortable or angry. It's art, its not a policy statement.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
Again. Comedy.hokiewolf said:
Tony Hinchcliffe isn't gay
I think there is a subset of people who are incapable of separating comedy from reality.hokiewolf said:This is wrong on so many levels. Comedy is comedy. Comedians need to be given the grace to make a mistake, even when it makes people uncomfortable or angry. It's art, its not a policy statement.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
There have been many examples of o silt comics performing at these type of events - ie triumph the insult comic dog and Don Rickels. The fact that this seems to bother you so much for some reason is perplexing
Wufpack17 said:
Ah, yes. here we go defending racism (for the record, comedians making jokes, is not racism) when it supports your position. Can't say I am surprised by this.
Here is the full version of Tony Hinchilffe's, Trump Rally, appearance. pic.twitter.com/QMP6Npsds7
— The Raymond G Stanley Jr (@raymondgstanley) October 27, 2024
Black people get away with white face. It doesn't offend me at all.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:
Ah, yes. here we go defending racism (for the record, comedians making jokes, is not racism) when it supports your position. Can't say I am surprised by this.
Why can't white people get away with blackface?
It's just a joke!
hokiewolf said:This is wrong on so many levels. Comedy is comedy. Comedians need to be given the grace to make a mistake, even when it makes people uncomfortable or angry. It's art, its not a policy statement.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
There have been many examples of o silt comics performing at these type of events - ie triumph the insult comic dog and Don Rickels. The fact that this seems to bother you so much for some reason is perplexing
Says who?Civilized said:hokiewolf said:This is wrong on so many levels. Comedy is comedy. Comedians need to be given the grace to make a mistake, even when it makes people uncomfortable or angry. It's art, its not a policy statement.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
There have been many examples of o silt comics performing at these type of events - ie triumph the insult comic dog and Don Rickels. The fact that this seems to bother you so much for some reason is perplexing
Yes it's art but that cuts both ways. You have license to make art but you can't tell people how a joke about them is supposed to make them feel. That's not the way comedy works. Either the joke works or it doesn't.
I'm not arguing for censorship of comedians or Hinchcliffe's cancellation.
I'm saying it was a really bad strategic decision by the Trump campaign and clearly offended a helluva lot of Puerto Ricans.
The joke sucked, it didn't land, and it offended a bunch of people that are not inconsequential to Trump getting elected, a week before the election.
And broadly, strategically, I just don't see how if anyone vetted this material (and they damn sure should have) thought it was worth the risk.
hokiewolf said:This is wrong on so many levels. Comedy is comedy. Comedians need to be given the grace to make a mistake, even when it makes people uncomfortable or angry. It's art, its not a policy statement.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Harris literally had a comedian on stage 3 days ago, making jokes about how all Mexicans are thieves.Civilized said:Wufpack17 said:Plain and simple. He is a gay comedian with a massive podcast following who frequently offends everyone, MAGA people included.ncsualum05 said:
I have no idea what this comedian said but clearly it was a bad idea to have him at the event. My guess is he said some offensive jokes, and liberals took it and ran with it to try to drum up as much offense as possible. Now Trump campaign has to separate and defend. You'll see people post online how it changed their vote yada yada yada but at the end of the day this isn't moving the needle. Harris campaign is 6 ft under in the mud right now trying to sling anything they can at Trump because it is damn near over for them and they know it. No telling how trashed they leave the White House in January.
Nothing Burger.
The idea that you run a comedian up to the podium to "offend everyone" at a event that needs to seal the deal for your prospective election as President of the United States is a wild strategy.
You didn't ***** and moan about that. Why?
Post rally, no movement in polls. That's how terrible Harris has been. This comedians comments offends only the far left. The left is crying within an echo chamber.
George Lopez is a Mexican-American man who has made a career of joking about his own culture. Hinchcliffe ain't Puerto Rican or even Hispanic. He's a white dude from the Midwest.
You may somehow be unaware of this phenomenon in comedy but when people make fun of themselves or their own culture it hits way differently than when they make fun of other people.
A lot of time in comedy, there may be a joke out there somewhere but it's not your joke to make. And in Hinchcliffe's case it was compounded by just being a bad joke. There is not connection between trash and Puerto Rico. It just seemed random and mean, not funny or pertinent to the topic at hand.
The proof is in the pudding. Obviously, Trump's campaign disagrees with you since they immediately tried to distance themselves and obviously Mexican-Americans took that joke way differently than Puerto Ricans took HInchcliffe's joke last night.
There have been many examples of o silt comics performing at these type of events - ie triumph the insult comic dog and Don Rickels. The fact that this seems to bother you so much for some reason is perplexing
Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:
After four years of Biden, democrats are now going to call Trump unfit?! LOLOLOL….where the heck were you the last four years? What changed?
You're proving the point.
Biden withdrew from the 2024 ticket because the party believed he wasn't fit to lead for another 4 years.
Trump is still on the ticket last time I checked, despite clearly being unfit to lead.
Gulfstream4 said:Civilized said:Gulfstream4 said:
After four years of Biden, democrats are now going to call Trump unfit?! LOLOLOL….where the heck were you the last four years? What changed?
You're proving the point.
Biden withdrew from the 2024 ticket because the party believed he wasn't fit to lead for another 4 years.
Trump is still on the ticket last time I checked, despite clearly being unfit to lead.
Anyone who is being honest knew Mr. Biden was unfit for President 4-5 years ago.
Comedian last night: “Puerto Rico is a floating pile of garbage.”
— Frank McCormick (@CBHeresy) October 28, 2024
The Media this morning: *incomprehensible shrieking*
The Media the last 6 years: pic.twitter.com/cxU2Pf1vS6
Like the comedian that spoke at one of Kamala's ralley's?TheStorm said:Why even have some potential wild card "performing" at one of your campaign appearances to begin with? I mean, it's just stupid anyway...caryking said:
I Think the campaign has said, this joke was not in good taste, and thought it was out of place.
Right. They have a serious garbage issue that started under their failed leadership.packgrad said:Comedian last night: “Puerto Rico is a floating pile of garbage.”
— Frank McCormick (@CBHeresy) October 28, 2024
The Media this morning: *incomprehensible shrieking*
The Media the last 6 years: pic.twitter.com/cxU2Pf1vS6
New TPC analysis shows that a 20% global tariff and a 60% tariff on Chinese goods, one of many import tax ideas floated by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, would lower average after-tax incomes by an average of 2.9 percent in 2025. https://t.co/z7hZaAm8j9 pic.twitter.com/8fkjPdUTOi
— Tax Policy Center (@TaxPolicyCenter) October 28, 2024
You do know, more and more manufacturing is being moved to other country's…. What's happening is, in most goods, the raw components are still being manufactured in China and they are being assembled outside of China, thus getting the origin in other places. The tariffs become far less and/or at 0%.hokiewolf said:
Here's real trash, tariffs are not a conservative idea and do not do anything but raise pricesNew TPC analysis shows that a 20% global tariff and a 60% tariff on Chinese goods, one of many import tax ideas floated by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, would lower average after-tax incomes by an average of 2.9 percent in 2025. https://t.co/z7hZaAm8j9 pic.twitter.com/8fkjPdUTOi
— Tax Policy Center (@TaxPolicyCenter) October 28, 2024
GPS—a total of 98,678 mobile devices were at or in the immediate vicinity of Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally.
— Tony Seruga (@TonySeruga) October 28, 2024
Just under 20,000 were in the venue itself and the balance were outside watching.
47% had never attended a Trump rally. pic.twitter.com/obtFjyXMYz
LOVING THE MAGARENA!!!😎🇺🇸🥳🥳🥳 pic.twitter.com/zjBMbY0Xws
— il Donaldo Trumpo (@PapiTrumpo) October 25, 2024
When that MAGA starts to kick in… 🇺🇸
— Ole Murica (@OleMurica) October 23, 2024
Song: Trump Vance Baby
Artist: @ForgiatoBlow47 pic.twitter.com/LKJ2ZzzVkV
🎶🎶Trump around Trump around🎶🎶Catchy little tune https://t.co/KSHJCC5djh
— Nanaof9 (@TerriMccarter4) October 26, 2024
