Maybe she had her airpods still in and she was listening to any rap song on earth....hearing that word all game long...
The hypocrisy and double standard is unbelievable. Black Americans can use the N-word 4 times in every sentence in their everyday conversation, and it can be in their favorite songs 20 times. But if a white person says it, then the world has to stop, that person's life and career destroyed, and the police called out as if a crime has been committed.High Travoltage said:
Maybe she had her airpods still in and she was listening to any rap song on earth....hearing that word all game long...
As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
White people are regularly called all sorts of pejorative names ("cracker", etc), with much less outrage.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
So you are still saying to believe her because that is what she thinks happened??? Wow... talk about doubling down.....dogplasma said:
I don't really disagree with any of that. It's hardly a hot and controversial take to say she probably misheard something. I don't know the details of everything that happened so I can't really say if or when someone should have challenged her. She probably won't issue any follow up because she still thinks she heard what she heard.
The problem with that is that the University , it's former President and many of the faculty at the time of the Duke Lacrosse case were the ones leading the charge with pitch forks and torches in hand.caryking said:
Of all the universities, in this country, Duke surely should know what its like to be drug through the mud... It hasn't been too many years ago that Duke student athletes were accused of an awful crime. The mob put that university thru hell, only to find out that it was a hoax!
Duke "Should" be more careful with their responses, all things considering. Unfortunately, they will not!
All the more reason, sane people, would look at this situation as a need to protect the image of the University. Don't be like the past!hokiewolf said:The problem with that is that the University , it's former President and many of the faculty at the time of the Duke Lacrosse case were the ones leading the charge with pitch forks and torches in hand.caryking said:
Of all the universities, in this country, Duke surely should know what its like to be drug through the mud... It hasn't been too many years ago that Duke student athletes were accused of an awful crime. The mob put that university thru hell, only to find out that it was a hoax!
Duke "Should" be more careful with their responses, all things considering. Unfortunately, they will not!
The fact that nothing has been done by Duke is the least surprising aspect of this issue
Bell Tower Grey said:
You'll never hear it from her. Tanner, maybe. But definitely not from staley.
I don't think you understand the culture at Duke, Vincent Price is not someone I would consider less spineless than Richard Brodheadcaryking said:All the more reason, sane people, would look at this situation as a need to protect the image of the University. Don't be like the past!hokiewolf said:The problem with that is that the University , it's former President and many of the faculty at the time of the Duke Lacrosse case were the ones leading the charge with pitch forks and torches in hand.caryking said:
Of all the universities, in this country, Duke surely should know what its like to be drug through the mud... It hasn't been too many years ago that Duke student athletes were accused of an awful crime. The mob put that university thru hell, only to find out that it was a hoax!
Duke "Should" be more careful with their responses, all things considering. Unfortunately, they will not!
The fact that nothing has been done by Duke is the least surprising aspect of this issue
LOL, what are you two trying to justify here. Look, if you want to use the word because you don't think it should be offensive, just use the word.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
I don't think universities want to touch this topic. Its kinda like coaches almost never uttering a word when questions about another coach cheating coming up -- best just to stay out of the fray.Steve Videtich said:Bell Tower Grey said:
You'll never hear it from her. Tanner, maybe. But definitely not from staley.
Other universities could stand up for BYU, and pull out of future series with South Carolina. But it won't happen.
Packchem91 said:I don't think universities want to touch this topic. Its kinda like coaches almost never uttering a word when questions about another coach cheating coming up -- best just to stay out of the fray.Steve Videtich said:Bell Tower Grey said:
You'll never hear it from her. Tanner, maybe. But definitely not from staley.
Other universities could stand up for BYU, and pull out of future series with South Carolina. But it won't happen.
I agree. And one that a coach/school can get by with more than the other way, no doubt about it. Whatever my beliefs about elements of systemic racism remaining, i also fully acknowledge there is a double standard in way things are reported/maligned in situations like thisSteve Videtich said:Packchem91 said:I don't think universities want to touch this topic. Its kinda like coaches almost never uttering a word when questions about another coach cheating coming up -- best just to stay out of the fray.Steve Videtich said:Bell Tower Grey said:
You'll never hear it from her. Tanner, maybe. But definitely not from staley.
Other universities could stand up for BYU, and pull out of future series with South Carolina. But it won't happen.
No I get it. Just a classless move by little usc.
Yes, it is, Steve. Tanner and the school president need to issue an apology even if staley doesn't. It's the least they could do. Maybe some folks are going to see her in a different light now....I've seen it for years.Steve Videtich said:Packchem91 said:I don't think universities want to touch this topic. Its kinda like coaches almost never uttering a word when questions about another coach cheating coming up -- best just to stay out of the fray.Steve Videtich said:Bell Tower Grey said:
You'll never hear it from her. Tanner, maybe. But definitely not from staley.
Other universities could stand up for BYU, and pull out of future series with South Carolina. But it won't happen.
No I get it. Just a classless move by little usc.
Chem, answer the question…Packchem91 said:LOL, what are you two trying to justify here. Look, if you want to use the word because you don't think it should be offensive, just use the word.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
Not to mention the use of the word in music. Add that to the privilege that black people claim that only white people have.caryking said:Chem, answer the question…Packchem91 said:LOL, what are you two trying to justify here. Look, if you want to use the word because you don't think it should be offensive, just use the word.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
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caryking said:
Chem, answer the question…
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
Why do you care? I don't. If I got called one, I'd probably laugh, but then I'm not easily offended and the word has not context to me that is applicable.caryking said:Chem, answer the question…Packchem91 said:LOL, what are you two trying to justify here. Look, if you want to use the word because you don't think it should be offensive, just use the word.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
Chem, that is an insult of the highest measure! You are a sad individual!!Packchem91 said:Why do you care? I don't. If I got called one, I'd probably laugh.caryking said:Chem, answer the question…Packchem91 said:LOL, what are you two trying to justify here. Look, if you want to use the word because you don't think it should be offensive, just use the word.caryking said:GP, from a historical perspective, I understand. Words have their meanings changed all the time. Unfortunately, I guess, the word has transferred itself into world rallying cry for what we view as wokeism...GuerrillaPack said:As you might know, the origin of the "N-word" is from the spanish word "negro", which only means the color black.caryking said:
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
To me, the "N" word doesn't describe the color of a person; rather, a way of life. The use of it in so many rap songs makes me think I'm more correct than not…
I guess it evolved to the pronunciation of the "N-word" with Anglos mispronouncing the spanish word "negro".
So there's nothing nefarious about the "N-word" at all.
That said, being as to the meaning of the word, which I'm not sure I truly know, my question still stands...
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
I'm not sure what you and GP are trying to argue...it seems like you are upset you can't still use the word?
Why would a Black Person call a White Person that at all?Civilized said:caryking said:
Chem, answer the question…
What if a black person calls a white person the "N" word? Is that acceptable?
Acceptable? The word is obviously used as a barb so not really acceptable but mainly it's just weird straw man that happens so infrequently as to be irrelevant to the conversation. Why would a black person call a white person that as a slight to begin with?
My statement was more directed at the post that there's nothing really wrong with the n-word. It came off as almost wistful that the word is no longer appropriate for general use. Maybe that wasn't the intent, apologies if it wasn't, but it seemed to be taking the thread on a weird and (for me) uncomfortable tangent.caryking said:
For those of you that find the last couple of pages, interesting at best, please enlighten me on why you feel that way...
Thanks
Hokie and Dog, I'm speaking to you two...
Dog, that post was so far back that no one knew what to make of your comments. Both you and hokie have commented in this thread well after the poster made the comment you're bothered by. Holy delayed reaction, Batman!dogplasma said:My statement was more directed at the post that there's nothing really wrong with the n-word. It came off as almost wistful that the word is no longer appropriate for general use. Maybe that wasn't the intent, apologies if it wasn't, but it seemed to be taking the thread on a weird and (for me) uncomfortable tangent.caryking said:
For those of you that find the last couple of pages, interesting at best, please enlighten me on why you feel that way...
Thanks
Hokie and Dog, I'm speaking to you two...
Your question, Cary, on black vs white use of the word is still a tangent, but I'm not backing slowly out of the room reading that one!
Mormad said:
Was it the Clayton bigsby skit where the white dudes in the car were called the N word and they were like, "did they just call us Ns?" And then were really happy and highfived? I've gotta find that. Hilarious.