https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/19/us/texas-migrants-bus-washington-dc-new-york/index.html
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The White House is moving toward canceling up to $10,000 in student debt for borrowers who are under a roughly middle-tier income bracket.
The plan would forgive this amount in loans for students who earn less than $125,000 a year, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN. The decision to offer the relief could be announced as early as Wednesday, potentially subject to last-minute adjustments.
The Biden administration will probably make an announcement this week about whether the government will extend the moratorium on student-debt repayments, currently suspended until August 31. Some economists, such as former Treasury secretary Larry Summers have warned against prolonging the pause, which he argued could exacerbate inflation.
This administration continues the bad habit of ignoring the Constitution and existing laws.Quote:
In 2021, the Department of Education determined that the executive branch "does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof."
This has already been executed flawlessly. It doesn't matter who believes it or not you can't do anything about it. Just live your life as long as you can. Our freedoms are already more limited than most even realize and we have less and less each year but make the most of it before it gets worse. America is on a decline and it cannot be saved or undone at this point.Werewolf said:
Biden himself is simply a distraction.
The news can be summarized generally from this summation.
Darn it! :-)ncsualum05 said:This has already been executed flawlessly. It doesn't matter who believes it or not you can't do anything about it. Just live your life as long as you can. Our freedoms are already more limited than most even realize and we have less and less each year but make the most of it before it gets worse. America is on a decline and it cannot be saved or undone at this point.Werewolf said:
Biden himself is simply a distraction.
The news can be summarized generally from this summation.
Sources said President Biden’s intended student loan measure will include at least $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually. https://t.co/5pjrfhJqDA
— The Hill (@thehill) August 23, 2022
Address why education is so expensive in the first place (hint - the fed has a LARGE part of it) before any of this nonsense.metcalfmafia said:Sources said President Biden’s intended student loan measure will include at least $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually. https://t.co/5pjrfhJqDA
— The Hill (@thehill) August 23, 2022
The Biden administration needs to adhere to the sworn oath of office to uphold the laws within constitutional limits as well. This is another obvious attempt to pander for votes by violating that oath while expecting lawsuits to block this action. This administration thinks it is part of their national duty to waste taxpayer's money.Quote:
In 2021, the Department of Education determined that the executive branch "does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof."
Itll get killed in court just like their OSHA renter relief idiocy.PackFansXL said:The Biden administration needs to adhere to the sworn oath of office to uphold the laws within constitutional limits as well. This is another obvious attempt to pander for votes by violating that oath while expecting lawsuits to block this action. This administration thinks it is part of their national duty to waste taxpayer's money.Quote:
In 2021, the Department of Education determined that the executive branch "does not have the statutory authority to cancel, compromise, discharge, or forgive, on a blanket or mass basis, principal balances of student loans, and/or to materially modify the repayment amounts or terms thereof."
metcalfmafia said:Sources said President Biden’s intended student loan measure will include at least $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually. https://t.co/5pjrfhJqDA
— The Hill (@thehill) August 23, 2022
why are we rewarding those who made bad choices with their education selections? Would it not be a better use of my money to go and pay for the guy who learned a trade and became a plumber and pay off his Ford F-150?FlossyDFlynt said:Address why education is so expensive in the first place (hint - the fed has a LARGE part of it) before any of this nonsense.metcalfmafia said:Sources said President Biden’s intended student loan measure will include at least $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually. https://t.co/5pjrfhJqDA
— The Hill (@thehill) August 23, 2022
Look I don't have a dog in this fight but forgiving 10k in student debt for folks making less than 125k doesn't scream rich, white, and liberal to me. Either way, boomers are gonna be mad. Either mad that millennials and zoomers aren't buying cars and houses because they are saddled with student debt and their 45k entry level gig can barely pay the ever increasing rent. Or mad that millenials and zoomers are getting a free ride that they didn't have a chance to get because they "made better choices."hokiewolf said:
This is pandering to a base of rich, white, liberal voters who already vote democratic.
hokiewolf said:why are we rewarding those who made bad choices with their education selections? Would it not be a better use of my money to go and pay for the guy who learned a trade and became a plumber and pay off his Ford F-150?FlossyDFlynt said:Address why education is so expensive in the first place (hint - the fed has a LARGE part of it) before any of this nonsense.metcalfmafia said:Sources said President Biden’s intended student loan measure will include at least $10,000 in loan forgiveness for borrowers who make less than $125,000 annually. https://t.co/5pjrfhJqDA
— The Hill (@thehill) August 23, 2022
This is pandering to a base of rich, white, liberal voters who already vote democratic.
Racking up that kind of debt to pursue a degree in a career that generates less than 125k is moronic. Forgiving 10k for folks making less than 125k is maddening because it short-circuits Darwin's natural mechanism to clean the stupid genes out of the pool.mrcpack17 said:Look I don't have a dog in this fight but forgiving 10k in student debt for folks making less than 125k doesn't scream rich, white, and liberal to me. Either way, boomers are gonna be mad. Either mad that millennials and zoomers aren't buying cars and houses because they are saddled with student debt and their 45k entry level gig can barely pay the ever increasing rent. Or mad that millenials and zoomers are getting a free ride that they didn't have a chance to get because they "made better choices."hokiewolf said:
This is pandering to a base of rich, white, liberal voters who already vote democratic.
why wouldn't we eliminate accrued interest for small business equipment loans?wolfman18 said:
Wonder what the cost of eliminating accrued interest would be? I'd be more inclined to that...
In keeping with my campaign promise, my Administration is announcing a plan to give working and middle class families breathing room as they prepare to resume federal student loan payments in January 2023.
— President Biden (@POTUS) August 24, 2022
I'll have more details this afternoon. pic.twitter.com/kuZNqoMe4I
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A Penn-Wharton Budget Model released Tuesday found that "a one-time maximum debt forgiveness of $10,000 per borrower will cost around $300 billion for borrowers with incomes less than $125,000." That provision alone translates to more than $2,000 per taxpayer.
Sad to see what’s being done to bribe the voters. Biden's student loan forgiveness plan may win Democrats some votes, but it fuels inflation, foots taxpayers with other people’s financial obligations, is unfair to those who paid their own way & creates irresponsible expectations.
— Senator Mitt Romney (@SenatorRomney) August 24, 2022
NANCY PELOSI in April: Biden does not have the power to bail out student loan debt.pic.twitter.com/0iz8uQeKXG
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) August 24, 2022
How's he doing it?
— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) August 24, 2022
Biden is employing a post-9/11 law that allows for debt cancelation "in connection with a war or other military operation or national emergency."
Which emergency? "[T]he present COVID-19 pandemic," per a Dept of Ed memo issued yesterday.
h/t @kathrynw5.
Wow....just wow....FlossyDFlynt said:How's he doing it?
— Steven Portnoy (@stevenportnoy) August 24, 2022
Biden is employing a post-9/11 law that allows for debt cancelation "in connection with a war or other military operation or national emergency."
Which emergency? "[T]he present COVID-19 pandemic," per a Dept of Ed memo issued yesterday.
h/t @kathrynw5.
Boy this administration must like getting slapped by the Supreme Court
Without fail pic.twitter.com/JwXt28mFbq
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) August 24, 2022
The "pandering money grab" is oriented towards an overall group that may or may not vote on a regular basis.hokiewolf said:
This is going to backfire really well. There are a hell of a lot more people who either paid their debt in full or didn't go to college than people that this pandering money grab is targeted at.
And how will the money be paid out? Will they get actual "checks" that they cash and then are responsible for settling their debts?TheStorm said:The "pandering money grab" is oriented towards an overall group that may or may not vote on a regular basis.hokiewolf said:
This is going to backfire really well. There are a hell of a lot more people who either paid their debt in full or didn't go to college than people that this pandering money grab is targeted at.
They know exactly what they are doing.
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This thread by Jason Furman, who served as the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Obama, is worth a read:
Pouring roughly half trillion dollars of gasoline on the inflationary fire that is already burning is reckless. Doing it while going well beyond one campaign promise ($10K of student loan relief) and breaking another (all proposals paid for) is even worse.
— Jason Furman (@jasonfurman) August 24, 2022
I worked thru college. But my memory fails me these days, but i think the NC State tuition back in 1987-91 when i was a student was like $400 / semester??metcalfmafia said:
Who all here had to take out student loans to be able to afford college?
I'll raise my hand first.