Ground_Chuck said:
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Oh hell! The fix is in for the GA Senate race. Do you think Trump pumping up the rigged elections deterred some of his base to show up? I really don't care that much but I wonder what people think what influenced this important race.
I think the nail in the coffin was the republican senate not carrying the 2000 dollar stimulus package, honesty.
McConnell knew what he was doing.
Perdue still has a chance. Decent one at that. If dems win both seats then Trump will be blamed for it all and he will be purged from the GOP forever. McConnell knew this and is playing the long game for 2022-24.
That's actually the type of 4D chess that people accused Trump of playing early in his term, until they realized he couldn't sit still or hold a thought in his head for more than a few seconds, until the next squirrel ran into his view.
I agree that this could very well be intentional on McConnell's part and it would be smart. Trumpism is a race to the bottom for Republicans (and the country, by extension).
Repudiating Trumpism and bringing highly electable candidate(s) to the table in 2024 is a winning strategy for the right. I think there's a 90% chance Haley beats Kamala. Pence would probably be better than 50/50 odds, although I don't think he shares Haley's appeal with conservative and moderate women. I think Haley would prove to be massively popular with Trump-to-Biden voters that went Biden only because Trump is so distasteful.
Civ, you are speaking mostly to the Trump style. Unfortunately, for your points and MAGA people are far more interested in the substance. MAGA people are fed up with the Oligarchies we live with everyday.
- Corporate Media Oligarchy
- Big Business Oligarchy
- Big Tech Oligarchy
- Establishment Politicians (Both Parties) <- Could be the biggest issue in our country
Trump, given the style issues you and others don't like, are overlooked by MAGA people because he calls the Oligarchy out everyday. That is the appeal that people on the board are just not seeing. You know, its going to be hard for another Republican to be elected, for President, in a long time.
I think what is missed is Trump has fundamentally changed the Republican Party. The Republican Party is no longer the Party of the Elites, that now goes to the Democrats, excluding the established Republicans. I can go on about this; however, it probably will go on deaf ears.
No need to call out Trump for this or that. That will only show that you are just not seeing it... This is not calling on you to agree with it and/or support it, just realize the country has a bunch of people support Trumps actions...
This is correct pineknolls. The Trump movement is really a populist movement. It's pro worker and anti DC for the most part. DC establishment and government is largely detested by voters and it crosses party lines. Yes most of the Trump voters vote GOP down the line but it's not like they like a lot of those candidates. It's more of a lesser of 2 evils thing. When Trump is off the ticket you see what happens. The old GOP needs to die and fast b/c there's no future in it. The GOP needs to primary all the old establishment *****s and become a full populist pro worker America first party. It has to happen that way.. you can't form a 3rd party or an independent coalition.
How is Trump/Trumpism a populist movement? Saying things that the base like isn't populism, its pandering.
What pro worker legislation did the push? What policies are populist?
I'll tell you...
1. The globalist agenda included us paying more and propping up world organizations that are doing nothing for us and sucking up to our enemies. Trump was the first to call it out and start to change that with forcing other countries to pay their share.
2. We were getting our lunch eaten in trade deals. Trump was the first in decades to call this out and pushed to get better trade deals for the US. The old trade deals had been responsible for entire sectors of our workers losing jobs. We weren't making things anymore.... Trump was trying to reverse that.
3. This is also part of trade but overall the China threat. Trump was the only one to call out the China threat. China is trying to dominate the world and us. We are more than happy to oblige except for Trump came along and started to reverse that trend. MANY in our government are complicit with China and hate Trump as a result.
4. Illegal immigration has been out of control for decades and no one has wanted to address it. In fact it's been encouraged. Trump calls it out when no one else did. Trump commits to building a wall and fortifying our border and enforcing immigration laws that no one was paying attention to anymore. This has an impact on workers in our country as well as national security.
5. Foreign proxy wars. Trump didn't start a new one and worked to try to end what was going on. Instead of regime changing and fighting Trump has worked out historic peace deals in the middle east. He's drawn down troops. The establishment war mongers can't stand his foreign policy. He's crippling and isolating Iran.. .the real enemy in the region. And he curbed NK's aggression through unconventional and sometimes odd diplomacy. He also took the terrorist group ISIS which had been a problem for years and gained so much power and took them completely out. When is the last time we had a foreign terror attack in the US?
6. Energy independence. We got it... amazing. Gas has been stable for years now. We no longer rely on anyone for oil.
7. Right to try policy and favored nations clause to lower drug prescription prices.
NONE of these points would've been addressed by the Republican party before or without Trump's MAGA movement. The GOP was complicit in all these issues. I don't know how you can't see how different it is. But it doesn't matter now I guess b/c all of it will be reversed.