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Just wanted to leave this here for our socialist friends to ponder over and determine just how to spin this.

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BBW, no offense, but that needs to be authenticated. %A0That is so damning to Nancy and the Democratic Party that it's hard to believe that it's real.

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It's hard to believe anyone BELIEVES it's real. %A0

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Typical spin by a liberal progressive. %A0What I said was that it needs to be authenticated. %A0You make it personal... %A0you just cant help yourself, can you?

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How was what I said personal? Stop being such a baby. It was a general comment

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If you're a "liberal progressive" now then 75% of the US is liberal.

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Isle, you have shown yourself to be a flame thrower. %A0Do me a favor and just stay out...

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Oh yeah, Ise is definitely a master troller. %A0LOL. %A0 Of all the folks here, both the poster accused of being one, and by whom....laughable on both counts. %A0

You and BBW are single-handedly (or double handedly, I guess) going to make James do away with the Water Cooler. %A0 There was never any issues or folks crying for bans and to the mods before you two showed up recently.

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Actually, I did propose making the Water Cooler part of the pay. %A0It will definitely do some good to get people like you to pony up or out of here.

BTW, I've been here since the first day of this site. %A0Oh and yes, I've been paying from the beginning. %A0The only reason I have complained is because several people, with conservative views, have been censored.

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It's not the conservative views that got you censored. %A0And you know it.

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And, I didn't say it was... %A0hopefully, I was the one that elicited Steve post about decorum. %A0Yes, I made a complaint about the way people were being censored. %A0I wasn't the only one.

Truth of the matter, it's there business; however, I asked them to consider how libel they could be for the selective censoring the mods are doing. %A0I saw what appeared to be an out of control mod.

You know we have a DM feature here? %A0People use it to express concerns among themselves and not exclusively in the forums.

I'll never forget what Tom Gugliotta said to a young kid.. %A0the kid was wearing a UNC hat and was asking for his autograph. %A0A person spoke up and asked Tom: are you going to sign an autograph for that kid while wearing that hat? %A0Tom said: it's a childhood disease. %A0He'll grow out of it one day.

That response Tom gave is a comparative response by wise people when they get older. %A0These progressives will grow out of it. %A0It's fun being a progressive when you are young, when you get older, you realize your misguided beliefs...

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It is "their" not there.

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Get a job! %A0Then pony up the $10 a month to be member!

BTW, I know the difference in the uses of their and there. %A0It was probably a spell correct, fast typing, or something... %A0more importantly, who the hell are you to correct me? %A0You must be missing something in your live.

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Did you mean "life"?

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Just wanted to leave this here for our socialist friends to ponder over and determine just how to spin this.

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BBW, no offense, but that needs to be authenticated. That is so damning to Nancy and the Democratic Party that it's hard to believe that it's real.

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It's hard to believe anyone BELIEVES it's real.

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Typical spin by a liberal progressive. What I said was that it needs to be authenticated. You make it personal... you just cant help yourself, can you?

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How was what I said personal? Stop being such a baby. It was a general comment

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If you're a "liberal progressive" now then 75% of the US is liberal.

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Isle, you have shown yourself to be a flame thrower. Do me a favor and just stay out...

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Oh yeah, Ise is definitely a master troller. LOL. Of all the folks here, both the poster accused of being one, and by whom....laughable on both counts.

You and BBW are single-handedly (or double handedly, I guess) going to make James do away with the Water Cooler. There was never any issues or folks crying for bans and to the mods before you two showed up recently.

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Actually, I did propose making the Water Cooler part of the pay. It will definitely do some good to get people like you to pony up or out of here.

BTW, I've been here since the first day of this site. Oh and yes, I've been paying from the beginning. The only reason I have complained is because several people, with conservative views, have been censored.

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It's not the conservative views that got you censored. And you know it.

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And, I didn't say it was... hopefully, I was the one that elicited Steve post about decorum. Yes, I made a complaint about the way people were being censored. I wasn't the only one.

Truth of the matter, it's there business; however, I asked them to consider how libel they could be for the selective censoring the mods are doing. I saw what appeared to be an out of control mod.

You know we have a DM feature here? People use it to express concerns among themselves and not exclusively in the forums.

I'll never forget what Tom Gugliotta said to a young kid.. the kid was wearing a UNC hat and was asking for his autograph. A person spoke up and asked Tom: are you going to sign an autograph for that kid while wearing that hat? Tom said: it's a childhood disease. He'll grow out of it one day.

That response Tom gave is a comparative response by wise people when they get older. These progressives will grow out of it. It's fun being a progressive when you are young, when you get older, you realize your misguided beliefs...

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It is "their" not there.

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Get a job! Then pony up the $10 a month to be member!

BTW, I know the difference in the uses of their and there. It was probably a spell correct, fast typing, or something... more importantly, who the hell are you to correct me? You must be missing something in your live.

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Did you mean "life"? I'm good thanks for asking .
I corrected YOU twice and I stand my ground.

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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

You know what, Im just gonna pass....

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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

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I support this cause 100%.

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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

You know what, Im just gonna pass....

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Willie didn't

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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

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Any of you guys care to break out the urban dictionary on pearl necklaces?

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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

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Any of you guys care to break out the urban dictionary on pearl necklaces?

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Just wanted to leave this here for our socialist friends to ponder over and determine just how to spin this.

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BBW, no offense, but that needs to be authenticated. That is so damning to Nancy and the Democratic Party that it's hard to believe that it's real.

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It's hard to believe anyone BELIEVES it's real.

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Typical spin by a liberal progressive. What I said was that it needs to be authenticated. You make it personal... you just cant help yourself, can you?

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How was what I said personal? Stop being such a baby. It was a general comment

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If you're a "liberal progressive" now then 75% of the US is liberal.

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Isle, you have shown yourself to be a flame thrower. Do me a favor and just stay out...

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Oh yeah, Ise is definitely a master troller. LOL. Of all the folks here, both the poster accused of being one, and by whom....laughable on both counts.

You and BBW are single-handedly (or double handedly, I guess) going to make James do away with the Water Cooler. There was never any issues or folks crying for bans and to the mods before you two showed up recently.

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Actually, I did propose making the Water Cooler part of the pay. It will definitely do some good to get people like you to pony up or out of here.

BTW, I've been here since the first day of this site. Oh and yes, I've been paying from the beginning. The only reason I have complained is because several people, with conservative views, have been censored.

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It's not the conservative views that got you censored. And you know it.

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And, I didn't say it was... hopefully, I was the one that elicited Steve post about decorum. Yes, I made a complaint about the way people were being censored. I wasn't the only one.

Truth of the matter, it's there business; however, I asked them to consider how libel they could be for the selective censoring the mods are doing. I saw what appeared to be an out of control mod.

You know we have a DM feature here? People use it to express concerns among themselves and not exclusively in the forums.

I'll never forget what Tom Gugliotta said to a young kid.. the kid was wearing a UNC hat and was asking for his autograph. A person spoke up and asked Tom: are you going to sign an autograph for that kid while wearing that hat? Tom said: it's a childhood disease. He'll grow out of it one day.

That response Tom gave is a comparative response by wise people when they get older. These progressives will grow out of it. It's fun being a progressive when you are young, when you get older, you realize your misguided beliefs...

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It is "their" not there.

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Get a job! Then pony up the $10 a month to be member!

BTW, I know the difference in the uses of their and there. It was probably a spell correct, fast typing, or something... more importantly, who the hell are you to correct me? You must be missing something in your live.

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Did you mean "life"? I'm good thanks for asking .
I corrected YOU twice and I stand my ground.

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Job, life, whatever... stand where you wish. Oh, and BTW... you must not have a job or a decent paying one, if you can't pony up $10.

We're done here... get lost!!!

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You wouldn't think it would be too much to ask for Trump to address the nation on TV and appeal for calm. He could even say something like "Despite historic levels of voter support, I lost this election to President Elect Joe Biden. The election results are affirmed by our electoral and judicial processes which we, as a nation, will continue to trust even if we disagree with the outcome. I appeal to all people to make this a calm and peaceful transition."

I say this as the company I work for has just issued a security alert and is closing offices located near various state capitals. They also give guidelines on what to do if you encounter a protest to avoid confrontation. As one coworker put it: "*** kind of dystopian universe are we currently living in?"

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This dystopian universe you're referring too was written about a long time ago. You can still find a copy on Amazon (unless it's being removed). It's called 1984.

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Yes, I think I've heard of that book! Is that the one where the government uses alternative facts known as doublespeak and untruths to control the minds and actions of its people in order to retain power? It sounds like a scary bit of fiction.

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Very good.

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You wouldn't think it would be too much to ask for Trump to address the nation on TV and appeal for calm. He could even say something like "Despite historic levels of voter support, I lost this election to President Elect Joe Biden. The election results are affirmed by our electoral and judicial processes which we, as a nation, will continue to trust even if we disagree with the outcome. I appeal to all people to make this a calm and peaceful transition."

I say this as the company I work for has just issued a security alert and is closing offices located near various state capitals. They also give guidelines on what to do if you encounter a protest to avoid confrontation. As one coworker put it: "*** kind of dystopian universe are we currently living in?"

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This dystopian universe you're referring too was written about a long time ago. You can still find a copy on Amazon (unless it's being removed). It's called 1984.

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Yes, I think I've heard of that book! Is that the one where the government uses alternative facts known as doublespeak and untruths to control the minds and actions of its people in order to retain power? It sounds like a scary bit of fiction.

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Very good.

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Politicians have lied since the beginning of time.....The only time anyone complains about it is when their guy isn't in office

The truth shall set you free...

https://populist.press/feds-admit-capitol-siege-was-planned-in-advance-by-trump-haters-not-trump-supporters/

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You wouldn't think it would be too much to ask for Trump to address the nation on TV and appeal for calm. He could even say something like "Despite historic levels of voter support, I lost this election to President Elect Joe Biden. The election results are affirmed by our electoral and judicial processes which we, as a nation, will continue to trust even if we disagree with the outcome. I appeal to all people to make this a calm and peaceful transition."

I say this as the company I work for has just issued a security alert and is closing offices located near various state capitals. They also give guidelines on what to do if you encounter a protest to avoid confrontation. As one coworker put it: "*** kind of dystopian universe are we currently living in?"

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This dystopian universe you're referring too was written about a long time ago. You can still find a copy on Amazon (unless it's being removed). It's called 1984.

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Yes, I think I've heard of that book! Is that the one where the government uses alternative facts known as doublespeak and untruths to control the minds and actions of its people in order to retain power? It sounds like a scary bit of fiction.

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Very good.

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Politicians have lied since the beginning of time.....The only time anyone complains about it is when their guy isn't in office

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I agree!

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The truth shall set you free...

https://populist.press/feds-admit-capitol-siege-was-planned-in-advance-by-trump-haters-not-trump-supporters/

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That article doesn't cite any evidence or actual quotes from officials.

The FBI has said they have no evidence of AntiFa being involved. It also would be a big departure from their M.O. which is to hide their face and not be identified.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=3901c5a66379

https://reason.com/2021/01/07/antifa-violence-trump-capitol-riot/

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The truth shall set you free...

https://populist.press/feds-admit-capitol-siege-was-planned-in-advance-by-trump-haters-not-trump-supporters/

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So where in your link can I learn more about these bad actors that are really anti-Trump that were in charge of the siege?

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really? Do some research!

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The truth shall set you free...

https://populist.press/feds-admit-capitol-siege-was-planned-in-advance-by-trump-haters-not-trump-supporters/

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So where in your link can I learn more about these bad actors that are really anti-Trump that were in charge of the siege?

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really? Do some research!

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We are trying to research but the link that you posted for consideration is weak.
You claim to be smarter than that..


Feds admit Capitol "siege" was planned in advance by Trump haters, not Trump supporters
[url=https://www.newstarget.com/2021-01-15-feds-admit-capitol-siege-planned-trump-haters.html][[/url]
Friday January 15, 2021 7:00 AM

"Federal law enforcement officials are blowing the lid on the Capitol false flag "siege," revealing that it was planned long in advance by bad actors who hate President Donald Trump rather than support him.
Many conservatives are already aware of the fact that those who "stormed" the chambers of Congress on Jan. 6 were not legitimate Trump supporters. Instead, they were the usual crisis actors who seem to come out of the woodwork every time there is a pressing need to vilify conservatives.
In this case, the goal was to frame all Trump supporters as "terrorists" by pretending to be them and storming the Capitol building. Most politicians and media outlets fell right in line with the fake news narrative by condemning Trump supporters before even determining who actually invaded the facility."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/politics/police-officers-capitol-riot-hodges-fanone/index.html

"As DC Metropolitan Police Officer Michael Fanone lay on the ground at the US Capitol building, stunned and injured, he knew a group of rioters were stripping him of his gear. They grabbed spare ammunition, ripped the police radio off his chest and even stole his badge. Then, Fanone, who had just been Tasered several times in the back of the neck, heard something chilling that made him go into survival mode. "Some guys started getting a hold of my gun and they were screaming out, 'Kill him with his own gun,'" said Fanone, who's been a police officer for almost two decades."

Scary *****

Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/14/fact-check-truth-capitol-riot-antifa-chuck-norris/6653343002/
Fact check: What's true about the Capitol riot, from antifa to BLM to Chuck Norris

waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

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Here are the links to judge for yourself (they are in the article).
Facebook and Twitter are full of all kinds of false claims, just depends if one reads what "they want to believe" or see the truth.
The image shows protesters waving "Trump 2020" flags alongside a CNN news banner reading: "ANTIFA HAS JUST TAKEN RESPONSIBLITLY (sic) FOR STORMING CAPITAL (sic) HILL". It circulated on Facebook ( here , here and here ).
The image contradicts Reuters reports that Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building on Jan 6 (here). CNN posted no such news on its website and its reporting called the demonstrators who stormed the capitol "pro-Trump rioters" (here).
There are clear signs the screenshot was doctored, for instance the news banner had incorrectly spelt "responsibility" and "Capitol Hill", and the fonts did not match CNN style.

waynecountywolf said:

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Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

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Here are the links to judge for yourself (they are in the article)
The image shows protesters waving "Trump 2020" flags alongside a CNN news banner reading: "ANTIFA HAS JUST TAKEN RESPONSIBLITLY (sic) FOR STORMING CAPITAL (sic) HILL". It circulated on Facebook ( here , here and here ).
The image contradicts Reuters reports that Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building on Jan 6 (here). CNN posted no such news on its website and its reporting called the demonstrators who stormed the capitol "pro-Trump rioters" (here).
There are clear signs the screenshot was doctored, for instance the news banner had incorrectly spelt "responsibility" and "Capitol Hill", and the fonts did not match CNN style.

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i'm not saying the picture is genuine, I'm saying that Reuters article most likely has a larger purpose than disputing the photo

Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

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Here are the links to judge for yourself (they are in the article)
The image shows protesters waving "Trump 2020" flags alongside a CNN news banner reading: "ANTIFA HAS JUST TAKEN RESPONSIBLITLY (sic) FOR STORMING CAPITAL (sic) HILL". It circulated on Facebook ( here , here and here ).
The image contradicts Reuters reports that Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building on Jan 6 (here). CNN posted no such news on its website and its reporting called the demonstrators who stormed the capitol "pro-Trump rioters" (here).
There are clear signs the screenshot was doctored, for instance the news banner had incorrectly spelt "responsibility" and "Capitol Hill", and the fonts did not match CNN style.

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i'm not saying the picture is genuine, I'm saying that Reuters article most likely has a larger purpose than disputing the photo

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Again, what purpose would that be? Reuters, if you look at the places that rate which way media leans, is pretty much right in the middle. About as fair as it gets.

Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

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Here are the links to judge for yourself (they are in the article)
The image shows protesters waving "Trump 2020" flags alongside a CNN news banner reading: "ANTIFA HAS JUST TAKEN RESPONSIBLITLY (sic) FOR STORMING CAPITAL (sic) HILL". It circulated on Facebook ( here , here and here ).
The image contradicts Reuters reports that Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building on Jan 6 (here). CNN posted no such news on its website and its reporting called the demonstrators who stormed the capitol "pro-Trump rioters" (here).
There are clear signs the screenshot was doctored, for instance the news banner had incorrectly spelt "responsibility" and "Capitol Hill", and the fonts did not match CNN style.

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i'm not saying the picture is genuine, I'm saying that Reuters article most likely has a larger purpose than disputing the photo

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This is where we are as a country and society. We dont trust family, our neighbors, police, politicians,President, co-workers, doctors, news etc.

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This one appears to be true.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/liberal-activist-charged-capitol-riot-459553

However, I believe this guy is the only one charged who has any left wing connections. Maybe we will see more as Horseshoe theory is a thing

IseWolf22 said:

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This one appears to be true.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/liberal-activist-charged-capitol-riot-459553

However, I believe this guy is the only one charged who has any left wing connections. Maybe we will see more as Horseshoe theory is a thing

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Agree, hopefully we can sort it all out peacefully and find truth. I have my doubts about many on either side finding or accepting truth.

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This one appears to be true.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/14/liberal-activist-charged-capitol-riot-459553

However, I believe this guy is the only one charged who has any left wing connections. Maybe we will see more as Horseshoe theory is a thing

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Was his cohort Jade Sacker, a CNN photojournalist contributor, not also charged?

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Wolfgar said:

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waynecountywolf said:

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Fake News
Fact check: News report saying Antifa took responsibility for storming Capitol is digitally altered

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that doesn't look slanted at all

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Here are the links to judge for yourself (they are in the article)
The image shows protesters waving "Trump 2020" flags alongside a CNN news banner reading: "ANTIFA HAS JUST TAKEN RESPONSIBLITLY (sic) FOR STORMING CAPITAL (sic) HILL". It circulated on Facebook ( here , here and here ).
The image contradicts Reuters reports that Trump supporters stormed the Capitol building on Jan 6 (here). CNN posted no such news on its website and its reporting called the demonstrators who stormed the capitol "pro-Trump rioters" (here).
There are clear signs the screenshot was doctored, for instance the news banner had incorrectly spelt "responsibility" and "Capitol Hill", and the fonts did not match CNN style.

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i'm not saying the picture is genuine, I'm saying that Reuters article most likely has a larger purpose than disputing the photo

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Again, what purpose would that be? Reuters, if you look at the places that rate which way media leans, is pretty much right in the middle. About as fair as it gets.

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1. I've become suspicious of anything that touts itself as a 'fact checker' have seen that used frequently as a political tool too many times over the past few years

2. the part that Antifa wouldn't put out a statement is pure speculation, does the writer know this personally? doubtful. so why put that in the article?

this smells like an attempt to use a broad brush on Trump supporters, you can dispute the authenticity of the photo, but once you venture outside specifics then I gotta call into question motivation of the piece.

good lord. Cant take responsibility for their own actions now blaming others. How convenient.

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good lord. Cant take responsibility for their own actions now blaming others. How convenient.

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Who?

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Do your research on him. He has an open case is Utah, I think. Also, Anderson Cooper had him on as a expert witness to the Capitol riots.