Election Interference/Fraud

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Misterree
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Civilized said:

ncsualum05 said:

Somehow Trump got a video on youtube last night once again denouncing anyone involved in the criminal activities last week, and warning against the dangers of censorship. It was a good message and one that was needed at this time of course no one will see it b/c I happened to find it on youtube but I'm sure it is deleted by now. No network will air it. But none the less he also denounced any intent to commit more acts against capitols on inauguration day.

Ultimately none of this matters b/c the first response out of DC is to blame the president for all of it and whip up a quick impeachment in the house. Because of this the temperature will not cool but indeed I anticipate there will be violence next week. The chances are much higher b/c of the actions taken since last Wednesday. It's a damn shame.

Wanting people to give Trump credit for trotting out that video after deadly riots that his months of lies fueled reminds me of that Chris Rock bit about bragging about things that you're supposed to do.

"I take care of my kids!!" LOLOL





Months of deadly riots? Are you mixing up BLM riots?
statefan91
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It says that the months of lies have led to deadly riots; not months of deadly riots.
packgrad
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statefan91 said:

It says that the months of lies have led to deadly riots; not months of deadly riots.


Riots is also not true.
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dogplasma
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You wouldn't think it would be too much to ask for Trump to address the nation on TV and appeal for calm. He could even say something like "Despite historic levels of voter support, I lost this election to President Elect Joe Biden. The election results are affirmed by our electoral and judicial processes which we, as a nation, will continue to trust even if we disagree with the outcome. I appeal to all people to make this a calm and peaceful transition."

I say this as the company I work for has just issued a security alert and is closing offices located near various state capitals. They also give guidelines on what to do if you encounter a protest to avoid confrontation. As one coworker put it: "*** kind of dystopian universe are we currently living in?"
Civilized
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ncsualum05 said:

Civilized said:

ncsualum05 said:

And can we stop with the Trump lies thing? Compared to what? Biden lies every time he opens his mouth and so do most of the other politicians. Spare me.

Compared to what??

Compared to humans. LOLOL

Why are you talking about Biden and the SJ riots?

Was he president when they were going on?

Did the rioters turn up in cities because he asked them to?

Most importantly, did he tweet bold-faced lies to the rioters multiple times daily for six months, completely fabricating the whole reason for the riots?


Last time I'll respond to this and then I'll move on.

No Biden was not president... he was the democrat party candidate for president and in his words... the leader of the democrat party. His words. The democrats made it clear that they were not going to work with Trump on any legislation to help nor were they going to do anything to tamp down the temperature of all the left wing violence that ensued from May until basically the election. He had a duty as the head of that party to call on his own party to work to punish rioters and stop the violence. He had a duty to work with president Trump and rise above everyone else's fighting in DC. No he did not ask for people to riot... he simply looked the other way or denied it was happening as did most of his colleagues.

And most of that is not his fault because the truth he is not the leader of the party nor does he have a full sound mind right now to make his own decisions and stand up for himself. And the fact is he wouldn't have won that election without massive mail in voting which invited fraud. We're moving on but that doesn't change the fact that it was an illegitmate election. Violence isn't the answer but the bed has been made.

You're still living in fantasy election fraud land, the lie that Trump created and Cruz, Hawley et. al. enabled.
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packgrad said:


Mast's response is spot on.
No it's not. The problem is not, and has not ever been, "asking Constitutional questions."

The constitutional questions were asked, and quickly answered by the courts. 60-some-odd times. There was never any evidence of widespread electoral fraud. Courts laughed at these weak sauce arguments and Trump attorneys admitting in court they had no evidence of fraud. Yet still, the drumbeat continued. Hell, Trump was still spouting the same lies as violence was occurring at the Capitol.

The problem has been daily lies from Trump that became fodder for uninformed masses looking for something or someone to believe in, which Trumpist congressmen then further enabled by continuing to publicly doubt the validity our election even when court after court after court shot them down.














packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:


Mast's response is spot on.
No it's not. The problem is not, and has not ever been, "asking Constitutional questions."

The constitutional questions were asked, and quickly answered by the courts. 60-some-odd times. There was never any evidence of widespread electoral fraud. Courts laughed at these weak sauce arguments and Trump attorneys admitting in court they had no evidence of fraud. Yet still, the drumbeat continued. Hell, Trump was still spouting the same lies as violence was occurring at the Capitol.

The problem has been daily lies from Trump that became fodder for uninformed masses looking for something or someone to believe in, which Trumpist congressmen then further enabled by continuing to publicly doubt the validity our election even when court after court after court shot them down.

















Orange man bad so Mast is wrong!!!!!
Civilized
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Read those Tweets.

Embarrassing for Trump. Embarrassing for his followers that believe(d) him.

Most of all, embarrassing for our country.
packgrad
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For the faux outrage crowd.

BBW12OG
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Civilized said:

Read those Tweets.

Embarrassing for Trump. Embarrassing for his followers that believe(d) him.

Most of all, embarrassing for our country.
Nothing can compare what has happened to the years of embarrassment the left, democrats, their leaders, their media partners and big tech has done. Say what you want, you will most certainly, but the mindset that the democrats and their blindly following sheep have undergone since 2016 is the most laughable thing since comedy was invented. Nothing the right, GOP or conservatives will ever match the stupidity on the left. No way. No how. No chance.
packgrad
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BBW12OG said:

Civilized said:

Read those Tweets.

Embarrassing for Trump. Embarrassing for his followers that believe(d) him.

Most of all, embarrassing for our country.
Nothing can compare what has happened to the years of embarrassment the left, democrats, their leaders, their media partners and big tech has done. Say what you want, you will most certainly, but the mindset that the democrats and their blindly following sheep have undergone since 2016 is the most laughable thing since comedy was invented. Nothing the right, GOP or conservatives will ever match the stupidity on the left. No way. No how. No chance.


Constitutional rights are only rights when Civilized says. Because orange man bad. He's literally supporting Jake Tapper's comments s about a wounded veteran because he's "embarrassed " about Trump.
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/law-enforcement-bulletin-feds-violent-extremism-terror-threat

Lock em' up!
packgrad
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acslater1344 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/law-enforcement-bulletin-feds-violent-extremism-terror-threat

Lock em' up!


BLM going down.
dogplasma
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Civilized is sharing Tweets. This is one of my favorites:

Pacfanweb
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:


Mast's response is spot on.
No it's not. The problem is not, and has not ever been, "asking Constitutional questions."

The constitutional questions were asked, and quickly answered by the courts. 60-some-odd times. There was never any evidence of widespread electoral fraud. Courts laughed at these weak sauce arguments and Trump attorneys admitting in court they had no evidence of fraud. Yet still, the drumbeat continued. Hell, Trump was still spouting the same lies as violence was occurring at the Capitol.

The problem has been daily lies from Trump that became fodder for uninformed masses looking for something or someone to believe in, which Trumpist congressmen then further enabled by continuing to publicly doubt the validity our election even when court after court after court shot them down.
















Those tweets right there, they were the basis for the beliefs and outrage of people who think Trump was defrauded. And if you go through all his claims there, every single one of them is untrue. And was easily debunked later. Yet to this day, he keeps repeating them.

That's why people are fired up: It's the President of the United States. No matter who it is or what you think of them, their words carry a certain amount of weight. He has abused that.
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Nope... I'm afraid some of you Trump haters are more wrong than you thought.
BBW12OG
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NO.... they are NEVER wrong..... just ask them. That's not "real media" anyway...unless it's CNN, MSNBC or one of the big three it's right wing extremist media. You know they can only get their information from a consolidated think tank. It is way easier for the unintelligent to actually be told what to think rather than weigh information from multiple sources. They have been waiting for the right time to launch their socialist/communist agenda. AOC just says the stuff out loud that is being talked about within party ranks. So unless President Trump was coordinating with the folks the last few weeks, which I'm sure Dandy Don Lemon has an "inside" source that has confirmed this, he was once again impeached over a sham..... and some on here still don't believe it.
packgrad
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Also more evidence that it was organized on Facebook, not Parler. Wonder if Biden will ask his administration to pursue antitrust charges against facebook, twitter, apple, google, and amazon.
ncsualum05
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packgrad said:

Also more evidence that it was organized on Facebook, not Parler. Wonder if Biden will ask his administration to pursue antitrust charges against facebook, twitter, apple, google, and amazon.
Well... it's interesting to see some truths actually come out. We are now seeing just how bad the rushed response was.

We now know the faux outrage and impeachment was just another political move against Trump. They couldn't even let him have his last week without putting that on record. Of course he'll never be found guilty in Senate... I don't think they're even going to meet before next Wed.

We know the shut down of parler and the erasing of voices on the right from big tech was a coordinated effort to take away speech they didn't agree with. All under the guise of "inciting violence".

Given what has ensued since 1/6 I'm afraid our powers that be have lied yet again to everyone and used this event as a catalyst to crush the MAGA movement on social media, even the president himself. There has been nothing that congress, legacy media, social media or anyone else in power has done the last week to help cool things down. They're going to reap what they sow. IF there was a book on all the things you SHOULDN'T do in response to this type of situation... well they've done it.

Look for 1/20 to be one of the ugliest days in American history. It will be a miracle if there is not a massive amount of violence and unrest in DC along with state capitols... particularly in the contested states.

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packgrad said:


Constitutional rights are only rights when Civilized says. Because orange man bad. He's literally supporting Jake Tapper's comments s about a wounded veteran because he's "embarrassed " about Trump.

LOL you're being as dramatic with me as the ninnies on here you justifiably make fun of.

My critique of his "Constitutional questions" farce had nothing to do with his incredible sacrifice or Jake Tapper.

As stated, he's wrong that the issue is simple quibbling over "Constitutional questions." It's the President and some Congressmen misleading the American public.

packgrad
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:


Constitutional rights are only rights when Civilized says. Because orange man bad. He's literally supporting Jake Tapper's comments s about a wounded veteran because he's "embarrassed " about Trump.

LOL you're being as dramatic with me as the ninnies on here you justifiably make fun of.

My critique of his "Constitutional questions" farce had nothing to do with his incredible sacrifice or Jake Tapper.

As stated, he's wrong that the issue is simple quibbling over "Constitutional questions." It's the President and some Congressmen misleading the American public.




As stated, he is 100% correct. Your TDS does not change that.
caryking
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dogplasma said:

You wouldn't think it would be too much to ask for Trump to address the nation on TV and appeal for calm. He could even say something like "Despite historic levels of voter support, I lost this election to President Elect Joe Biden. The election results are affirmed by our electoral and judicial processes which we, as a nation, will continue to trust even if we disagree with the outcome. I appeal to all people to make this a calm and peaceful transition."

I say this as the company I work for has just issued a security alert and is closing offices located near various state capitals. They also give guidelines on what to do if you encounter a protest to avoid confrontation. As one coworker put it: "*** kind of dystopian universe are we currently living in?"
This dystopian universe you're referring too was written about a long time ago. You can still find a copy on Amazon (unless it's being removed). It's called 1984.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
IseWolf22
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ncsualum05 said:

Civilized said:

ncsualum05 said:

Somehow Trump got a video on youtube last night once again denouncing anyone involved in the criminal activities last week, and warning against the dangers of censorship. It was a good message and one that was needed at this time of course no one will see it b/c I happened to find it on youtube but I'm sure it is deleted by now. No network will air it. But none the less he also denounced any intent to commit more acts against capitols on inauguration day.

Ultimately none of this matters b/c the first response out of DC is to blame the president for all of it and whip up a quick impeachment in the house. Because of this the temperature will not cool but indeed I anticipate there will be violence next week. The chances are much higher b/c of the actions taken since last Wednesday. It's a damn shame.

Wanting people to give Trump credit for trotting out that video after deadly riots that his months of lies fueled reminds me of that Chris Rock bit about bragging about things that you're supposed to do.

"I take care of my kids!!" LOLOL




He has been trying but he's being shut off by legacy media and social media. Hard to get a message out. That's the scary part for me.

Deadly riots? You mean the one incident last week which was terrible. And he also denounced it and was not responsible for it.

Biden never once last year denounced the groups of rioters and criminals destroying our streets in most major cities around the country. He never called on the people in Portland to get control of their city or denounce the government building attacks there. No left wing violence is ever answered for by democrats nor is it ever punished in the legal and justice system. Imagine if the response to the capitol riot had been the same response all last year... we might've nipped it in the bud long before it got to this point.
You sure about that?

George Floyd was May 25th

"[people] have a right to be, in fact, angry and frustrated. And more violence, hurting more people, isn't going to answer the question." - May 29th

"[protesting] is right and necessary" and "an utterly American response." "But burning down communities and needless destruction is not. Violence that endangers lives is not. Violence that guts and shutters businesses that serve the community is not." - May 31st

"There is no place for violence, no place for looting or destroying property or burning churches or destroying businesses."
"We need to distinguish between legitimate peaceful protest and opportunistic violent destruction," - June 2nd

"Peaceful protesters should be protected but arsonists and anarchists should be prosecuted and local law enforcement can do that." - July 28th

Aug. 31, after a man was fatally shot in Portland, Oregon, "The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable," he said. "Shooting in the streets of a great American city is unacceptable. I condemn this violence unequivocally. I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same."
caryking
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On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
waynecountywolf
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pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

IseWolf22 said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

BBW12OG said:



Just wanted to leave this here for our socialist friends to ponder over and determine just how to spin this.


BBW, no offense, but that needs to be authenticated. That is so damning to Nancy and the Democratic Party that it's hard to believe that it's real.
It's hard to believe anyone BELIEVES it's real.
Typical spin by a liberal progressive. What I said was that it needs to be authenticated. You make it personal... you just cant help yourself, can you?

How was what I said personal? Stop being such a baby. It was a general comment

If you're a "liberal progressive" now then 75% of the US is liberal.
Isle, you have shown yourself to be a flame thrower. Do me a favor and just stay out...
Oh yeah, Ise is definitely a master troller. LOL. Of all the folks here, both the poster accused of being one, and by whom....laughable on both counts.

You and BBW are single-handedly (or double handedly, I guess) going to make James do away with the Water Cooler. There was never any issues or folks crying for bans and to the mods before you two showed up recently.
Actually, I did propose making the Water Cooler part of the pay. It will definitely do some good to get people like you to pony up or out of here.

BTW, I've been here since the first day of this site. Oh and yes, I've been paying from the beginning. The only reason I have complained is because several people, with conservative views, have been censored.
It's not the conservative views that got you censored. And you know it.
And, I didn't say it was... hopefully, I was the one that elicited Steve post about decorum. Yes, I made a complaint about the way people were being censored. I wasn't the only one.

Truth of the matter, it's there business; however, I asked them to consider how libel they could be for the selective censoring the mods are doing. I saw what appeared to be an out of control mod.

You know we have a DM feature here? People use it to express concerns among themselves and not exclusively in the forums.

I'll never forget what Tom Gugliotta said to a young kid.. the kid was wearing a UNC hat and was asking for his autograph. A person spoke up and asked Tom: are you going to sign an autograph for that kid while wearing that hat? Tom said: it's a childhood disease. He'll grow out of it one day.

That response Tom gave is a comparative response by wise people when they get older. These progressives will grow out of it. It's fun being a progressive when you are young, when you get older, you realize your misguided beliefs...
It is "their" not there.
IseWolf22
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ncsualum05 said:

And can we stop with the Trump lies thing? Compared to what? Biden lies every time he opens his mouth and so do most of the other politicians. Spare me.
Compared to every other president. He made more verifiably false statements in his first year than Obama did in all 8. Read a transcript of any of his rally speeches and their are multiple fabrications.

The silly thing is the vast majority of his lies aren't even about anything important. Remember SharpieGate? That wasn't a big deal at all but for some reason he felt the need to prove himself right. Why did he make such a big deal about his inauguration crowd for months? He repeated that one over and over, for no reason. No one cared about that but him. It would be funny if he wasn't president
caryking
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Let's challenge you on this one ...

In Georgia, Stacey Abrams signs a consent decree with the Governor and/or SOS. This decree stated how signature verification would be done. (Research the decree before you answer)

Is that constitutionally sound?
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
waynecountywolf
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statefan91 said:

BBW12OG said:

statefan91 said:

BBW12OG said:

The country that you and the left want to "fundamentally change." Listening to democrats talk about the integrity of elections, love for the country and the Constitution is like listening to a cow talk about how nice and friendly the butcher is.
Your metaphor doesn't work mate. Unless you're saying the Constitution is the talking cow and Democrats are the butcher which I think is what you were going for?
Be smarter than the cow. It works just fine. You just failed to grasp it because you are one who wants socialism, one party rule and to be led around like a good little sheep.
You love a good farm metaphor. I'm going to think of Old McDonald everytime you post from now on
packgrad
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IseWolf22 said:

ncsualum05 said:

And can we stop with the Trump lies thing? Compared to what? Biden lies every time he opens his mouth and so do most of the other politicians. Spare me.
Compared to every other president. He made more verifiably false statements in his first year than Obama did in all 8. Read a transcript of any of his rally speeches and their are multiple fabrications.

The silly thing is the vast majority of his lies aren't even about anything important. Remember SharpieGate? That wasn't a big deal at all but for some reason he felt the need to prove himself right. Why did he make such a big deal about his inauguration crowd for months? He repeated that one over and over, for no reason. No one cared about that but him. It would be funny if he wasn't president


I certainly didn't keep up with his lies like the left, but many of his lies weren't even lies. He was just wrong. But the agenda based media label it a lie.
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waynecountywolf said:

pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

IseWolf22 said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

Pacfanweb said:

pineknollshoresking said:

BBW12OG said:



Just wanted to leave this here for our socialist friends to ponder over and determine just how to spin this.


BBW, no offense, but that needs to be authenticated. That is so damning to Nancy and the Democratic Party that it's hard to believe that it's real.
It's hard to believe anyone BELIEVES it's real.
Typical spin by a liberal progressive. What I said was that it needs to be authenticated. You make it personal... you just cant help yourself, can you?

How was what I said personal? Stop being such a baby. It was a general comment

If you're a "liberal progressive" now then 75% of the US is liberal.
Isle, you have shown yourself to be a flame thrower. Do me a favor and just stay out...
Oh yeah, Ise is definitely a master troller. LOL. Of all the folks here, both the poster accused of being one, and by whom....laughable on both counts.

You and BBW are single-handedly (or double handedly, I guess) going to make James do away with the Water Cooler. There was never any issues or folks crying for bans and to the mods before you two showed up recently.
Actually, I did propose making the Water Cooler part of the pay. It will definitely do some good to get people like you to pony up or out of here.

BTW, I've been here since the first day of this site. Oh and yes, I've been paying from the beginning. The only reason I have complained is because several people, with conservative views, have been censored.
It's not the conservative views that got you censored. And you know it.
And, I didn't say it was... hopefully, I was the one that elicited Steve post about decorum. Yes, I made a complaint about the way people were being censored. I wasn't the only one.

Truth of the matter, it's there business; however, I asked them to consider how libel they could be for the selective censoring the mods are doing. I saw what appeared to be an out of control mod.

You know we have a DM feature here? People use it to express concerns among themselves and not exclusively in the forums.

I'll never forget what Tom Gugliotta said to a young kid.. the kid was wearing a UNC hat and was asking for his autograph. A person spoke up and asked Tom: are you going to sign an autograph for that kid while wearing that hat? Tom said: it's a childhood disease. He'll grow out of it one day.

That response Tom gave is a comparative response by wise people when they get older. These progressives will grow out of it. It's fun being a progressive when you are young, when you get older, you realize your misguided beliefs...
It is "their" not there.
Get a job! Then pony up the $10 a month to be member!

BTW, I know the difference in the uses of their and there. It was probably a spell correct, fast typing, or something... more importantly, who the hell are you to correct me? You must be missing something in your live.
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
IseWolf22
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OK, here are my two all time favorite Trump Tweets



caryking
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IseWolf22 said:

OK, here are my two all time favorite Trump Tweets




Those are classic! Trump is GREAT!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
packgrad
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Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!

IseWolf22
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packgrad said:

Pearl necklaces to empower women. Lol!


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