cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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I have seen several people who have commented about an armed insurrection last week. I could of missed it but the only people that seemed to be armed were police. None of the images of people in the capital building showed any weapons at all.

Was storming the capital building a bad idea...absolutely. Unfortunately everyone in the media and the democrat politicians seem to have the same message and are using key words such as insurrection and sedition. They are all talking about the president being removed but everyone seems to gloss over the fact that this seems to be a normal thing. We can look at a few examples over the last few years.

• Alexandria Ocasio Cortez lead a group of protester into the capital building and stormed Nancy Pelosi's office two years ago
• The Hart Senate Building was stormed by protestors during the Kavanaugh senate hearings and confirmations
• The President had to be moved to a bunker by secret service during the DC riots last year because protestors were tearing down barriers that had been established by the secret service to protect the White House
• Protestors in Portland tried to gain access to a federal courthouse by beating on the doors and windows with crowbars and hammers. Those protesters had to be turned away by armed troops. Fires were lit near the courthouse in attempts to burn it down
• Wisconsin's capital building was occupied by protesters for weeks as republicans attempted to pass a bill.
• The Capital Hill Autonomous Zone was set up by rioters and protesters in Seattle. This included cordoning off 6 city blocks and taking over a sheriff's office. The leaders of the riot said that they had set up their own autonomous country and government. (this is actual sedition)
• Protestors in almost every major city in the country rioted and burned buildings and vehicles. State and federal property was destroyed on a massive scale.

We can also talk about the words and actions of politicians what were extremely inflammatory. Everyone treats Trump as some sort of crazed man, and he does like to stick his foot in his mouth, but I don't think that he has done anything outside of what other politicians have done

• Nancy Pelosi met with the Joint Chiefs on Friday to discuss not allowing Trump to use his presidential powers that have been granted by the constitution. That is quite literally a discussion on a potential coup.
• Democrat congressmen have objected to every republican presidents electoral college votes since 2000. I don't think this is a problem because that is a process that is laid out in the constitution. Republicans are being vilified for doing the exact same thing now.
• Maxine Waters, who is a democrat congressman) told people to get in the face of republicans that they saw in public and draw a crowd.
• Kamala Harris paid the bail for rioters who burnt down cities this past year. This included the people who attempted to set up their own country within Seattle. This is sedition
• Democrat politicians cheering on the rioting and burning down of cities.
• Over 70 democrats refused to attend Trump's inauguration in 2017.
• AOC marched protesters into Nancy Pelosi's office after giving a speech
• During the protest during Trump's inauguration one of the speakers said "I've thought a lot about blowing up the white house"
• Lots of democrat politicians spent 4 years telling us that Trump was illegitimate

Finally, I want to touch on Trump and other republicans being suspended from twitter. Back in 2018 a judge ruled that Trump couldn't block people because twitter was a public square. If that is the case then politicians shouldn't be able to block people, because legally twitter is considered a public square. Unfortunately this law isn't enforced equally across the board. I see democrat politicians blocking people all the time. I am all for twitter enforcing their terms and conditions on trump and other users, but those rules aren't enforced equally across the board. I spent 15-20 minutes on twitter this morning and found the following: porn (lots and lots of porn), harassment of users, vile and racist comments, dictators commenting on genocide, pictures of effigies of Trump being hung, burnt and destroyed, one "popular" comedian holding a very bloody head that was made to look like Trump, and a lot of comments on how the republican party and trump needed to be punished. All of these are against the Terms and Conditions of twitter, but these are allowed to remain. If this is the case then when is Trump removed?

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I can't believe that I forgot to add these as well:

Multiple republican congressmen shot at during baseball practice before congressional game by democrat supporter

Ran Paul assaulted in front of his home by democrat neighbor. There was a ton of cheering for this one in the twitterverse

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Here is an article with a collection of people threatening violence if the senate held hearing to replace Ginsberg in the Supreme Court

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/18/after-rbgs-death-left-wing-activists-promise-violence-if-trump-appoints-her-replacement/

These people all still have twitter accounts

When young and you're a Democrat, you're cool, if old, and you're still a Democrat, you're a fool...

My assumption is that those protesters you mentioned in the Kavanaugh hearings and Pelosi's office did not storm the Capitol and unlawfully gain entry? Also it sounds like they were removed and arrested on site.

The storming of the Capitol building was with the intent purpose of stopping the certification of the Electoral college. It also featured a Capitol police officer being beaten to death on the steps by a mob and armed individuals with zip cuffs intending to take hostages. Oh and there was also a gallows set up outside.

gpwncsu said:

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Folks that overran the capital police consisted of armed folks. Let's not forget the three vehicles with explosives that were found at a couple of locations.

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I think it's not prudent to paint a broad brush of everyone having one agenda who entered the capital. There were people like this idiot intent on doing harm, there were people who believe in whatever they believe and thought they were patriotic, there were people caught up in the moment, there were agitators, and there were people trying to prevent violence from occurring.

Much like this summers BLM protests, I think what you saw was the 1% of bad actors but unfortunately they poison the 99% of people who mean well. There needs to be restraint by those of us who are not on the extreme left or right to rush to judgement every time we see something bad happen during a protest or march.

BBW12OG said:

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Good to know.

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https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/arnold-schwarzenegger-trump-failed-leader-worst-president-capitol-riots-statement


"President Trump tried to overturn the results of an election, and of a fair election. He sought a coup by misleading people with lies. My father and our neighbors were misled also with lies, and I know where such lies lead," he said. "President Trump is a failed leader. He will go down in history as the worst president ever. The good thing is that he will soon be as irrelevant as an old tweet. But what are we to make of those elected officials who have enabled his lies and his treachery? I will remind them of what Teddy Roosevelt said: 'Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president.'"


Wise words from Terminator.

cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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I have seen several people who have commented about an armed insurrection last week. I could of missed it but the only people that seemed to be armed were police. None of the images of people in the capital building showed any weapons at all.

Was storming the capital building a bad idea...absolutely. Unfortunately everyone in the media and the democrat politicians seem to have the same message and are using key words such as insurrection and sedition. They are all talking about the president being removed but everyone seems to gloss over the fact that this seems to be a normal thing. We can look at a few examples over the last few years.

• Alexandria Ocasio Cortez lead a group of protester into the capital building and stormed Nancy Pelosi's office two years ago
• The Hart Senate Building was stormed by protestors during the Kavanaugh senate hearings and confirmations
• The President had to be moved to a bunker by secret service during the DC riots last year because protestors were tearing down barriers that had been established by the secret service to protect the White House
• Protestors in Portland tried to gain access to a federal courthouse by beating on the doors and windows with crowbars and hammers. Those protesters had to be turned away by armed troops. Fires were lit near the courthouse in attempts to burn it down
• Wisconsin's capital building was occupied by protesters for weeks as republicans attempted to pass a bill.
• The Capital Hill Autonomous Zone was set up by rioters and protesters in Seattle. This included cordoning off 6 city blocks and taking over a sheriff's office. The leaders of the riot said that they had set up their own autonomous country and government. (this is actual sedition)
• Protestors in almost every major city in the country rioted and burned buildings and vehicles. State and federal property was destroyed on a massive scale.

We can also talk about the words and actions of politicians what were extremely inflammatory. Everyone treats Trump as some sort of crazed man, and he does like to stick his foot in his mouth, but I don't think that he has done anything outside of what other politicians have done

• Nancy Pelosi met with the Joint Chiefs on Friday to discuss not allowing Trump to use his presidential powers that have been granted by the constitution. That is quite literally a discussion on a potential coup.
• Democrat congressmen have objected to every republican presidents electoral college votes since 2000. I don't think this is a problem because that is a process that is laid out in the constitution. Republicans are being vilified for doing the exact same thing now.
• Maxine Waters, who is a democrat congressman) told people to get in the face of republicans that they saw in public and draw a crowd.
• Kamala Harris paid the bail for rioters who burnt down cities this past year. This included the people who attempted to set up their own country within Seattle. This is sedition
• Democrat politicians cheering on the rioting and burning down of cities.
• Over 70 democrats refused to attend Trump's inauguration in 2017.
• AOC marched protesters into Nancy Pelosi's office after giving a speech
• During the protest during Trump's inauguration one of the speakers said "I've thought a lot about blowing up the white house"
• Lots of democrat politicians spent 4 years telling us that Trump was illegitimate

Finally, I want to touch on Trump and other republicans being suspended from twitter. Back in 2018 a judge ruled that Trump couldn't block people because twitter was a public square. If that is the case then politicians shouldn't be able to block people, because legally twitter is considered a public square. Unfortunately this law isn't enforced equally across the board. I see democrat politicians blocking people all the time. I am all for twitter enforcing their terms and conditions on trump and other users, but those rules aren't enforced equally across the board. I spent 15-20 minutes on twitter this morning and found the following: porn (lots and lots of porn), harassment of users, vile and racist comments, dictators commenting on genocide, pictures of effigies of Trump being hung, burnt and destroyed, one "popular" comedian holding a very bloody head that was made to look like Trump, and a lot of comments on how the republican party and trump needed to be punished. All of these are against the Terms and Conditions of twitter, but these are allowed to remain. If this is the case then when is Trump removed?

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I can't believe that I forgot to add these as well:

Multiple republican congressmen shot at during baseball practice before congressional game by democrat supporter

Ran Paul assaulted in front of his home by democrat neighbor. There was a ton of cheering for this one in the twitterverse

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Here is an article with a collection of people threatening violence if the senate held hearing to replace Ginsberg in the Supreme Court

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/18/after-rbgs-death-left-wing-activists-promise-violence-if-trump-appoints-her-replacement/

These people all still have twitter accounts

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Why is nancy pelosi still allowed to tweet

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She didnt incite a riot, or even try to incite a riot.

Ground_Chuck said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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cowboypack02 said:

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I have seen several people who have commented about an armed insurrection last week. I could of missed it but the only people that seemed to be armed were police. None of the images of people in the capital building showed any weapons at all.

Was storming the capital building a bad idea...absolutely. Unfortunately everyone in the media and the democrat politicians seem to have the same message and are using key words such as insurrection and sedition. They are all talking about the president being removed but everyone seems to gloss over the fact that this seems to be a normal thing. We can look at a few examples over the last few years.

• Alexandria Ocasio Cortez lead a group of protester into the capital building and stormed Nancy Pelosi's office two years ago
• The Hart Senate Building was stormed by protestors during the Kavanaugh senate hearings and confirmations
• The President had to be moved to a bunker by secret service during the DC riots last year because protestors were tearing down barriers that had been established by the secret service to protect the White House
• Protestors in Portland tried to gain access to a federal courthouse by beating on the doors and windows with crowbars and hammers. Those protesters had to be turned away by armed troops. Fires were lit near the courthouse in attempts to burn it down
• Wisconsin's capital building was occupied by protesters for weeks as republicans attempted to pass a bill.
• The Capital Hill Autonomous Zone was set up by rioters and protesters in Seattle. This included cordoning off 6 city blocks and taking over a sheriff's office. The leaders of the riot said that they had set up their own autonomous country and government. (this is actual sedition)
• Protestors in almost every major city in the country rioted and burned buildings and vehicles. State and federal property was destroyed on a massive scale.

We can also talk about the words and actions of politicians what were extremely inflammatory. Everyone treats Trump as some sort of crazed man, and he does like to stick his foot in his mouth, but I don't think that he has done anything outside of what other politicians have done

• Nancy Pelosi met with the Joint Chiefs on Friday to discuss not allowing Trump to use his presidential powers that have been granted by the constitution. That is quite literally a discussion on a potential coup.
• Democrat congressmen have objected to every republican presidents electoral college votes since 2000. I don't think this is a problem because that is a process that is laid out in the constitution. Republicans are being vilified for doing the exact same thing now.
• Maxine Waters, who is a democrat congressman) told people to get in the face of republicans that they saw in public and draw a crowd.
• Kamala Harris paid the bail for rioters who burnt down cities this past year. This included the people who attempted to set up their own country within Seattle. This is sedition
• Democrat politicians cheering on the rioting and burning down of cities.
• Over 70 democrats refused to attend Trump's inauguration in 2017.
• AOC marched protesters into Nancy Pelosi's office after giving a speech
• During the protest during Trump's inauguration one of the speakers said "I've thought a lot about blowing up the white house"
• Lots of democrat politicians spent 4 years telling us that Trump was illegitimate

Finally, I want to touch on Trump and other republicans being suspended from twitter. Back in 2018 a judge ruled that Trump couldn't block people because twitter was a public square. If that is the case then politicians shouldn't be able to block people, because legally twitter is considered a public square. Unfortunately this law isn't enforced equally across the board. I see democrat politicians blocking people all the time. I am all for twitter enforcing their terms and conditions on trump and other users, but those rules aren't enforced equally across the board. I spent 15-20 minutes on twitter this morning and found the following: porn (lots and lots of porn), harassment of users, vile and racist comments, dictators commenting on genocide, pictures of effigies of Trump being hung, burnt and destroyed, one "popular" comedian holding a very bloody head that was made to look like Trump, and a lot of comments on how the republican party and trump needed to be punished. All of these are against the Terms and Conditions of twitter, but these are allowed to remain. If this is the case then when is Trump removed?

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I can't believe that I forgot to add these as well:

Multiple republican congressmen shot at during baseball practice before congressional game by democrat supporter

Ran Paul assaulted in front of his home by democrat neighbor. There was a ton of cheering for this one in the twitterverse

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Here is an article with a collection of people threatening violence if the senate held hearing to replace Ginsberg in the Supreme Court

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/18/after-rbgs-death-left-wing-activists-promise-violence-if-trump-appoints-her-replacement/

These people all still have twitter accounts

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Why is nancy pelosi still allowed to tweet

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She didnt incite a riot, or even try to incite a riot.

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This was less than a month before a democrat shot up a baseball field full of Republicans who supported Trump. Seems to me that Pelosi's tweets could of been a dog whistle...

BBW12OG said:

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BBW12OG said:

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The country that you and the left want to "fundamentally change." Listening to democrats talk about the integrity of elections, love for the country and the Constitution is like listening to a cow talk about how nice and friendly the butcher is.

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Your metaphor doesn't work mate. Unless you're saying the Constitution is the talking cow and Democrats are the butcher which I think is what you were going for?

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Be smarter than the cow. It works just fine. You just failed to grasp it because you are one who wants socialism, one party rule and to be led around like a good little sheep.

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You love a good farm metaphor. I'm going to think of Old McDonald everytime you post from now on

https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-police-chief-sought-dc-national-guard-help-before-riots

"As soon as they hit the fence line, the fight was on," Sund told the newspaper. "Violent confrontations from the start. They came with riot helmets, gas masks, shields, pepper spray, fireworks, climbing gear -- climbing gear! -- explosives, metal pipes, baseball bats. I have never seen anything like it in 30 years of events in Washington."

From the now-resigned head of Capitol Police. Yikes.

BBW12OG said:

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Yeah and as soon as I have time to sift through the dozens of pages to cut, copy and paste what was said I most certainly will. Not a high priority. If you are so concerned why don't you go over and do it? Aside from putting your nose into something that had nothing to do with you it may help you pass the time.

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Well, I wasn't the one saying the **** happened in the first place so it's not my job to produce receipts for you. Aside from that, I don't visit other State message boards so I'm not sure which one you're even referring to.

Truthfully, I'm just here for one of you to be outed as a lying chode sniffer. He has presented what he says you're talking about and you haven't. Seems like it's time for you to produce those receipts, friend.

lol so anybody who doesn't support Donald Trump or his minions is a "radical leftist" now? I wouldn't go lecturing folks on what the "truth" is with that kind of stance.