pineknollshoresking said:
Pacfanweb said:
pineknollshoresking said:
Pacfanweb said:
SupplyChainPack said:
Pacfanweb said:
pineknollshoresking said:
Pacfanweb said:
pineknollshoresking said:
BTW, I voted for Ted Cruz in the primary. I did not like Trumps antics (funny, huh). As he became President and when I saw the all out war against him, I started to support him more.
I have said this before: This country needed and continues to need a mouthpiece that's as bold as his (like it or not). I believe we are so misled by the media, the establishment GOP, the Democrats that no one would have been able to navigate though it...
Through it all, look at the positive accomplishments that have happened.
See, I don't even disagree with that. He was kind of a breath of fresh air compared to most politicians.
But it's worn thin, and he hasn't learned anything. He simply lashes out at anyone who disagrees with him.
Literally, if he claimed the sun rises in the west and someone corrected him, he'd fire them or tweet about how stupid they were.
Basically, as with anybody in your life... you take the good with the bad. I fight in my support as I believe the good outweighs the bad!!!!
That's fair enough, I have no problem with that at all. I was okay with it until the results of the election came in. There's nothing to fight with this. This has gone way over the line.
The people have spoken and he is trying to go against the will of the people. That's the line that you simply cannot cross.
But that's simply false. There was massive and obvious voter fraud for Biden.
Every one knows this - it's simply a matter of who is honest about it and who isn't.
Once again, if that was the case, why did Trump not present evidence of that in the courts? You keep saying it's so obvious, yet every single example anybody has ever put up has been debunked and proven to be BS. Continuing to claim there was fraud with zero evidence, does not make it so.
Pacfan, do you really believe all these people that have come forward with some issue is just flat out lying? Trump is not calling these people to lie... or, do you believe he did? You did say he is lying seven out of ten times he post...
Whether the evidence is presented in court, or not, for whatever reason (including the court not having hearings), that still doesn't make these people a lier.
I think you have to delineate your thoughts:
- People making accusations and writing them down in affidavits - are they lying?
- The court proceedings moving forward and ruling how they do - It is what it is...
I think it is very misguided to think all these people are just lying about this. That would be the most massive fraud w
e've ever seen. Are you really saying that?
Some of them are lying, yes. Some of them are just wrong. Either way, what they are saying is almost 100% not true. I will leave out a small little bit of a % of them that could possibly be right, but there's no evidence at all that there was any massive fraud. I'm sure there's always a little bit here and there, but there was no more in this election than there was in any other, and it did not affect the outcome.
All of it has proven to be either hearsay with no way to back it up, outright wrong, or just someone saying they believe this or that happened. A lot of them, actually. Someone signing an affidavit that says they believe there was fraud is nothing. That has literally been what some of them said.
Of the ones who actually claimed they saw something, I am unaware of any of them that have not been debunked as either wrong or at least inaccurate... Whether it was by choice or they just didn't know.
Regardless, there has been no evidence presented to a court anywhere that was legit. It's all either been hearsay or speculation, or lawsuits that were basically unlawful and got dismissed.
pacfan, you continue to amaze me how you know what's in the heart and mind of other people. The absolutism you have should be used for something better than you currently do. Whatever job you have, I am confident you can use your powers for something better.
Never have claimed such.
Again, all the things you responded to here, as I said, were proven to be hearsay or outright false.
Remember the "they had suitcases of ballots in Georgia" claim? Yep, false. They were proven to be in the exact same type of cases as all the rest of the ballots. Yet you can still find people making that claim.
I don't need to know what's in someone else's heart. I know what they've presented in court....and it's all been BS. Once that's happened, you can come on pretty strong with the "it's all BS" claims.
Things like this:
"The judge said the hundreds of pages of affidavits and declarations the plaintiffs submitted as evidence of fraud were "only impressive for their volume," and said Powell's lawsuit was "void of plausible allegations that Dominion voting machines were actually hacked or compromised."She literally filed a claim in court that said there was massive election fraud with ZERO evidence of such fraud.
Nothing.
But Trump claims "fraud". Someone makes up a meme claiming someone saw fraud. It's a total lie, but it gets posted somewhere, and the Trump fans make it go viral and just accept it as fact.
I could literally make up a meme right now and say something like "A Democratic party bigwig has admitted to Feds that they rigged the election", put it on a cool-looking meme format, post it on some right-wing message board and it would make the rounds.
And that's exactly what has been happening. People making things up, getting the Trump base all riled up about the fraud that didn't happen, and here we are: A formerly-respected lawyer like Sidney Powell is filing claims in court with zero evidence. Just affidavits of "people that feel there was fraud", and complete BS analysis from a former Army mechanic that was supposedly in intelligence. Except he wasn't. Ever.
That's about the crux of it.