ncsualum05 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
Civilized said:
GuerrillaPack said:
Steve Williams said:
I'm sorry. I respect everyone's right to their own opinion. But I simply cannot get on board with the world being flat. No disrespect intended. Beyond that, our entire world seems to be in a mess right now. That people may be required to show a vaccine passport to participate in society is terrifying to me. Our leaders have to put an end to this madness. I'm afraid we're going down a predictable path. The number of people willing to be vaccinated is dropping drastically. I think there will be a pleading phase followed by a bargaining phase followed by a threatening phase from the powers that be.
Steve, I totally agree about the vaccines. They will slowly turn up the pressure. First it will be vaccines being required for some colleges, and to attend some sporting and entertainment events, and to fly on airlines. It's already being required to travel to certain foreign countries. Then after a short time, it will gain momentum, and many state governors may issue executive orders requiring you to be injected in order to go to restaurants, go to your job, and basically go anywhere outside your own home.
If you would have asked me 5 or 6 years ago, I would have said that the idea of the world being flat was crazy too. All I can say is that everyone needs to do their own research - which is the case for any subject. But, aside from just that issue, the unfortunate reality is that we are being lied to and defrauded on a massive scale on so many things, and it is all connected to a worldwide agenda to deceive, oppress and enslave humanity and promote an anti-Christ(ian) agenda. Many people dismiss this...but those who believe the Bible should not be surprised, as we should know that there is, in fact, and ongoing Satanic conspiracy to bring in worldwide tyranny - notably, as discussed in the book of Revelation, concerning a one world government and the "mark of the Beast" system.
GP, Steve-
I could easily see a conditional vaccination protocol in certain situations where you are either vaccinated or are required to wear a mask, similar to vaccination policies for hospital staff during flu season. I'm not saying this is good or bad but I don't find it highly unreasonable.
I think some people think of trust in government wrong. I don't trust that elected officials will behave because their interests are selfless or perfectly aligned with ours; I think they'll not do crazy **** out of their own pure self-interest.
They'll be out of a job and lose the power they crave if they act like loons.
As far as world domination conspiracy theories they'd require the complicity and secrecy and bad actions of too many people to pull off.
As far as world being anti-Christian, what is that based on? Christianity is not some niche religion, it's the most-practiced religion in the world. That said, with Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and also other small but significant religions also being practiced around the world in collectively large numbers I wouldn't expect Christianity to receive preferential treatment disproportionate to its small plurality in the world religious landscape.
Just because a lot of people would need to be involved in a conspiracy (covering up the truth, keeping silent, otherwise complicit), does not mean that it is "impossible" for these conspiracies to exist. Look, for example, at the JFK assassination. It is blatantly obvious that the "official" story is a pile of BS. Even just doing a little bit of investigation, it is apparent that Kennedy was shot from his front (with one bullet impact causing his head to move to the back and left, and blowing off a chunk of the back of his skull). And if you do more investigation into the assassination, you will discover many eyewitnesses who saw and heard shots come from the area of the "grassy knoll". Many other eyewitnesses who "knew too much" were intimidated into silence or died under suspicious circumstances.
And yet virtually all levels of government, and all of the press/media have lied to the public for almost 60 years about the JFK assassination, covering up the truth. The fact that there are literally thousands of people complicit in the cover-up doesn't make this conspiracy "impossible". It has happened. Yet, despite that, there are always whistle-blowers and the truth eventually gets out. The only problem is that the truth is suppressed, and not broadcast via the "mainstream" press and media, and other Establishment channels. And then the Establishment ridicules people who expose the truth, with name-calling -- eg, calling them "crazy", slapping the label "conspiracy theorists" on them, etc.
It's the same pattern with various other REAL conspiracies -- such as the "New World Order" conspiracy and this drive towards a tyrannical one-world government system. This is actually happening. The United Nations, for example, is a big step towards such a one-world government. And we see, for example, with the European Union another incremental step towards this, with the erosion of national sovereignty and borders and uniting nations into a larger regional government. Or, for example, look at Marxism/communism. This is an "open" conspiracy. It is a nefarious/malevolent agenda that has advanced for over 150 years, taking over various nations, using all forms of deception, fraud, terrorism, and other criminal means. Hundreds of thousands or millions of people have been involved in advancing the communist conspiracy. Does that mean it was "impossible" to do it, and that this communist agenda/conspiracy, therefore, "can't possibly exist"? Of course not. This Marxist/communist conspiracy is very real. And it is the main political vehicle being used currently to bring in the NWO agenda -- with virtually all Western nations, including the United States, being incrementally changed via socialism and conquered for the Marxist agenda.
As for this Marxist/NWO agenda being anti-Christian, that is noteworthy to Christian believers since we know that the God of the Bible (the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) is the one and only true God. And this Satanic agenda for a "New World Order" is primarily characterized as being hostile to Christianity, because Satan and His minions are enemies of God and are trying to implement this world tyranny as a direct attack on God and His people. This is why virtually everything promoted by the Establishment (Hollywood, Establishment media, Marxist/Leftist governments) is an attack on Biblical/Christian values -- eg, Hollywood and Establishment media promotion of abortion, homosexuality, transgender agenda, sexual promiscuity, witchcraft (eg, Harry Potter and all the witches in the Disney movies, etc), theory of evolution and atheism, etc.
Your post has a lot in it. It's going to be uncomfortable for a lot of people. Sometimes you go a bridge too far for me however this post is pretty spot on IMO. If you study the bible there are pieces that have to come into place for the end times. I think the UN, EU, marxism, and globalism are definitely a part of those pieces. And if you study the bible you know that this world actually belongs to Satan. He is the god of this world right now. God is watching but he is currently allowing Satan to have the power he has. The world events are indeed part of Satan's plan and the spiritual war going on in the background. What's interesting is Satan thinks things are coming together for him but this is indeed all part of God's plan as well. Satan actually thinks he can win.
Preceding rapture and tribulation which are the last most awful days of the earth there are "birth pangs" and "sorrows" in the world just like there always have been however intensity and frequency will increase as we get closer. Just in the last 20 years we've had 9/11, the great recession, and COVID 19 among other horrible events. Think about the horrible events that happened between 1980-2000 and then 2001-now.
Also the nation of Israel being back, world travel possible with relative ease, devices in your hands to see what's going on are all part of the pieces coming together.
It baffles me how so many people who profess to be Christians and believe the Bible will dismiss and scoff at the idea of a nefarious conspiracy by world elites to bring in a worldwide tyrannical agenda -- aka, the "New World Order" conspiracy. The Bible tells us this will happen. As you said, the Bible tells us that Satan is conspiring against God, and is the power behind various nations and is trying to establish world domination. In the books of Daniel and Revelation, it describes Satan being the "spiritual power" behind several world empires down through history -- including Babylon, Rome, and the "end time" one-world power.
In the New Testament, it describes where Satan tempts the Messiah by "showing Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me." (
Matthew 4:8-9) Satan could offer those kingdoms, because Satan has been given power to rule over the kingdoms of the world. He was the spiritual power behind Babylon, the Roman Empire, and many other nations and kingdoms. And this is why world elites are in these occult secret societies, such as the Illuminati and Freemasonry, which worship Lucifer. These world elites have taken the "bargain" offered by Satan. They worship him, in return for power.
I agree that what is happening now does fit very well with the "end times" described in the Bible. That said, the book of Revelation is difficult to interpret, and many people have been wrong trying to predict when the events described will come to pass. So, the "end of the age" could happen in our lifetimes, or it could be a couple hundred years from now.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19