Mormad said:

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Werewolf said:

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A picture is worth a 1,000 words and typing not required

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Would it be fair to say, since you guys are always saying the wu flu is safe for 99.9% of people with the endpoint being "death," that the Vax is safe for that age range since the myocarditis rate is between 52-105 per million (0.01%) with the endpoint being "myocarditis" which is treated with NSAIDs for a few days? Not saying I'd run out and inject my 15yo son if I had one with a normal immune system and bmi, just trying to make sure we look at all sides of this stuff.

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New Study Finds That Long COVID May Not Actually Exist

A new National Institutes of Health (NIH) study is raising questions about just how real "long COVID" is.

The study found that there was no evidence of long-term COVID-19 infection in patients who were six or more weeks removed from the onset of symptoms, even if those patients reported that they were experiencing "long COVID." Further, the study found that individuals who reported having long COVID were disproportionately women and individuals with history of anxiety disorders.

"Exploratory studies found no evidence of persistent viral infection, autoimmunity, or abnormal immune activation in participants with PASC," the authors concluded. "Abnormal findings on physical examination and diagnostic testing were uncommon."

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Mormad said:

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Werewolf said:

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When a person 1st hears censored information or comments of a highly accomplished scientist - one that was a respected former Chief Scientist for a major pharmaceutical giant. Yeadon comes forward to resist the narrative .......at his peril.......as he stands in the way of the train barreling down the tracks out of control and an impending trainwreck.

Pretty strong words don't ya think?

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Not really. Dude was not THE chief scientist. He was one of 1000+ Pfizer VPs, and led a team researching meds for asthma and COPD, and I don't think his background makes him uniquely qualified to make such statements that should be believed without question.

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Mormad said:

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Werewolf said:

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When a person 1st hears censored information or comments of a highly accomplished scientist - one that was a respected former Chief Scientist for a major pharmaceutical giant. Yeadon comes forward to resist the narrative .......at his peril.......as he stands in the way of the train barreling down the tracks out of control and an impending trainwreck.

Pretty strong words don't ya think?

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Not really. Dude was not THE chief scientist. He was one of 1000+ Pfizer VPs, and led a team researching meds for asthma and COPD, and I don't think his background makes him uniquely qualified to make such statements that should be believed without question.

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But we must believe everything we are told to believe by King Fauci, the CDC, and the far Left criminal Marxist Lamestream media without question...or else you are a "wHaCko cOnSpiRaCY tHeOriSt!!"

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23/2/22 - A Swedish study published in MDPI found that the Pfizer vaccine goes into liver cells and converts to DNA, challenging claims so far that the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. https://t.co/HMnbzsQW5T

— Denachtzuster (@Denachtzuster1) June 1, 2022

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Stefan Oelrich, head of Bayer's pharma department delivers a speech during the Opening Ceremony of the World Health Summit 2021.

Several things he said are significant here:

1. he lays out in simple terms that mRNA vaccines are, indeed cell and/or gene therapy. (whether this can be read to be an admission they are specifically gene therapy is debatable as he uses the two terms as a compound category)

2. he's thrilled that people accepted it. "if we had surveyed 2 years ago if people were willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate."

3. he sees this as the big future thrust for Bayer.

4. and he sees the pandemic as "having opened eyes about innovation."

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Mormad said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Head of Pharma at Bayer admits that the covid vaccines are "gene therapy" (VIDEO):

https://rumble.com/vwg9b5-head-of-pharma-at-bayer-admits-that-the-mrna-vaccines-are-gene-therapy.html

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Stefan Oelrich, head of Bayer's pharma department delivers a speech during the Opening Ceremony of the World Health Summit 2021.

Several things he said are significant here:

1. he lays out in simple terms that mRNA vaccines are, indeed cell and/or gene therapy. (whether this can be read to be an admission they are specifically gene therapy is debatable as he uses the two terms as a compound category)

2. he's thrilled that people accepted it. "if we had surveyed 2 years ago if people were willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body we would have probably had a 95% refusal rate."

3. he sees this as the big future thrust for Bayer.

4. and he sees the pandemic as "having opened eyes about innovation."

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At this point after 600M doses, it's just semantics and opinions. Are they true gene therapy? Not really. Do you want to burn them in effigy if they are a form of gene therapy? Do they alter your genetic code? You act like it's some mystery how mRNA works.

Gene therapy will, in time, likely be the answer to many horrific diseases like ALS, Parkinson's, some cancers, rare diseases like Batten dz. Are you going to whine about it if you have a loved one with a devastating dz and gene therapy can cure it? I'd bet not. My niece had infantile Batten and it was horrific for her and our family. We tried stem cells in the brain, gene therapy, and everything we could. We raised 100s of thousands to support the labs and trials. It was too late for her, but the war continues for those families that are to come. I'd use pixie dust if it worked.

I just don't get what you're trying to accomplish here with the constancy of this. Trying to change our minds? You've made it clear you don't want the vaccine. Great! Your choice. We get it and we're so happy for you. But I will take a page from yall's hero Dr Yeadon and ask that you allow others to make their own decisions for them and their loved ones. Hell, man, most have already made their decision, so I guess you're just trying to make them feel like sht about it? That's really awesome, man.

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Mormad said:

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So because this Bayer says it, then it's true and everybody else lied?? Ok. Sounds reasonable.

Stefan saying it doesn't "prove" anything, so you repeating it doesn't "prove " anything.

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Mormad said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Mormad said:

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So because this Bayer says it, then it's true and everybody else lied?? Ok. Sounds reasonable.

Stefan saying it doesn't "prove" anything, so you repeating it doesn't "prove " anything.

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Right, right....nothing proves anything anymore. It's all "just semantics and opinions" now. The truth cannot be found. There is no absolute truth anymore.

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No. You're just not proving anything.

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Also, calling the mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" only proves someone does not know what "gene therapy" means. It is a term being thrown around to scare people into not getting a vaccine "proven" to be effective in reducing severe Covid infection and deaths.

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Mormad said:

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GuerrillaPack said:

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Daviewolf83 said:

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Also, calling the mRNA vaccines "gene therapy" only proves someone does not know what "gene therapy" means. It is a term being thrown around to scare people into not getting a vaccine "proven" to be effective in reducing severe Covid infection and deaths.

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Then I guess the head of pharma at Bayer doesn't know what gene therapy is either. And when says that the covid mRNA vaxx is "gene therapy", he says it in a positive way, encouraging people to get all the next wave of gene therapy vaccines that they have coming down the pipeline.

When I call the mRNA vaxx gene therapy, I do so not to "scare" people. I do so because it is THE TRUTH. How people choose to view that truth (positively or negatively) is up to them. Me personally, I don't trust King Fauci and the NIH, Big Pharma, DARPA and whoever else to produce gene altering vaccines that will actually help and benefit humanity. Actually, I think their motivation is the 180 degree opposite of that.

I think God designed my genetics and immune system just fine. If you think Fauci, the NIH, and DARPA can improve it...then I guess a sucker is born every minute.

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Hahaha, you don't see the complete irony in fully trusting "the head of pharma at Bayer " when he calls mRNA vaxxes "gene therapy" when it clearly is not while simultaneously screaming you don't trust "big pharma" and "whoever else to produce gene therapy" because you don't trust their "motivation?" That's almost as rich and bass ackwards as you constantly using PCR based data that you clearly opine as crap to "prove" your points.

Again, it is not a mystery how mRNA works. It is also not a mystery how gene therapy is defined. I offered a link that described it very simply for you. But you can't figure it out I guess. You say transgenders are trying to redefine biology, but you're guilty of the same thing for your own misguided agenda. You would rather trust the incorrect words of one big pharma man who you say you inherently dont trust because of "motivations." It's funny to me. Redefining biology. Who would have guessed.

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