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GuerrillaPack said:


Even if, hypothetically, hospitals are losing money with "covid" patients...there is STILL the financial incentive to label or designate a patient as a "covid" patient...because you get the extra money from the Feds for each patient you label as a "covid" patient...whether they actually have "covid" or not.

That's where the bogus PCR and other "testing" comes in handy...with probably 75% false positives...to falsely label tons of patients as "covid" patients when they don't actually have the black death Rona.
No provider or administration has incentive to make a few extra pennies to make up for their billions in deficits. They are much, much more worried about keeping their surgical programs open and running without COVID spread.

That number is not even close to accurate on the false positivity rate. Most tests are rated at about 80-85% sensitivity (measuring whether a positive is a true positive) and 98-99% specificity (measuring whether a negative is a true negative).

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GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

Steve Williams said:

Werewolf said:

https://www.educationviews.org/vaccine-acquired-immune-deficiency-syndrome-vaids-we-should-anticipate-seeing-this-immune-erosion-more-widely/

Dr. Mormod; I see New England Journal of Medicine referenced here in the article. I wonder if a hospitalist would speak out about such a thing as VAIDS in his/her hospital?

werewolf, feel free to debate the issues. Stop going after members here. Man, your posting style really seems familiar.
1. I'm not a big fan of werewolf, and I'm sure that he's not a big fan of me either… if you *think* that he's BBW, then I don't know what to even begin to say to that… he couldn't carry BBW's jock as far as I am concerned.
2. He probably has some good points in there somewhere, but he completely ****s it up with his delivery.
3. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care who wants to post whatever, but for god's sake when your only intent is to ruin the best thread on the WC, then you need to post your tripe somewhere else.
4. Davie and Wayland have been consistent from the start. I don't speak for them (and they don't need me to) but I don't think that either has ever defended the numbers that they have had availability to use. They are only using what is available, and I believe that each of them have mentioned several times over the last two years that they feel that the numbers are cooked.
5. Mormad doesn't need anyone here to stand up for him. His qualifications are impeccable. Surprised that he has been as "measured" in his responses as he has been, and I give him even more respect for doing so. I wouldn't be able to restrain myself to the level that he has.
6. All the above being said, the coding definitely affects the numbers… but no one needed werewolf to tell us that, it's been said here for at least the last year and a half.
7. I'm sure there are other necessary comments that need to be made here, but this is round 1.
1. Totally agree that Werewolf is NOT BBW. Their posting styles and verbiage they use is totally different.
2. "Delivery" is completely overrated. The commie Establishment Lamestream media has great "delivery", with slick graphics and teleprompter-reading presstitutes in slick suits to push the propaganda. But it's all lies. The truth is hard, and hurts.
3. You can not censor people for posting info you disagree with, even if in your favorite thread. Werewolf is not trying to "ruin" anything. He's simply posting info you happen to disagree with. "Ruin", by your definition, just means you disagree with his view. If you don't want to read his posts, you can use the "ignore" feature. But you cannot call for him to be banned and censored from the thread because you disagree with his views.

2. It causes people to not even bother to read what he posts… if you (or "he") can't figure that out, then that's on you two… not me.
3. He has become that poster that used to be the one that every post had a link to their own "shopping network"… yeah, I know that's not what he is doing, but his posts are the epitome of "spam"… he could put all that stuff on his own thread if he wanted to instead of ****ing up this thread.

I see that you ended up puss ing out on answering 4, 5 & 6… but not surprised.
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GuerrillaPack said:

PackPA2015 said:

I can provide an example of our hospital losing money with COVID patients.

During the summer wave of 2020, our system had put all non-emergent surgeries on hold. To offset that, they had outpatient providers take full weeks off at 50% pay. They had some nursing staff out for up to 8 weeks without pay. COVID patients are ridiculously expensive and outpatient clinics make zero profits for hospital systems. The money comes from surgeries, urgent care visits, and referrals to specialists for surgeries.

Luckily now, numbers are up, but not exceeding capacity. Most surgeries are continuing at the moment. The big worry for our system is staff. Omicron spreads like wildfire. Our system has even mentioned letting providers or nurses work while COVID + (in full PPE, N95) if needed. That has not had to happen so far, thankfully.
Even if, hypothetically, hospitals are losing money with "covid" patients...there is STILL the financial incentive to label or designate a patient as a "covid" patient...because you get the extra money from the Feds for each patient you label as a "covid" patient...whether they actually have "covid" or not.

That's where the bogus PCR and other "testing" comes in handy...with probably 75% false positives...to falsely label tons of patients as "covid" patients when they don't actually have the black death Rona.
"Tons" LOL. The amount of planning this would take in each hospital system and the amount of people that would have to be involved to code patients as a covid patient would be an unbelievable undertaking. How come there have been no whistle blowers within health systems? Is everyone that works a health system in coding and billing and administration crooks?
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TheStorm said:

GuerrillaPack said:

TheStorm said:

Steve Williams said:

Werewolf said:

https://www.educationviews.org/vaccine-acquired-immune-deficiency-syndrome-vaids-we-should-anticipate-seeing-this-immune-erosion-more-widely/

Dr. Mormod; I see New England Journal of Medicine referenced here in the article. I wonder if a hospitalist would speak out about such a thing as VAIDS in his/her hospital?

werewolf, feel free to debate the issues. Stop going after members here. Man, your posting style really seems familiar.
1. I'm not a big fan of werewolf, and I'm sure that he's not a big fan of me either… if you *think* that he's BBW, then I don't know what to even begin to say to that… he couldn't carry BBW's jock as far as I am concerned.
2. He probably has some good points in there somewhere, but he completely ****s it up with his delivery.
3. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't care who wants to post whatever, but for god's sake when your only intent is to ruin the best thread on the WC, then you need to post your tripe somewhere else.
4. Davie and Wayland have been consistent from the start. I don't speak for them (and they don't need me to) but I don't think that either has ever defended the numbers that they have had availability to use. They are only using what is available, and I believe that each of them have mentioned several times over the last two years that they feel that the numbers are cooked.
5. Mormad doesn't need anyone here to stand up for him. His qualifications are impeccable. Surprised that he has been as "measured" in his responses as he has been, and I give him even more respect for doing so. I wouldn't be able to restrain myself to the level that he has.
6. All the above being said, the coding definitely affects the numbers… but no one needed werewolf to tell us that, it's been said here for at least the last year and a half.
7. I'm sure there are other necessary comments that need to be made here, but this is round 1.
1. Totally agree that Werewolf is NOT BBW. Their posting styles and verbiage they use is totally different.
2. "Delivery" is completely overrated. The commie Establishment Lamestream media has great "delivery", with slick graphics and teleprompter-reading presstitutes in slick suits to push the propaganda. But it's all lies. The truth is hard, and hurts.
3. You can not censor people for posting info you disagree with, even if in your favorite thread. Werewolf is not trying to "ruin" anything. He's simply posting info you happen to disagree with. "Ruin", by your definition, just means you disagree with his view. If you don't want to read his posts, you can use the "ignore" feature. But you cannot call for him to be banned and censored from the thread because you disagree with his views.

2. It causes people to not even bother to read what he posts… if you (or "he") can't figure that out, then that's on you two… not me.
3. He has become that poster that used to be the one that every post had a link to their own "shopping network"… yeah, I know that's not what he is doing, but his posts are the epitome of "spam"… he could put all that stuff on his own thread if he wanted to instead of ****ing up this thread.

I see that you ended up puss ing out on answering 4, 5 & 6… but not surprised.
No, I just don't have time to respond to everything. 4,5,6,7 not worth my time.
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10 4, Steve, will do.
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hokiewolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

PackPA2015 said:

I can provide an example of our hospital losing money with COVID patients.

During the summer wave of 2020, our system had put all non-emergent surgeries on hold. To offset that, they had outpatient providers take full weeks off at 50% pay. They had some nursing staff out for up to 8 weeks without pay. COVID patients are ridiculously expensive and outpatient clinics make zero profits for hospital systems. The money comes from surgeries, urgent care visits, and referrals to specialists for surgeries.

Luckily now, numbers are up, but not exceeding capacity. Most surgeries are continuing at the moment. The big worry for our system is staff. Omicron spreads like wildfire. Our system has even mentioned letting providers or nurses work while COVID + (in full PPE, N95) if needed. That has not had to happen so far, thankfully.
Even if, hypothetically, hospitals are losing money with "covid" patients...there is STILL the financial incentive to label or designate a patient as a "covid" patient...because you get the extra money from the Feds for each patient you label as a "covid" patient...whether they actually have "covid" or not.

That's where the bogus PCR and other "testing" comes in handy...with probably 75% false positives...to falsely label tons of patients as "covid" patients when they don't actually have the black death Rona.
"Tons" LOL. The amount of planning this would take in each hospital system and the amount of people that would have to be involved to code patients as a covid patient would be an unbelievable undertaking. How come there have been no whistle blowers within health systems? Is everyone that works a health system in coding and billing and administration crooks?
You don't need "planning" or people to lie at the hospital. You have the bogus PCR and other "testing" that is completely inaccurate, to generate a huge number of false positives.

And there ARE whistleblowers exposing that the PCR and other "testing" is wildly inaccurate. But, of course, they are dismissed out of hand as "whacko conspiracy theorists" by people who prefer to guzzle the lies from the far Left commie Lamestream media Establishment and Gubbamint.
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PackPA2015 said:

GuerrillaPack said:


Even if, hypothetically, hospitals are losing money with "covid" patients...there is STILL the financial incentive to label or designate a patient as a "covid" patient...because you get the extra money from the Feds for each patient you label as a "covid" patient...whether they actually have "covid" or not.

That's where the bogus PCR and other "testing" comes in handy...with probably 75% false positives...to falsely label tons of patients as "covid" patients when they don't actually have the black death Rona.
No provider or administration has incentive to make a few extra pennies to make up for their billions in deficits. They are much, much more worried about keeping their surgical programs open and running without COVID spread.

That number is not even close to accurate on the false positivity rate. Most tests are rated at about 80-85% sensitivity (measuring whether a positive is a true positive) and 98-99% specificity (measuring whether a negative is a true negative).





$9 billion to $17 billion is "pennies"?

https://www.aha.org/topics/covid-19-coverage-and-reimbursement
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On another note, the Novak Djokovic saga going on in Australia is nothing but a complete disservice to sports in general… was it mandatory for Olympic Athletes to be vaccinated to go to Tokyo? If I were him, I would never, ever go back to that country again, and as he continues to ascend to the all-time leader in Grand Slam championships, I would do everything within my power to discourage others from going to such a Marxist state.

From a kid that was born in a former communist country nonetheless.

And the commentary on ESPN is totally disgusting… the more that politics gets dragged into sports, the less that I will continue to watch.

I'll watch the Australian if he is playing. I won't if he isn't… and I'll be taking this stand on an ongoing basis going forward.

I'm double vaccinated. I'm not boosted, and I'm not going to be until the Novavax comes out. I'm around people of all walks of life every single day and haven't worn a mask (other than flying) since May, and if after two years now (very close, March 12, 2020) I haven't been exposed, then I don't know what to say.

OF COURSE I've been exposed, and obviously I'm asymptomatic just like I am when I'm exposed to the flu and other "traditional" viruses… and I'm not going to **** that up by falling for "the boost".
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Yes, because those billions of dollars are split between all of the systems that have lost revenues.

"The average payment being announced today for small providers is $58,000, for medium providers is $289,000, and for large providers is $1.7 million. More than 69,000 providers in all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and eight territories will receive Phase 4 payments."

Considering an average COVID patient hospitalizations costs 20-40K each depending on severity, length of stay, etc., that is pennies on the dollar. That average cost is without an ICU stay. That bill is going to be in the 100-200K range.
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TheStorm said:

On another note, the Novak Djokovic saga going on in Australia is nothing but a complete disservice to sports in general… was it mandatory for Olympic Athletes to be vaccinated to go to Tokyo? If I were him, I would never, ever go back to that country again, and as he continues to ascend to the all-time leader in Grand Slam championships, I would do everything within my power to discourage others from going to such a Marxist state.

From a kid that was born in a former communist country nonetheless.

And the commentary on ESPN is totally disgusting… the more that politics gets dragged into sports, the less that I will continue to watch.


100% agree. I wish that more tennis players had not caved and submitted to being injected, and had organized to boycott the Australian Open over their vaxx mandate. If they would have done that, it's highly likely that Australia or the Australian Open would have backed down, and allowed athletes to compete that were not vaccinated.

This insanity is continuing (vaxx mandates, mask mandates, etc) because not enough people are standing up and resisting this tyranny. Too many people are cowering and complying, even among those who do not really want to take the vaccine -- but give in to the pressure (to be able to travel, for their job, etc). They don't realize the power of resisting, and organizing with others to mount a serious opposition -- which is often successful in stopping the agenda.

Djokovic is a hero. Not a villain. And I bet you that the Australian people and crowds love him for it, and will cheer him. The far Left communist media is pushing the lie that Australians are "angry" at Djokovic...but I don't buy that for 1 nanosecond.
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PackPA2015 said:

Yes, because those billions of dollars are split between all of the systems that have lost revenues.

"The average payment being announced today for small providers is $58,000, for medium providers is $289,000, and for large providers is $1.7 million. More than 69,000 providers in all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and eight territories will receive Phase 4 payments."

Considering an average COVID patient hospitalizations costs 20-40K each depending on severity, length of stay, etc., that is pennies on the dollar.


If you think a $58000 stimulus payment to a small provider is "pennies" you accentuate how completely out of touch you are. They don't have to get *****

The stimulus also accentuates why coding patients covid is important.
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packgrad said:

PackPA2015 said:

Yes, because those billions of dollars are split between all of the systems that have lost revenues.

"The average payment being announced today for small providers is $58,000, for medium providers is $289,000, and for large providers is $1.7 million. More than 69,000 providers in all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and eight territories will receive Phase 4 payments."

Considering an average COVID patient hospitalizations costs 20-40K each depending on severity, length of stay, etc., that is pennies on the dollar.


If you think a $58000 stimulus payment to a small provider is "pennies" you accentuate how completely out of touch you are. They don't have to get *****

The stimulus also accentuates why coding patients covid is important.
YEP. And he's still holding out hope that his student loans can be 100% forgiven that allowed him the opportunity to become a PA to begin with. Disgusting. I - and many others like me - had to repay our student loans (if we had them) along with those of our children. My family's are paid in full, and with no easy task in doing so.

His sense of entitlement turns me off to anything of value that he adds to this thread.

Sorry. Just being honest here.
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That money does not go to individual providers. It goes to systems or clinics. The money goes to buying PPE, N95s, etc. It does not go to my or any of our other provider's salaries.

Every system that has received funds is listed on the website you linked. You can compare the funds they received to their financials.
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And this is why I do not post in this thread much anymore.
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packgrad said:

PackPA2015 said:

GuerrillaPack said:


Even if, hypothetically, hospitals are losing money with "covid" patients...there is STILL the financial incentive to label or designate a patient as a "covid" patient...because you get the extra money from the Feds for each patient you label as a "covid" patient...whether they actually have "covid" or not.

That's where the bogus PCR and other "testing" comes in handy...with probably 75% false positives...to falsely label tons of patients as "covid" patients when they don't actually have the black death Rona.
No provider or administration has incentive to make a few extra pennies to make up for their billions in deficits. They are much, much more worried about keeping their surgical programs open and running without COVID spread.

That number is not even close to accurate on the false positivity rate. Most tests are rated at about 80-85% sensitivity (measuring whether a positive is a true positive) and 98-99% specificity (measuring whether a negative is a true negative).





$9 billion to $17 billion is "pennies"?

https://www.aha.org/topics/covid-19-coverage-and-reimbursement


It's not pennies, bud, that's for sure and we all appreciated it. He just meant comparatively. That only covers 10-20% of the deficit to hospitals (again, $54-100B in lost revenue for hospitals just for 2021 after CARES is accounted for, not including other health care facilities). So much appreciated, but the health care system/providers would much rather see covid restrictions disappear as reimbursement when it's "business as usual" is so much greater than that admittedly generous 9-17B.
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PackPA2015 said:

And this is why I do not post in this thread much anymore.

Just pay back what you borrowed (like the rest of us have had to do) and then you don't have to worry about it anymore.
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hokiewolf said:

Steve Videtich said:

Mormad said:

Maybe initially, Steve. I get it. But it's also intellectually lazy or disingenuous to assume, complain, argue without doing some reasonable research or info gathering. It's not that hard. That's drawing conclusions instead of making ignorant assumptions imho


Not being lazy at all. Don't be lazy and make assumptions about me and what I think. It's natural for people to have an opinion based on their perspectives, we all do. But, that perspective can also give us blind spots to reality, both inside and out. Nobody should be discounted for their thoughts and opinions, because the truth lies somewhere in the middle most times.

If I've learned anything in the last 4-5 years, it's to listen more. Just because I post something, doesn't mean that's what I die on the hill for. It's just food for thought. I appreciate and value everyone's input.
maybe so but he has a point. Hospital systems basically make money on out patient surgeries and thats about it. If you're in the hospital more than three days, you're pretty much costing the hospital money.

No one in the hospital administrator community was rejoicing over Covid like "finally! We're getting paid!" In fact, it was the exact opposite.
While I'm not unsympathetic to the hospitals need to remain a going concern, the hospitals have won a lot of political victories in establishing and maintaining certificate of need laws. Frankly, that one issue has me somewhat less than sympathetic to them but I'm open minded enough on the subject that I'd listen to someone make a strong case on why CON is vital to the maintenance of public health in North Carolina.
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Agree
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packgrad said:

PackPA2015 said:

Yes, because those billions of dollars are split between all of the systems that have lost revenues.

"The average payment being announced today for small providers is $58,000, for medium providers is $289,000, and for large providers is $1.7 million. More than 69,000 providers in all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and eight territories will receive Phase 4 payments."

Considering an average COVID patient hospitalizations costs 20-40K each depending on severity, length of stay, etc., that is pennies on the dollar.


If you think a $58000 stimulus payment to a small provider is "pennies" you accentuate how completely out of touch you are. They don't have to get *****

The stimulus also accentuates why coding patients covid is important.


I completely agree that coding pts as covid when they are indeed covid is important. It's also fair. I think we both agree that there's opportunity for fraud here, but i don't imagine it's very prevalent honestly. You may disagree.

To put the 58k number into perspective (i don't know how they defined small practice honestly, and we're a very large pvt practice group), that's about 10% of what it costs to run the office per month. Again, i don't want to sound ungrateful, but it's not a great sum of money for businesses like ours. But it definitely helps.
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Mormad said:

packgrad said:

PackPA2015 said:

Yes, because those billions of dollars are split between all of the systems that have lost revenues.

"The average payment being announced today for small providers is $58,000, for medium providers is $289,000, and for large providers is $1.7 million. More than 69,000 providers in all 50 states, Washington, D.C., and eight territories will receive Phase 4 payments."

Considering an average COVID patient hospitalizations costs 20-40K each depending on severity, length of stay, etc., that is pennies on the dollar.


If you think a $58000 stimulus payment to a small provider is "pennies" you accentuate how completely out of touch you are. They don't have to get *****

The stimulus also accentuates why coding patients covid is important.


I completely agree that coding pts as covid when they are indeed covid is important. It's also fair. I think we both agree that there's opportunity for fraud here, but i don't imagine it's very prevalent honestly. You may disagree.

To put the 58k number into perspective (i don't know how they defined small practice honestly, and we're a very large pvt practice group), that's about 10% of what it costs to run the office per month. Again, i don't want to sound ungrateful, but it's not a great sum of money for businesses like ours. But it definitely helps.


I don't disagree, and I don't necessarily think there's substantial fraud. I do think the way it was established so that there is payback for these patients is what draws the eyes to the recordkeeping.

Now, there is a big push for with Covid and of Covid differentiation. I think that's been important from the start and possibly would have changed our handling of the pandemic.
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Question Mormad, do doctors enter their own coding electronically now?. Back in my college days one of my several jobs was with a lady who did the data entry for different departments of the hospitals, medical offices, etc. It was somewhat a niche industry as it was low bid, but high margin, with not a lot of competition. Late night all night work. She made bank and paid us well. And we had some downright misfits working with us (which is what led me to assume there wasn't a lot of competition).

If things are still done that way I can definitely see how there could be widespread fraud. I can't imagine it's done that way now though, as I think part of what we were doing was moving records from paper to digital.
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Oldsouljer said:

hokiewolf said:

Steve Videtich said:

Mormad said:

Maybe initially, Steve. I get it. But it's also intellectually lazy or disingenuous to assume, complain, argue without doing some reasonable research or info gathering. It's not that hard. That's drawing conclusions instead of making ignorant assumptions imho


Not being lazy at all. Don't be lazy and make assumptions about me and what I think. It's natural for people to have an opinion based on their perspectives, we all do. But, that perspective can also give us blind spots to reality, both inside and out. Nobody should be discounted for their thoughts and opinions, because the truth lies somewhere in the middle most times.

If I've learned anything in the last 4-5 years, it's to listen more. Just because I post something, doesn't mean that's what I die on the hill for. It's just food for thought. I appreciate and value everyone's input.
maybe so but he has a point. Hospital systems basically make money on out patient surgeries and thats about it. If you're in the hospital more than three days, you're pretty much costing the hospital money.

No one in the hospital administrator community was rejoicing over Covid like "finally! We're getting paid!" In fact, it was the exact opposite.
While I'm not unsympathetic to the hospitals need to remain a going concern, the hospitals have won a lot of political victories in establishing and maintaining certificate of need laws. Frankly, that one issue has me somewhat less than sympathetic to them but I'm open minded enough on the subject that I'd listen to someone make a strong case on why CON is vital to the maintenance of public health in North Carolina.
I can assure you that there are several systems in NC who do not want the CON and would rather the market dictate services provided.
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Werewolf said:

https://www.revolver.news/2021/08/navy-commander-warns-national-security-threat-from-mandatory-vaccination/


Quote:

" The forced vaccination of all military personnel with the present COVID-19 vaccines may compromise U.S. national security due to the unknown extent of serious vaccine complications,"writes Furman. "Further study is needed before committing the Total Force to one irreversible experimental group. Initial reports leave more concern for the COVID-19 vaccinations than the virus itself for the (at present) exceptionally healthy military population."


As you and many others here probably know, the huge rash of severe illnesses grouped under "Gulf War Syndrome" are believed to have been caused by harmful side effects from the host of vaccines (many new and experimental), including an anthrax vaccine, that those soldiers were forced to take.

Besides treating our brave military members as "cannon fodder" in illegal wars to advance their globalist NWO agenda, the elite use the military as guinea pigs for harmful "vaccines".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2001/jul/30/internationalnews

Quote:

Illegal vaccine link to Gulf war syndrome

Paul Brown, environment correspondent
Sun 29 Jul 2001

The illness known as Gulf war syndrome looks likely to have been caused by an illegal vaccine "booster" given by the Ministry of Defence to protect soldiers against biological weapons, according to the results of a new series of tests.

Scientists in the United States found that symptoms of the illness were the same for service personnel who received the injections whether or not they served in the Gulf.

The common factor for the 275,000 British and US veterans who are ill appears to be a substance called squalene, allegedly used in injections to add to their potency. Such an action would have been illegal. Squalene is not licensed for use on either side of the Atlantic because of potential side effects.

Pam Asa and her team at the Tulane medical school in Louisiana tested more than 300 former US military personnel who were given vaccinations to go to the Gulf: 95% tested positive for squalene antibodies.

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hokiewolf said:

cowboypack02 said:

The 'rona finally got me fellas.....

I'm quarantined for the next week
im with you brother, my symptoms have been mild so far though
I am there also. Like a sinus infection for me.
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I saw that the Soviet propagandists on MSNBC were recently on the air promoting a special healthcare tax on the unvaccinated. Canada has already announced such a tax, as discussed in this article which cheerleads the even more draconian measures worldwide to coerce and force people to take these injections.

I can see Commie Child Sniffer in Chief trying to mandate something like this with another illegal executive order.



"losing patience"??

Maybe the good people of the world are starting to "lose patience" with the fraudulently "elected" communist tyrants who think they have the right to rule over us.

Maybe the American people are losing patience with you, Beijing Joe.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
Daviewolf83
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I have been monitoring the increasing rate of daily hospital admissions in North Carolina and as of today's data, it is evident the rate of increase has begun to flatten out. The graph below is a logarithmic plot of the daily hospitalizations, since November 1. The Winter Wave began in late November in North Carolina and after Christmas, we began to see a significant increase in the rate of daily hospitalizations. Over the past few days, this rate has begun to slow and the trend is now flattening. In the past, this flattening has indicated a peak in 3 to 5 days. Based on this latest information, I do expect the current Winter Wave and daily hospitalizations to peak by the middle to later part of next week.

This is consistent with reports from other areas of the country, where the Winter Wave began a week or two earlier than it did in North Carolina. For example, reports over the past couple of days indicate cases and hospitalizations have peaked in NYC and Boston. I do expect other large cities to report similar trends over the next few days.


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https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/

Additionally; proof that the actual virus is within the contents of the JAB is to soon come. Stay tuned.
#Devolution #Expand Your Thinking #Eye of The Storm #TheGreatAwakening
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And now after the Dr. Malone interview that went viral comes the expected commie Establishment crackdown against Joe Rogan. They are trying to get Spotify to "take action" against Rogan, presumably to censor or outright ban him.



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In an open letter addressed to Spotify, 270 science and health professionals said the podcast was "broadcasting misinformation, particularly regarding the Covid-19 pandemic." The letter then asked Spotify to "take action against mass-misinformation events" on its platform. Notably, it didn't recommend any specific actions for the the streaming platform to take.

The letter specifically highlighted a December 31 episode featuring Dr. Robert Malone, a virologist who was recently banned from Twitter for spreading vaccine falsehoods.
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Here's a little tip...when there are calls for someone to be silenced and banned (eg, ban Joe Rogan from Spotify, ban Malone from Twitter), that should raise a GIGANTIC red flag in your mind. Because that means that the opponents of Rogan/Malone's argument can't defeat them using an appeal to facts, logic, or reason. Therefore, the only way to "defeat their argument" is prevent them from being able to make an argument to the masses -- ie, ban and forcibly silence them.

People aren't banned and silenced for "spreading misinformation" or falsehoods. They are banned and silenced because they speak the TRUTH.

"When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore."

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GuerrillaPack said:

And now after the Dr. Malone interview that went viral comes the expected commie Establishment crackdown against Joe Rogan. They are trying to get Spotify to "take action" against Rogan, presumably to censor or outright ban him.



Quote:

In an open letter addressed to Spotify, 270 science and health professionals said the podcast was "broadcasting misinformation, particularly regarding the Covid-19 pandemic." The letter then asked Spotify to "take action against mass-misinformation events" on its platform. Notably, it didn't recommend any specific actions for the the streaming platform to take.

The letter specifically highlighted a December 31 episode featuring Dr. Robert Malone, a virologist who was recently banned from Twitter for spreading vaccine falsehoods.



They're just getting Spotify and Rogan more listeners. More money for Spotify. I'm sure they love it. It's probably 270 people from Civ's apolitical AAP.
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In a world full of doctors, how can they not get more than 270 signatures?! It's exactly what Malone talks about with the hospitalists coming after him...further proves his point.
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Yeah it's digital
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