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I'm not surprised that funny numbers are coming out of Mecklenberg County whatsoever. In fact, I'd have been surprised otherwise.

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I'm just waiting for them to gin up the idea of a multi-million $$ field hospital again. (while many nurses, and likely doctors) remain furloughed and/or on reduced shifts.

Knightdale has all those deaths because of Wellington Rehab and Healthcare which had 81 cases and 14 deaths. Worst outbreak in Wake County. Also due to their lower population that are more susceptible to congregate outbreaks throwing of their stats. But either way.

Number of people in location per positive case detected:
Knightdale 85 (200 total cases identified)
Raleigh 216 (2176 total cases identified)
Cary 646 (268 total cases identified)

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6/16/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
45,853
NC Deaths
1154
Currently Hospitalized
829 <- 85% still stable since increased from 73% yesterday reporting
Completed Tests
651,421

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723 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
97 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+36 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

334 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
820 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

193 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+6)
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WRAL is at 1196* and NandO is at 1169 deaths

751 positive cases over 12,942 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.

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6/17/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
46,855
NC Deaths
1168
Currently Hospitalized
846 <- 86% reporting (was 829 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
667,422

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729 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

340 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
828 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1208* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1002 positive cases over 16,001 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Dates of deaths reported today:
5/22 - 1
5/31 - 1
6/2 - 1
6/13 -2
6/14 - 2
6/15 - 3
6/16 - 4

Don't know who the back log belongs to. I think the majority of the deaths today were reported out of Meck/Guilford. But since they are also the two hardest places, just as likely to be the current reports.

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6/18/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
48,188
NC Deaths
1175
Currently Hospitalized
857 <- 88% reporting (was 846 at 86% yesterday) still roughly stable. higher % report.
Completed Tests
693,678

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733 Deaths are now Congregate (+4)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

343 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
832 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+4)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1222* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1333 positive cases over 26,256 new tests. 5.1% positive rate.

7 deaths reported today occurred between 6/11 and 6/17

54% of the delta in the case ethnicity data (where available) were Hispanic.

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6/19/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
49,840
NC Deaths
1197
Currently Hospitalized
871 <- 91% reporting (was 857 at 88% yesterday) new high, but higher %. Roughly stable
Completed Tests
712,313

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745 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
105 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

347 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
850 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)

191 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
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WRAL is at 1235* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1652 positive cases over 18,638 new tests. 8.9% positive rate.

These hospitalizations need to go down. The only bright side is that the % of reporting hospitals has increased each day that the overall number has increased. The number is relatively stable but NEEDS to decline.

The case total is lower than last Friday, so not a new high. That is a positive we see a little case stabilization, maybe.

16 of the deaths reported today are from the last week. There was an adjustment and one death was removed from 5/27. One death reported today was as far back as 5/17, one additional on 5/31.

Deaths are still being driven by congregate facilities.

Of the cases with a reported ethnicity, over 50% of new cases are Hispanic.

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Millions of people were in the streets nationwide protesting & looting 2 weeks ago . Not a single peep from the media & politicians about corona . How stupid do these clowns think we are ?

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Agree...can't wait for Roy to make a state wide mask requirement.... I think the fool is digging his own political grave.

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So just to be clear... you think it is a BAD idea to require folks to wear a mask while we continue to reopen the economy? Even though every scientist on the damn planet says it's a GOOD idea. Just want to understand where you're coming from.

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Good luck enforcing this.

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Good luck enforcing this.

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They arent enforcing it. From the RaleighNC.gov site:

"Section 3. Implementation. The intent of this declaration is to encourage voluntary compliance with the requirements established herein by businesses and persons within the City of Raleigh. Law enforcement and other public safety and emergency management personnel are strongly encouraged to educate and encourage voluntary compliance with this order. "

Its the equivalent of a college professor giving a take home exam and saying its closed book

Lol.

Some good recommendations from Canada for school reopenings: https://www.sickkids.ca/PDFs/About-SickKids/81407-COVID19-Recommendations-for-School-Reopening-SickKids.pdf

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Millions of people were in the streets nationwide protesting & looting 2 weeks ago . Not a single peep from the media & politicians about corona . How stupid do these clowns think we are ?

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Agree...can't wait for Roy to make a state wide mask requirement.... I think the fool is digging his own political grave.

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So just to be clear... you think it is a BAD idea to require folks to wear a mask while we continue to reopen the economy? Even though every scientist on the damn planet says it's a GOOD idea. Just want to understand where you're coming from.

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He's coming from why didn't the Governor see fit to make such a requirement when the COVID-19 outbreak was at its height?

Such as in a) The initial "Stay At Home" order (ie. highest level of restrictions), or b) when RESTRICTIONS were first relaxed to Phase 1 standards on May 8 and or c) when we went into Phase 2 standards on May 22 (a decision that only he had the power to make)... when Cases/Tests ongoing percentages are STILL LOWER than they were WHEN HE REDUCED US TO PHASE 2 on May 22... and when both Deaths/ Cases and Deaths/Tests ongoing percentages have GONE DOWN 20 out of the last 22 days and 19 out of the last 22 days respectively... (*these are using the Governors OWN numbers by the way).

Yeah? Maybe THAT'S where he is coming from.

Those of us with eyes and a functioning brain and were actually paying attention saw exactly when the "masks" came out... even Biden jumped in ahead of Roy.

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Is there a justifiable reason for the state to not have a mask-required-in-public mandate?

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Everyone should be required to wear a mask and those who can't afford one, should have it provided.

This should've happened weeks ago.

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Completely agree. It's ridiculous that it hasn't happened. It's easy, cheap, and all upside from a health standpoint.

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Is there a justifiable reason for the state to not have a mask-required-in-public mandate?

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Everyone should be required to wear a mask and those who can't afford one, should have it provided.

This should've happened weeks ago.

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Completely agree. It's ridiculous that it hasn't happened. It's easy, cheap, and all upside from a health standpoint.

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Where does one find masks these days?

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Is there a justifiable reason for the state to not have a mask-required-in-public mandate?

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Everyone should be required to wear a mask and those who can't afford one, should have it provided.

This should've happened weeks ago.

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Completely agree. It's ridiculous that it hasn't happened. It's easy, cheap, and all upside from a health standpoint.

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Where does one find masks these days?

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I just walked thru one of the many Targets in Charlotte, and they had an endcap filled with the disposable masks, right next to an endcap where you can get a little bottle of hand sanitizer.
Used to be difficult, but I think they are out there more now

There are lots of online resources for patterns and no-sew options. When Microsoft finishes my update (if it ever does) I can post some links if you want. Target had them recently, 2-packs for $4, but theirs are very thin. I'd definitely want to insert a filter in those. You can buy NC State masks from Wolfpack Outfitters, and there are lots available on Etsy. The ones with exhale valves are not what you want.

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6/16/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
45,853
NC Deaths
1154
Currently Hospitalized
829 <- 85% still stable since increased from 73% yesterday reporting
Completed Tests
651,421

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723 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
97 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+36 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

334 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
820 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

193 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+6)
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WRAL is at 1196* and NandO is at 1169 deaths

751 positive cases over 12,942 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.

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6/17/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
46,855
NC Deaths
1168
Currently Hospitalized
846 <- 86% reporting (was 829 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
667,422

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729 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

340 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
828 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1208* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1002 positive cases over 16,001 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Dates of deaths reported today:
5/22 - 1
5/31 - 1
6/2 - 1
6/13 -2
6/14 - 2
6/15 - 3
6/16 - 4

Don't know who the back log belongs to. I think the majority of the deaths today were reported out of Meck/Guilford. But since they are also the two hardest places, just as likely to be the current reports.

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6/18/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
48,188
NC Deaths
1175
Currently Hospitalized
857 <- 88% reporting (was 846 at 86% yesterday) still roughly stable. higher % report.
Completed Tests
693,678

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733 Deaths are now Congregate (+4)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

343 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
832 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+4)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1222* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1333 positive cases over 26,256 new tests. 5.1% positive rate.

7 deaths reported today occurred between 6/11 and 6/17

54% of the delta in the case ethnicity data (where available) were Hispanic.

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6/19/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
49,840
NC Deaths
1197
Currently Hospitalized
871 <- 91% reporting (was 857 at 88% yesterday) new high, but higher %. Roughly stable
Completed Tests
712,313

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745 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
105 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

347 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
850 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)

191 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
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WRAL is at 1235* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1652 positive cases over 18,638 new tests. 8.9% positive rate.

These hospitalizations need to go down. The only bright side is that the % of reporting hospitals has increased each day that the overall number has increased. The number is relatively stable but NEEDS to decline.

The case total is lower than last Friday, so not a new high. That is a positive we see a little case stabilization, maybe.

16 of the deaths reported today are from the last week. There was an adjustment and one death was removed from 5/27. One death reported today was as far back as 5/17, one additional on 5/31.

Deaths are still being driven by congregate facilities.

Of the cases with a reported ethnicity, over 50% of new cases are Hispanic.

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6/20/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
51389
NC Deaths
1212
Currently Hospitalized
883 <- 87% reporting (was 871 at 91% yesterday) new high.
Completed Tests
731,341

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749 Deaths are now Congregate (+4)
106 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+15 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

357 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
855 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+5)

192 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
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WRAL is at 1262* deaths (Questionable sourcing. Doesn't make corrections when numbers adjusted)
NandO is at 1197 deaths (may be no longer keeping separate count from DHHS)

1549 positive cases over 19028 new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Hospitalizations creeping up. Both ICU and overall are higher. Still need to turn that corner. First day in a while not driven by congregate deaths. Most of the ICU increases are coming out of EHPC (Eastern NC) and MHPC (Meck). Most other groups are relatively stable.

Took another look at ICU utilization and the spike wasn't as bad as I thought. I was comparing an 88% reporting day to a 73% reporting day. When I went back to the last 80+% day I had data for, just over a week ago, things looked a lot more stable.

Certainly not a decrease, but will take what I can get.

Remember each day has a varying reporting number. 6/8, 6/14, and 6/15 were all below 80%. 6/10 and 6/18 were over 80% reporting. Doesn't look too too bad as far as an increase, these are all serious cases.

I have felt this is the case for awhile now. This is all about November at this point.

One of our swim coaches at State is getting over it now. Had a "mild case" but couldn't eat, couldn't smell, couldn't take care of himself, and lost 18 pounds in 8 days. His posts are now on social media and his story is now on swim swam so I felt comfortable posting this now. He offers a good perspective if you're interested.

Glad to hear he's improving. That had to be scary to be so sick.

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6/16/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
45,853
NC Deaths
1154
Currently Hospitalized
829 <- 85% still stable since increased from 73% yesterday reporting
Completed Tests
651,421

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723 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
97 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+7)
+36 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

334 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
820 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+24)

193 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+6)
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WRAL is at 1196* and NandO is at 1169 deaths

751 positive cases over 12,942 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.

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6/17/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
46,855
NC Deaths
1168
Currently Hospitalized
846 <- 86% reporting (was 829 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
667,422

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729 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

340 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
828 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1208* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1002 positive cases over 16,001 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.

Dates of deaths reported today:
5/22 - 1
5/31 - 1
6/2 - 1
6/13 -2
6/14 - 2
6/15 - 3
6/16 - 4

Don't know who the back log belongs to. I think the majority of the deaths today were reported out of Meck/Guilford. But since they are also the two hardest places, just as likely to be the current reports.

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6/18/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
48,188
NC Deaths
1175
Currently Hospitalized
857 <- 88% reporting (was 846 at 86% yesterday) still roughly stable. higher % report.
Completed Tests
693,678

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733 Deaths are now Congregate (+4)
99 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+0)
+14 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

343 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
832 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+4)

195 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
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WRAL is at 1222* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1333 positive cases over 26,256 new tests. 5.1% positive rate.

7 deaths reported today occurred between 6/11 and 6/17

54% of the delta in the case ethnicity data (where available) were Hispanic.

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6/19/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
49,840
NC Deaths
1197
Currently Hospitalized
871 <- 91% reporting (was 857 at 88% yesterday) new high, but higher %. Roughly stable
Completed Tests
712,313

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745 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
105 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

347 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
850 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)

191 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
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WRAL is at 1235* and NandO is at 1181 deaths

1652 positive cases over 18,638 new tests. 8.9% positive rate.

These hospitalizations need to go down. The only bright side is that the % of reporting hospitals has increased each day that the overall number has increased. The number is relatively stable but NEEDS to decline.

The case total is lower than last Friday, so not a new high. That is a positive we see a little case stabilization, maybe.

16 of the deaths reported today are from the last week. There was an adjustment and one death was removed from 5/27. One death reported today was as far back as 5/17, one additional on 5/31.

Deaths are still being driven by congregate facilities.

Of the cases with a reported ethnicity, over 50% of new cases are Hispanic.

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6/20/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
51389
NC Deaths
1212
Currently Hospitalized
883 <- 87% reporting (was 871 at 91% yesterday) new high.
Completed Tests
731,341

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749 Deaths are now Congregate (+4)
106 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+15 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

357 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
855 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+5)

192 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
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WRAL is at 1262* deaths (Questionable sourcing. Doesn't make corrections when numbers adjusted)
NandO is at 1197 deaths (may be no longer keeping separate count from DHHS)

1549 positive cases over 19028 new tests. 8.1% positive rate.

Hospitalizations creeping up. Both ICU and overall are higher. Still need to turn that corner. First day in a while not driven by congregate deaths. Most of the ICU increases are coming out of EHPC (Eastern NC) and MHPC (Meck). Most other groups are relatively stable.

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6/21/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 12:00pm)

NC Cases
52801
NC Deaths
1220
Currently Hospitalized
845<- 74% reporting (was 883 at 87% yesterday) Lower reporting %. Stable/Small increase
Completed Tests
745,775


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752 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
108 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

360 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
860 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+5)

190 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-2)
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WRAL is at 1269* deaths (Questionable sourcing. Doesn't make corrections when numbers adjusted)
NandO is at 1197 deaths (may be no longer keeping separate count from DHHS)

1412 positive cases over 14434 new tests. 9.8% positive rate.

3 day case rate reported last 6/12-6/14 = 4638, 6/19-621 = 4613. Cases stable week over week.

60% of new cases with ethnicity reported today are Hispanic. Need to keep focusing resources there to help.

100% agree. Science aside, I'd bet it reduces exposure risk by half or more.

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I didn't see that many masks in public personally. I think effort or diligence or compliance (or whatever term makes you feel better) with masking would make a difference.

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Everyone was locked down for months. Heard daily "15 to stop the spread" blah blah blah. Nothing changed. It kept spreading just like it will with mask being worn

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Not like it is now.

Are you actually arguing we should not need to wear masks?

You've been griping for months to reopen. We have, in many cases. And we should expect some uptick in rates when doing so.
But it isn't asking you, or anyone else, too much to put a mask on so we don't, while going thru opening, putting us back into purgatory?

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Actually, I was onboard and supported the shutdown for months. I responded to the never gonna happen comment. We tried all this shut down, wear masks, social distance, etc,etc, and the virus us still spreading. It ain't worked but if you wanna wear a mask, have at it. You ain't stopping this just like you ain't stopping the flu.