packgrad said:
The majority of Americans approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus according to this poll.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/corner/poll-majority-approves-of-trumps-handling-of-coronavirus-pandemic/amp/
packgrad said:
I read somewhere that yesterday we had less deaths than the day before from the coronavirus. You'd think it would be easy to find that information if you google it. It isn't.
Everpack said:packgrad said:
I read somewhere that yesterday we had less deaths than the day before from the coronavirus. You'd think it would be easy to find that information if you google it. It isn't.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
Put that in your browser and keep a tab open. Pretty fascinating to watch throughout the day. The next couple of days are going to be telling. We're on pace again today for the total daily deaths to be flat. As I mentioned earlier, as long as you don't live in NYC, this is looking like a non-event for the rest of the country.
Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
And so-called "experts" are never wrong? That "2.2 million death" prediction is based on a flawed (or deliberately misleading) analysis/calculation.Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
PackBacker07 said:82TxPackFan said:I agree that Cuomo has done a great job of handling his conferences. To be fair though, he doesn't have a group of reporters screaming at him during the Q&A and asking questions that have nothing to do with the Coronavirus situation.RunsWithWolves26 said:
Obviously you are a diehard trump guy and that is perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with that. With that said, trump hasn't handled the press conferences well in some situations. In others, I feel like he has done a pretty good job. Can't believe I am saying this, but if he held his press conferences as well as the governor of NY has held his, a lot more people would feel better about how things are being done. Cuomo, a guy I've never really liked, IMO, has handled his press conferences extremely professionally and well.
I do believe it would be better if Pence would handle the press conferences, but then certain members of the press would criticize Potus for not being engaged on the crisis.
Cuomo is not POTUS. It comes with the territory. What POTUS said yesterday in response to a softball question was grotesque.
Pence has been fine up there, but we need to hear more from Fauci.
RunsWithWolves26 said:
Trump just announced that the maleria drug along with a zpack will be delivered to NY to test how it works. Coumo has been asking for it and I believe the number was 10,000 of them to be sent. That would be a game changer if the results show as positive a result as they have in smaller test.
Absolutely agree!wilmwolf80 said:
In general, I just am not a fan of how the media operates, and I'm not just taking about politics. It seems to me that reporters have a story they want to write, based on their own personal convictions, and will ask however many questions in however many ways they need to until they get an answer that fits their preconceived idea. I just want the truth, whether that's the story you want to write, whether you agree with it personally or not, just provide the facts. If I want opinions, I'll go to social media, but if you want to be legitimate news, stick to the facts. Everyone wants to break a story and get their fifteen seconds of fame before the masses forget about it and move to the next thing. The initial reporting on the Kobe Bryant thing was disgusting with supposed reputable news sources just throwing **** out there. With this thing, I don't care if you think the President didn't handle it correctly, write that op-ed after it's all over, right now people need facts with no agenda.
packgrad said:Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
When we ultimately have not even 1/4 of their predicted deaths can we stop calling them experts?
PackBacker07 said:packgrad said:Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
When we ultimately have not even 1/4 of their predicted deaths can we stop calling them experts?
IMO, general rule of thumb is to listen to folks who have dedicated their lives to studying infectious disease over politicians, et al when it comes to pandemics.
Ground_Chuck said:
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
packgrad said:PackBacker07 said:packgrad said:Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
When we ultimately have not even 1/4 of their predicted deaths can we stop calling them experts?
IMO, general rule of thumb is to listen to folks who have dedicated their lives to studying infectious disease over politicians, et al when it comes to pandemics.
You're welcome to do that. The statistics wouldn't support you doing that in this scenario, but go right ahead.
PackBacker07 said:Ground_Chuck said:
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
This is how I feel. It's not just deaths, as everyone here is harping on. In some of our largest cities hospitals are already close to maxing out and quite a few are already shockingly short on supplies. The CDC sent notes to some locations to use bandanas as masks. In America! This has the potential to dangerously overload our healthcare system.
Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
PackBacker07 said:packgrad said:PackBacker07 said:packgrad said:Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
When we ultimately have not even 1/4 of their predicted deaths can we stop calling them experts?
IMO, general rule of thumb is to listen to folks who have dedicated their lives to studying infectious disease over politicians, et al when it comes to pandemics.
You're welcome to do that. The statistics wouldn't support you doing that in this scenario, but go right ahead.
To confirm, you believe we should not listen to infectious diseases doctors in this pandemic? If you are confirming, who should we listen to?
PossumJenkins said:
I would be really interested to know the projections from epidemiologists related to SARS, MERS, H1N1 etc and then what the actual outcomes were.
82TxPackFan said:Absolutely agree!wilmwolf80 said:
In general, I just am not a fan of how the media operates, and I'm not just taking about politics. It seems to me that reporters have a story they want to write, based on their own personal convictions, and will ask however many questions in however many ways they need to until they get an answer that fits their preconceived idea. I just want the truth, whether that's the story you want to write, whether you agree with it personally or not, just provide the facts. If I want opinions, I'll go to social media, but if you want to be legitimate news, stick to the facts. Everyone wants to break a story and get their fifteen seconds of fame before the masses forget about it and move to the next thing. The initial reporting on the Kobe Bryant thing was disgusting with supposed reputable news sources just throwing **** out there. With this thing, I don't care if you think the President didn't handle it correctly, write that op-ed after it's all over, right now people need facts with no agenda.
RunsWithWolves26 said:Ground_Chuck said:
Pandemic experts that predicted 2.2 million American deaths is the reason for policy changes at the federal level. It's not because of a ticker on CNN.
Nation is going to be locked downed next week, you guys really think this president would do that because of what the media is saying?
Some of you seem completely in denial over how serious this pandemic has become.
If you truly believe that many Americans will die from this, then that's your choice. No way do I believe anything to that happens. You do realize that would mean hundreds of millions would die worldwide based on population? That number makes zero sense at all. We are at 250 roughly deaths. You actually believe that number is going to go up 8,800 times?
Edut to add. Medical experts are expecting between 50000-150000 to be infected by this virus. Makes that 2.2 million number even more unreal. Not to mention, we are at a 1.3% death rate so far. That would mean almost the entire population would have to get it to equal those numbers
