Great context....those points make great sense. I've heard same from some of my team who live/work in India.IseWolf22 said:Well the Asian cultural standard of wearing masks early and often certainly helped. The general awareness of germs is much higher in the average person. When I went to Hong Kong and SE Asia it seemed over the top, but in these situations it helps.Packchem91 said:According to this article, NYC isn't even in the top 50 in the world in pop density.wilmwolf80 said:
Well, without looking them all up, NYC population density is higher than Tokyo, Hong Kong, and Mexico City. It is also perhaps the most culturally diverse pace in the world. I think it is hard to compare across different countries, because different countries and cultures are much more likely to be easily controlled than a diverse, free population in the US. I could also point to the fact that NYC wouldn't impose travel restrictions, and actually promoted large gatherings of people when it was already becoming clear that this was going to be a big deal.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/07/11/the-50-most-densely-populated-cities-in-the-world/39664259/
Now, I personally think your comment that I boldened is one of the major contributors in NYC and the US in general -- the "land of the free" truly is a cultural phenomenon. And extends to not only our daily activities but also to travel. Two related keys I wonder about:
1) do other major cities, at least outside Europe, have the press freedom / access to really have valid case and death numbers that is had in the US?
2) do ingress and egress travel occur in other cities to the degree they did in NYC?
Another major factor in outbreaks is average population age. Countries with more young people are seeing a much higher percentage of carriers as asymptomatic. Then you couple that with the fact that the poorer nations are often doing much worse at testing than we are. My colleagues in Hyderabad claim the Indian numbers being reported by the government have no bearing on reality. It's impossible to get a test and if you're just coughing and feverish, most will avoid a hospital or Dr. due to cost. I've seen the combo of young population and poor testing to cited as one of the biggest reasons we arent seeing huge outbreaks in Africa.
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Also, we have varying degrees of inaccuracy and doubt at our own numbers, so it's really hard to treat numbers from certain other parts of the world as gospel at this point.
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5/8/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/7/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/6/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/5/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/4/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/3/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:4/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:
4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
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Greensboro's report is definitely wrong, based on past media reporting. They have had congregate deaths. I posted on this a couple of weeks ago. I am not sure why it has not been fixed. Also, based on my tracking, I show all 20 new cases yesterday as being from Congregate facilities, but I am not keeping track of the unassigned numbers and adjusting them. This is likely where the difference comes from between my numbers and yours. The important part is over 60% of deaths in NC are from Congregate facilities and the vast majority of those are from nursing homes.Wayland said:5/8/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/7/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/6/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/5/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/4/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/3/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:4/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:
4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
The good news is the number of daily cases is increasing, but the percentage of positive tests is remaining fairly flat at 8%. This is a direct reflection of an increase in testing. Additionally, the trend for daily new deaths is flat over the past several days, with most deaths still from Congregate facilities. As to deaths, I am still tracking actual deaths versus the various IHME model versions. As of now, we are tracking just below the mean predicted total deaths for the most recent update. I am also tracking case reporting by specimen date to try and determine the lag in reporting of positive cases. Right now, it appears the majority of the lag spans 5-7 days. There are minor adjustments beyond those days, but the largest adjustments are in the 5-7 days prior.
I still don't know how we aren't going to just slow burn at 10-20 deaths a day until this is done since we never did spike That is why I think we are going to start to creep up in deaths. This is endemic and will continue to sneak into facilities where the population is highly susceptible.
I think I grossly underestimated the lag time in some of these deaths and the length of the burn. Even in places that did hit that spike the burn is going to last a while.
All in all though, NC (so far) has done a half decent job with regards to the overall numbers, and I need to remind myself of that sometimes.
I think I grossly underestimated the lag time in some of these deaths and the length of the burn. Even in places that did hit that spike the burn is going to last a while.
All in all though, NC (so far) has done a half decent job with regards to the overall numbers, and I need to remind myself of that sometimes.
yeah, I alluded to that; I don't think even the Euro cities have as much leaders-to-media openness as across the US in general and certainly as in NY. I am sure there are loads of under-reported deaths even outside CHN, Taiwan, Russia and India.wilmwolf80 said:
Also, we have varying degrees of inaccuracy and doubt at our own numbers, so it's really hard to treat numbers from certain other parts of the world as gospel at this point.
Maybe those countries should start telling their state leaders they're going to pay more for coronavirus deaths as well. Cuomo is going to cash in.
CDC's COVIDview website has been updated for the week ending May 2.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Results starting to come in for NC antibody study.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/first-results-in-for-nc-coronavirus-antibody-study/19090374/
I know super preliminary, but lets assume that the 2.2% is close for Guilford County. That is about 10,000 people and they found about 500 through regular testing.
Sure the numbers seems small, but that means the actual number of people who have CLEARED COVID is 20x what they actually found. Even if only 10x, still shows how little value the positive cases identified is.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/first-results-in-for-nc-coronavirus-antibody-study/19090374/
I know super preliminary, but lets assume that the 2.2% is close for Guilford County. That is about 10,000 people and they found about 500 through regular testing.
Sure the numbers seems small, but that means the actual number of people who have CLEARED COVID is 20x what they actually found. Even if only 10x, still shows how little value the positive cases identified is.
But, but, but, CNN keeps running headlines saying "states open as cases spike", so surely they aren't avoiding data to mislead are they?Wayland said:
Results starting to come in for NC antibody study.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/first-results-in-for-nc-coronavirus-antibody-study/19090374/
I know super preliminary, but lets assume that the 2.2% is close for Guilford County. That is about 10,000 people and they found about 500 through regular testing.
Sure the numbers seems small, but that means the actual number of people who have CLEARED COVID is 20x what they actually found. Even if only 10x, still shows how little value the positive cases identified is.
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If they say anything about cases increasing without also discussing number of tests run and percent positive, they are either being:Packchem91 said:But, but, but, CNN keeps running headlines saying "states open as cases spike", so surely they aren't avoiding data to mislead are they?Wayland said:
Results starting to come in for NC antibody study.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/first-results-in-for-nc-coronavirus-antibody-study/19090374/
I know super preliminary, but lets assume that the 2.2% is close for Guilford County. That is about 10,000 people and they found about 500 through regular testing.
Sure the numbers seems small, but that means the actual number of people who have CLEARED COVID is 20x what they actually found. Even if only 10x, still shows how little value the positive cases identified is.
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This percentage would be about half of the lower part of the range found in the Miami anti-body study a couple of weeks ago. It estimated a range of 4.4% to 7.9%. A finding of 2.2% seems reasonable to me, given the low number of deaths NC has experienced in comparison to other states. I would expect Charlotte to be a little higher, given the higher number of cases and deaths compared to the rest of the state.Wayland said:
Results starting to come in for NC antibody study.
https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/first-results-in-for-nc-coronavirus-antibody-study/19090374/
I know super preliminary, but lets assume that the 2.2% is close for Guilford County. That is about 10,000 people and they found about 500 through regular testing.
Sure the numbers seems small, but that means the actual number of people who have CLEARED COVID is 20x what they actually found. Even if only 10x, still shows how little value the positive cases identified is.
The researchers pointed out that this study is weighted to include more healthcare workers, due to their higher risk of catching the virus. Based on the information on the anti-body testing in NY that targeted healthcare workers, the results could be biased to find more people negative for the anti-virus. I will explain in this way. When NY conducted their anti-body test on healthcare workers and first-responders, they found the percentage of people tested to have anti-bodies was lower than the anti-body testing of the general public. The conclusion was the PPE and the safeguards exercised by the healthcare workers was effective in protecting them from the virus. If this is the case, I would expect an anti-body test that includes more healthcare workers could possibly be biased to under-count the number of people who have had the virus.
I would be curious to see results of testing in some of the communities where large food processing operations are located.
This is from the UK perspective, but I think a lot of the same points hold true.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ten-reasons-to-end-the-lockdown-now
Very good, thanks for sharing. Hit on all the major points we've discussed here, and that reasonable people can mostly agree with.
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5/9/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/8/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/7/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/6/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/5/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/4/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/3/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:4/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:
4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
NC Cases*
14360
NC Deaths**
544
Currently Hospitalized
513
Completed Tests
186,362
336 Deaths are now Congregate (+13 since yesterday)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+17 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
161 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
384 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
106 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
WRAL is at 557 (+2) and NandO is at 545 deaths
492 positive cases over 7749 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.
Again notice only 1 confirmed not in congregate setting.
If the site is right, today is the first day of DECLINE in total number of congregate facilities affected. That means facilities are starting to clear cases.
Interesting video discussing the rate of infection being solely tied to the availability of testing.
https://www.wfae.org/post/mecklenburg-projects-surge-covid-model-creator-says-not-appropriate-use-model-now#stream/0
The model Meck County has been using that kept pushing out the surge date, has been used incorrectly. The incompetence of our government, on every level, has been on full display these past couple months.
The model Meck County has been using that kept pushing out the surge date, has been used incorrectly. The incompetence of our government, on every level, has been on full display these past couple months.
kmb717 said:
https://www.wfae.org/post/mecklenburg-projects-surge-covid-model-creator-says-not-appropriate-use-model-now#stream/0
The model Meck County has been using that kept pushing out the surge date, has been used incorrectly. The incompetence of our government, on every level, has been on full display these past couple months.
ARGHGFHEGHRGEHREGHRGEHR. I appreciate a reporter finally asking questions, when a month ago I was PLEADING to every reporter who was reporting on this to PLEASE reach out to CHIME and to ask Meck County if they had done the same.
All I got back was 'models are imperfect' and 'Well, Mecklenburg County added an FAQ". It was so obvious that they were misusing the model and it took a ******* month for anyone to start to call them on it. Or at least to ask a question. I am so mad right now.
Seriously, I shouldn't be, but I am almost in tears of frustration over this. I was so infuriated for so long over this model being used so OBVIOUSLY incorrectly and nothing was done. Never before this had I reached out to so many media people begging them to just ask Meck if they had talked to CHIME and showing them how easily it could be manipulated. That it shouldn't be used by laymen without understanding.
Policy was being made and fear being spread over bull**** and all any media member had to do was make one call.
Wayland said:kmb717 said:
https://www.wfae.org/post/mecklenburg-projects-surge-covid-model-creator-says-not-appropriate-use-model-now#stream/0
The model Meck County has been using that kept pushing out the surge date, has been used incorrectly. The incompetence of our government, on every level, has been on full display these past couple months.
ARGHGFHEGHRGEHREGHRGEHR. I appreciate a reporter finally asking questions, when a month ago I was PLEADING to every reporter who was reporting on this to PLEASE reach out to CHIME and to ask Meck County if they had done the same.
All I got back was 'models are imperfect' and 'Well, Mecklenburg County added an FAQ". It was so obvious that they were misusing the model and it took a ******* month for anyone to start to call them on it. Or at least to ask a question. I am so mad right now.
Seriously, I shouldn't be, but I am almost in tears of frustration over this. I was so infuriated for so long over this model being used so OBVIOUSLY incorrectly and nothing was done. Never before this had I reached out to so many media people begging them to just ask Meck if they had talked to CHIME and showing them how easily it could be manipulated. That it shouldn't be used by laymen without understanding.
Policy was being made and fear being spread over bull**** and all any media member had to do was make one call.
Gotta stick with the script of fear mongering. Let's see if the people bow down in December when it comes back and allows the government and media to take away our right as well as dictate and control our lives.
Describing it accurately would have taken some of the fear off the plate back then. Of course, it also would have taken some viewers/readers away.Wayland said:kmb717 said:
https://www.wfae.org/post/mecklenburg-projects-surge-covid-model-creator-says-not-appropriate-use-model-now#stream/0
The model Meck County has been using that kept pushing out the surge date, has been used incorrectly. The incompetence of our government, on every level, has been on full display these past couple months.
ARGHGFHEGHRGEHREGHRGEHR. I appreciate a reporter finally asking questions, when a month ago I was PLEADING to every reporter who was reporting on this to PLEASE reach out to CHIME and to ask Meck County if they had done the same.
All I got back was 'models are imperfect' and 'Well, Mecklenburg County added an FAQ". It was so obvious that they were misusing the model and it took a ******* month for anyone to start to call them on it. Or at least to ask a question. I am so mad right now.
Seriously, I shouldn't be, but I am almost in tears of frustration over this. I was so infuriated for so long over this model being used so OBVIOUSLY incorrectly and nothing was done. Never before this had I reached out to so many media people begging them to just ask Meck if they had talked to CHIME and showing them how easily it could be manipulated. That it shouldn't be used by laymen without understanding.
Policy was being made and fear being spread over bull**** and all any media member had to do was make one call.
I know the nursing home deaths have been a known issue to the folks on this forum for a while, but it looks like that's finally starting to reveal itself nationwide as the major problem that it is, or has been. Also, according to the jobs report that came out yesterday, nursing homes laid off 113,100 people in the month of April. What an absolute cluster **** this has become.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ETm51GayRjlnoaRVtUOWfkolEeAQZ-zPhXkCbVe4_ik/htmlview
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ETm51GayRjlnoaRVtUOWfkolEeAQZ-zPhXkCbVe4_ik/htmlview
5/9/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/9/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/8/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/7/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/6/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/5/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/4/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/3/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:4/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:
4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
NC Cases*
14360
NC Deaths**
544
Currently Hospitalized
513
Completed Tests
186,362
336 Deaths are now Congregate (+13 since yesterday)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+17 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
161 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
383 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
106 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
WRAL is at 557 (+2) and NandO is at 545 deaths
492 positive cases over 7749 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.
Again notice only 1 confirmed not in congregate setting.
If the site is right, today is the first day of DECLINE in total number of congregate facilities affected. That means facilities are starting to clear cases.
NC Cases*
14764
NC Deaths**
547
Currently Hospitalized
442
Completed Tests
192,135
339 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+3 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
162 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
385 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)
109 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 562 (+2) and NandO is at 561 deaths
404 positive cases over 5773 new tests. 7.0% positive rate.
Weird reporting today. Hospitalized likely low due to lower hospital reporting percentage. DHHS is becoming like Sweden with this weekend lag (15 behind this morning's media numbers). I guess they don't verify on weekends.
All these nursing home corporations are going to be getting hit with major lawsuits in the future by the families of lost loved ones. A lot of nursing homes may be getting shut down in the near future as a result of this mess.
We heard this weekend that nursing homes had laid off over 100,000 workers in the month of April.
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I understand in NY, families will not be allowed to sue if a patient dies from Covid. My son has a teammate whose grandmother passed away from Covid. She became infected while living in a nursing home and passed away in a hospital, after her daughter got her out of the nursing home. They have contacted lawyer and have been told it will be difficult to sue, given the orders issued by the state of NY.Steve Videtich said:
All these nursing home corporations are going to be getting hit with major lawsuits in the future by the families of lost loved ones. A lot of nursing homes may be getting shut down in the near future as a result of this mess.
It will be interesting to see how this case and others progress.
Daviewolf83 said:I understand in NY, families will not be allowed to sue if a patient dies from Covid. My son has a teammate whose grandmother passed away from Covid. She became infected while living in a nursing home and passed away in a hospital, after her daughter got her out of the nursing home. They have contacted lawyer and have been told it will be difficult to sue, given the orders issued by the state of NY.Steve Videtich said:
All these nursing home corporations are going to be getting hit with major lawsuits in the future by the families of lost loved ones. A lot of nursing homes may be getting shut down in the near future as a result of this mess.
It will be interesting to see how this case and others progress.
Interesting for sure. But, if that many employees have been laid off, I'd imagine there has to be something for not providing adequate care and protection. These nursing homes are fleecing families for supposed care. There has to be protection for the residents. I would equate to something similar to malpractice in a hospital.
It'll be interesting to keep an eye on it!
5/11/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/10/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/9/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/8/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/7/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/6/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/5/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/4/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/3/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/2/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:5/1/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:4/30/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)Wayland said:
4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
NC Cases*
14360
NC Deaths**
544
Currently Hospitalized
513
Completed Tests
186,362
336 Deaths are now Congregate (+13 since yesterday)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+17 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
161 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
383 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
106 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
WRAL is at 557 (+2) and NandO is at 545 deaths
492 positive cases over 7749 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.
Again notice only 1 confirmed not in congregate setting.
If the site is right, today is the first day of DECLINE in total number of congregate facilities affected. That means facilities are starting to clear cases.
NC Cases*
14764
NC Deaths**
547
Currently Hospitalized
442
Completed Tests
192,135
339 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+3 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
162 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
385 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)
109 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 562 (+2) and NandO is at 561 deaths
404 positive cases over 5773 new tests. 7.0% positive rate.
Weird reporting today. Hospitalized likely low due to lower hospital reporting percentage. DHHS is becoming like Sweden with this weekend lag (15 behind this morning's media numbers). I guess they don't verify on weekends.
NC Cases*
15045
NC Deaths**
550
Currently Hospitalized
464
Completed Tests
195,865
339 Deaths are now Congregate (+0)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+3 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
164 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
386 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+1)
109 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
WRAL is at 564 (+2) and NandO is at 567 deaths
282 positive cases over 3730 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
Still a lot of weekend lag. I guess verification of congregate can't take place on the weekend. Tomorrow should see a good sized bump since media is already 15+ deaths ahead before their daily boost.
Rapidly approaching 2x congregate care vs. general population.
Wayland, Davie or anyone else...has anyone seen or looked into infection rates in GA now that's it's been a little over two weeks since opening back up? I'm sure every media report will just say "cases are rising" without mentioning increased testing, so didn't know if anyone had really looked into the numbers?
I haven't really followed them closely or what their test % looks like. Here is their state site, will see what happens with lag data, but doesn't look awful (trend wise)
https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report
So sick of Cuomo puffing his chest out like NY did anything other than get the most people in the country killed. I am not blaming the death rate in NYC wholly on him, but let's not pretend NY did anything special. The reason they are on the back side of the curve is the same reason France, UK, Spain, Italy are on the backside. They had a ****-ton of people die and hit some level of natural viral exhaustion as much as their lockdown did a damn thing.
But every conference it is "Look NYC is going down and the rest of the U.S. sucks without us." FU dude, NYC metro is like 40% of the US death. You did nothing extrodinary.
https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report
So sick of Cuomo puffing his chest out like NY did anything other than get the most people in the country killed. I am not blaming the death rate in NYC wholly on him, but let's not pretend NY did anything special. The reason they are on the back side of the curve is the same reason France, UK, Spain, Italy are on the backside. They had a ****-ton of people die and hit some level of natural viral exhaustion as much as their lockdown did a damn thing.
But every conference it is "Look NYC is going down and the rest of the U.S. sucks without us." FU dude, NYC metro is like 40% of the US death. You did nothing extrodinary.
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I haven't really followed them closely or what their test % looks like. Here is their state site, will see what happens with lag data, but doesn't look awful (trend wise)
https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report
So sick of Cuomo puffing his chest out like NY did anything other than get the most people in the country killed. I am not blaming the death rate in NYC wholly on him, but let's not pretend NY did anything special. The reason they are on the back side of the curve is the same reason France, UK, Spain, Italy are on the backside. They had a ****-ton of people die and hit some level of natural viral exhaustion as much as their lockdown did a damn thing.
But every conference it is "Look NYC is going down and the rest of the U.S. sucks without us." FU dude, NYC metro is like 40% of the US death. You did nothing extrodinary.
1. Restrictions on large gatherings issued on March 12
2. Schools closed March 18
3. Stay-at-home/Non-essential business closure on March 22.
4. March 24, Florida's governor said anyone traveling from NY must self-quarantine.
5. March 28, NY Governor Cuomo ripped President Trump's suggestion that he might institute a travel ban on NY. Governor Cuomo said, "I don't believe that any federal administration could be serious about physical lockdowns on parts of states across this country," Cuomo said on CNN. "I don't believe it's legal. It would be economic chaos." President Trump later backed down and did not issue a travel ban on NY, NJ, or Conn.
We now know from the analysis that most of the virus' spread throughout the US and particularly the East Coast, was seeded out of NY. Some of this was travel from Europe that passed through NY, but it also included travel originating from NY and traveling to other states, particularly to South Florida.
NC is adding estimated recovered to DHHS site today. Estimate recovered is just over 9000, leaving around 6000 active tested positves. They will post this weekly on Mondays.
https://files.nc.gov/ncdhhs/documents/files/covid-19/Weekly-COVID19-Patients-Presumed-to-be-Recovered.pdf
Quote:
North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services (NCDHHS) estimates a median time to recovery of 14 days from the date of specimen collection for non-fatal COVID-19 cases who were not hospitalized, or if hospitalization status is unknown. The estimated median recovery time is 28 days from the date of specimen collection for hospitalized non-fatal COVID-19 cases. Estimates are used since patient-specific data on the actual time to resolution of all symptoms are not available for all COVID-19 cases in North Carolina
https://files.nc.gov/ncdhhs/documents/files/covid-19/Weekly-COVID19-Patients-Presumed-to-be-Recovered.pdf
It's been in Ohio since January. It was here for months before we locked down. What a waste of time.
https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290
https://www.wlwt.com/article/antibody-testing-reveals-covid-19-has-been-in-ohio-since-january-health-officials-say/32438290
Interesting info from DHHS:
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4/29/2020 Morning DHHS update (as of 11:00am)
NC Cases*
9948
NC Deaths**
354
Currently Hospitalized
551 <- New High
Completed Tests
118,440
196 Deaths are now Congregate (+8 since yesterday)
34 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+12 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+9 Not GenPop, +3 GenPop)
124 Deaths assumed General Population (+3)
230 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+9)
86 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 366 (+2) and NandO is at 366 deaths
380 positive cases over 5688 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.
Good low positive daily rate. Likely less congregate outbreaks represented.
Spike in hospitalizations. Would like to see a breakdown of ICU/non-ICU here.
DHHS still lagging media on deaths. WRAL and NandO had those totals late last night, again lag is likely due to trying to confirm congregate or not.
149 of the new cases came from congregate facilities.
Wake County is allowing their separate Stay at Home order to expire, and will continue under the state's order.
NC Cases*
10509
NC Deaths**
378
Currently Hospitalized
546
Completed Tests
128,036
212 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+24 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+19 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
129 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
249 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+19)
87 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 386 (+2) and NandO is at 385 deaths
561 positive cases over 9596 new tests. 5.8% positive rate.
NC Cases*
10,923
NC Deaths**
399
Currently Hospitalized
547
Completed Tests
133,832
229 Deaths are now Congregate (+17 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +5 GenPop)
134 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
265 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
92 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 411 (+2) and NandO is at 414 deaths
414 positive cases over 5796 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
160 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Guilford County is up to 30 deaths and as of Tuesday's report they did not have a single congregate setting death, which is super unusual. Most of the high death count counties have significant congregate death tolls. So what is going on in Guilford County or are they submitting incomplete data? It sticks out as such an outlier, I would love to know what is actually happening there.
NC Cases*
11,509
NC Deaths**
420
Currently Hospitalized
502
Completed Tests
139,475
245 Deaths are now Congregate (+16 since yesterday)
35 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+15 Not GenPop, +6 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
280 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
95 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 420 (+2) and NandO is at 419 deaths
586 positive cases over 5642 new tests. 10.4% positive rate.
102 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
Highest single day of positive cases, although the positive rate is only about 1.5% average. I wish I knew what congregate or workplaces testing was in there.
NC Cases*
11,664
NC Deaths**
422
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
143,835
246 Deaths are now Congregate (+1 since yesterday)
36 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+2 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+2 Not GenPop, +0 GenPop)
140 Deaths assumed General Population (+6)
282 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)
97 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 435 (+2) and NandO is at 432 deaths
155 positive cases over 4360 new tests. 3.6% positive rate.
42 of the new positive cases are in congregate facilities.
DHHS has caught up to media as of yesterday morning. They are now lagging 8-13 behind again.
NC Cases*
11,848
NC Deaths**
430
Currently Hospitalized
498
Completed Tests
146,439
252 Deaths are now Congregate (+6 since yesterday)
37 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+7 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
141 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
289 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+7)
99 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 450 (+2) and NandO is at 442 deaths <- should hop up shortly from weekend lag.
184 positive cases over 2604 new tests. 7.1% positive rate.
DHHS lagging again. Behind 10 or so deaths, but they usually catch up later in the week with verification.
NC Cases*
12,256
NC Deaths**
452
Currently Hospitalized
534
Completed Tests
151,800
263 Deaths are now Congregate (+11 since yesterday)
39 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+22 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+13 Not GenPop, +9 GenPop)
150 Deaths assumed General Population (+9)
302 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)
104 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
WRAL is at 464 (+2) and NandO is at 460 deaths
408 positive cases over 5361 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
NC Cases*
12,758
NC Deaths**
477
Currently Hospitalized
516
Completed Tests
164,482
282 Deaths are now Congregate (+19 since yesterday)
41 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+25 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+21 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
154 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
323 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)
107 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 493 (+2) and NandO is at 485 deaths
502 positive cases over 12682 new tests. 4.0% positive rate.
Every day I post these, I seethe a little when I see the Congregate number, knowing that that total is driving bad policy.
NC Cases*
13,397
NC Deaths**
507
Currently Hospitalized
525
Completed Tests
171,328
303 Deaths are now Congregate (+21 since yesterday)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+30 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+26 Not GenPop, +4 GenPop)
158 Deaths assumed General Population (+4)
349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+26)
108 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 522 (+2) and NandO is at 513 deaths
631 positive cases over 6846 new tests. 9.3% positive rate.
Looks like a super catch-up day out of DHHS. New high for new tests in one day. Positive rate a little over average. Deaths I almost don't look at anymore since it is mostly congregate/unknown and so little is in the general population.
I am guessing the spike in cases came from the meat processing outbreak earlier this week, since the data of specimen collection chart shows a HUGE spike a couple days ago.
10 of those new deaths came out of Orange County. I was wondering when they were going to post since the Congregate Report has showed more deaths than the County report for some time now. A LOT of data lag here.... still want DHHS to put out an actual date of death report.
NC Cases*
13,868
NC Deaths**
527
Currently Hospitalized
515
Completed Tests
178,613
323 Deaths are now Congregate (+20 since yesterday)
44 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-2)
+20 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+18 Not GenPop, +2 GenPop)
160 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
367 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+18)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
WRAL is at 542 (+2) and NandO is at 529 deaths
471 positive cases over 7285 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.
Seriously... 20 new deaths yesterday, 20 reported congregate deaths and 2 deaths moving from unknown to general population. Wonder where attention should be focused? I still question those early deaths that more weren't congregate since Guilford County still shows a big fat 0 in the congregate report despite their high death total.
Around April 18th, NC started reporting Congregate deaths as a separate category.
Try to convince me that up until the time they started reporting until April 17 origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 36%
Unknown: 11%
General Public: 53%
BUT SINCE April 18 average reported origination of COVID deaths:
Congregate: 72.7%
Unknown: 7.2%
General Public: 20.1%
NC Cases*
14360
NC Deaths**
544
Currently Hospitalized
513
Completed Tests
186,362
336 Deaths are now Congregate (+13 since yesterday)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+17 Deaths Overall since yesterday. (+16 Not GenPop, +1 GenPop)
161 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
383 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)
106 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-4)
WRAL is at 557 (+2) and NandO is at 545 deaths
492 positive cases over 7749 new tests. 6.3% positive rate.
Again notice only 1 confirmed not in congregate setting.
If the site is right, today is the first day of DECLINE in total number of congregate facilities affected. That means facilities are starting to clear cases.
NC Cases*
14764
NC Deaths**
547
Currently Hospitalized
442
Completed Tests
192,135
339 Deaths are now Congregate (+3)
46 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+3 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
162 Deaths assumed General Population (+1)
385 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)
109 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+3)
WRAL is at 562 (+2) and NandO is at 561 deaths
404 positive cases over 5773 new tests. 7.0% positive rate.
Weird reporting today. Hospitalized likely low due to lower hospital reporting percentage. DHHS is becoming like Sweden with this weekend lag (15 behind this morning's media numbers). I guess they don't verify on weekends.
NC Cases*
15045
NC Deaths**
550
Currently Hospitalized
464
Completed Tests
195,865
339 Deaths are now Congregate (+0)
47 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+3 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
164 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
386 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+1)
109 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
WRAL is at 564 (+2) and NandO is at 567 deaths
282 positive cases over 3730 new tests. 7.6% positive rate.
Still a lot of weekend lag. I guess verification of congregate can't take place on the weekend. Tomorrow should see a good sized bump since media is already 15+ deaths ahead before their daily boost.
NC Cases*
15,346
NC Deaths**
577
Currently Hospitalized
475
Completed Tests
202,244
359 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
49 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+2)
+27 Deaths Overall since yesterday.
169 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
408 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+22)
110 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
WRAL is at 574 (+2) and NandO is at 596 deaths
301 positive cases over 6379 new tests. 4.7% positive rate.
There is the weekend catchup. Numbers about what you would expect. Mostly congregate.
Based on NandO, we are getting another big catchup day tomorrow. They are posting death totals early.
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