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In reply to MayorStoner • 7:27a, 6/26/21
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GuerrillaPack said:
So it appears that some high ups in the NCAA decided to pull some strings for some bogus "positive" tests to derail NC State's run in the CWS. Can't have the Wolfpack getting too uppity.

But keep believing in and loving this Rona scamdemic psyop. It's allowing us to do great things for the world, and we should keep destroying every facet of our society in order to show how brainwashed and subservient we are, and how much we love begging the government to take away all of our freedoms.

And apparently the "testing" protocols don't apply to players who have taken a mystery injection. So these "positive tests" in athletic events (like Jon Rahm's recent disqualification) are likely ploys used to coerce the general population at large to get vaccinated.
this is the moment you have been waiting for....covid conspiracy meets NC State sports. And honestly I'm bout ready to join you on this and burn down all the NCAA buildings before they bring New World Order on us all. Come join me....
25k fans allowed in for games. No tests. No masks. Zero concern as long as the money is being paid to the NCAA....

Two of the Golden Spikes Award nominees are on Vandy. How many unc-cheat alum are in the NCAA front office?

Conspiracy theory....maybe....

Here's what is not a conspiracy theory. The more layers of this Covid 19 story are peeled back the more and more it is showing that yes, it was a virus. Yes it affected the high risk demographic as does most contagion viruses. No we did not need to shutdown the country, destroy the economy, upend children's education.

Why did this happen? Because the left's desire for power knows no bound and idiots, many on this board, slurp it up lock stock and barrel.

Wear your masks and thump your chests about how you are doing the "right thing." If you have a family member(s) that have/had compromised immune systems before Covid you should have been doing that all along. So don't bring that crap into a current discussion and try to play the self righteous card.

What happened in the wee hours of the morning was nothing but a power play by the NCAA to garnish what they think will be more ticket sales, more money and more exposure from ESPN and the National Media.

The kids who chose not to take the vaccine were punished by the lefty powers that run the NCAA and ESPN. And many of you who feel the same can 100% GO POUND SAND!!!

The players on this team deserve better than what the lefties in this country have done. And all of you that spouted off the nonsense I hope like hell you turn in your NCSU fan card. This is as much on you as it is anyone for supporting the BS lies that are and were being fed to us by your MSM overlords.

Enjoy your masks, fear mongering and gargling the SOCIALIST agenda that you all so crave and want.
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In reply to BBW12OG • 8:40a, 6/26/21
BBW12OG said:
MayorStoner said:
GuerrillaPack said:
So it appears that some high ups in the NCAA decided to pull some strings for some bogus "positive" tests to derail NC State's run in the CWS. Can't have the Wolfpack getting too uppity.

But keep believing in and loving this Rona scamdemic psyop. It's allowing us to do great things for the world, and we should keep destroying every facet of our society in order to show how brainwashed and subservient we are, and how much we love begging the government to take away all of our freedoms.

And apparently the "testing" protocols don't apply to players who have taken a mystery injection. So these "positive tests" in athletic events (like Jon Rahm's recent disqualification) are likely ploys used to coerce the general population at large to get vaccinated.
this is the moment you have been waiting for....covid conspiracy meets NC State sports. And honestly I'm bout ready to join you on this and burn down all the NCAA buildings before they bring New World Order on us all. Come join me....
25k fans allowed in for games. No tests. No masks. Zero concern as long as the money is being paid to the NCAA....

Two of the Golden Spikes Award nominees are on Vandy. How many unc-cheat alum are in the NCAA front office?

Conspiracy theory....maybe....

Here's what is not a conspiracy theory. The more layers of this Covid 19 story are peeled back the more and more it is showing that yes, it was a virus. Yes it affected the high risk demographic as does most contagion viruses. No we did not need to shutdown the country, destroy the economy, upend children's education.

Why did this happen? Because the left's desire for power knows no bound and idiots, many on this board, slurp it up lock stock and barrel.

Wear your masks and thump your chests about how you are doing the "right thing." If you have a family member(s) that have/had compromised immune systems before Covid you should have been doing that all along. So don't bring that crap into a current discussion and try to play the self righteous card.

What happened in the wee hours of the morning was nothing but a power play by the NCAA to garnish what they think will be more ticket sales, more money and more exposure from ESPN and the National Media.

The kids who chose not to take the vaccine were punished by the lefty powers that run the NCAA and ESPN. And many of you who feel the same can 100% GO POUND SAND!!!

The players on this team deserve better than what the lefties in this country have done. And all of you that spouted off the nonsense I hope like hell you turn in your NCSU fan card. This is as much on you as it is anyone for supporting the BS lies that are and were being fed to us by your MSM overlords.

Enjoy your masks, fear mongering and gargling the SOCIALIST agenda that you all so crave and want.


Excellent points. If the NCAA is "so concerned" about Covid, then they should ALSO be testing all the 25k fans, and exempting those who are jabbed from testing. And especially because older people (eg, 50+ year old fans) are the ones who are actually facing any risk at all from "covid".

Of course, I am 100% opposed to testing and mandatory vaccines for this, in any facet of society. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy, and things that make no sense. Why test young players and push vaccines on them when they are at zero risk from covid?...and not for old fans who are actually far more at risk? (Per their official narrative on the risks for each age group, which I don't believe anyway)

Why? Not because of "the science" or a genuine concern for the health and well-being of people. No. It's all about pushing an agenda. They are making a spectacle with the bogus PCR test and false "positives", and exempting vaccinated players from the testing all as a well publicized psyop in order to show how unvaccinated people should be "punished" in society.

If the testing was out of a genuine concern for health, then they would also test the vaccinated, because those who are vaccinated can still catch and transmit covid.

Ultimately, it's all about pushing these injections and punishing those who won't submit to it. There's something in these injections that the powers-that-be REALLY want in your body. And if you think that the government and the ruling elites actually care to advance the health of the masses, you're crazy.
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9:29a, 6/26/21
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9:41a, 6/26/21
This post tagged NC State's official Old Row account. Just read the comments. Everyone is saying it's BS or outright rigged, even Carolina fans.

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9:54a, 6/26/21
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Just saw on Twitter that the Whitehouse (ie., Biden) is planning to ask states to reinstate mask policies, due to concerns about the Delta variant.

My response to the Tweet - I am fully vaccinated and have no plans to wear a mask. The Whitehouse can Piss Off.

The vaccines should protect me from serious illness associated with the Delta variant and I will not be a risk to others.
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10:30a, 6/26/21
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Just don't play catch.
Like I said, if you can't get hyped for the Carolina game, why are you here?
-Earl Wolff-
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10:48a, 6/26/21
So apparently they did test vaccinated NC State players, and 4 of them tested positive? I just now read this in going through the threads in the "Pack The Doak" forum. So disregard that apparent mistake in my couple posts in this thread over the last day. I was relying on other posters statements who said that vaccinated players were not tested. That surprises me that they test vaccinated players - due to the fact that the protocol by many other governments and companies to exempt vaccinated people from testing, mask requirements, quarantine, etc... and just assuming they are "good to go".

Nevertheless, this proves that the vaccines aren't as "effective" as they claim...or that the testing is a joke. If these "positive" vaccinated players are supposedly "protected" from transmitting it to others by their vaccine, then why does the NCAA ban those players from competition? They are admitting that getting the vaccine is useless (except for, allegedly, helping the vaccinated person fight the virus and allegedly preventing them from "getting very sick").
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In reply to Daviewolf83 • 10:54a, 6/26/21
Daviewolf83 said:
Just saw on Twitter that the Whitehouse (ie., Biden) is planning to ask states to reinstate mask policies, due to concerns about the Delta variant.

My response to the Tweet - I am fully vaccinated and have no plans to wear a mask. The Whitehouse can Piss Off.

The vaccines should protect me from serious illness associated with the Delta variant and I will not be a risk to others.
Thank you Davie.... damn good post. I for one will be arrested if they try and force me to wear a mask. Call me what you want lefties. This **** has gone too far.

This is all part of their "end game" for the 2022 mid-terms. They KNOW they are about to have the biggest losses in the history of this country and the only way they can win is to force mail-in voting, ballot harvesting and a two month voting period so they will know where and how many votes they need to harvest in order to win.

It would be a hell of a strategy if you didn't have the ****ing Keystone Cops running the damn show that can't keep their faces off TV and their mouths out of the ears of reporters just to be seen.

Wait until the Epsilon and Gamma variants come out.... we will not be allowed our of our homes until the second Wednesday in November 2022.....

You lefties... ALL of you... GO POUND SAND!!!! Your desire to ruin this country just to "own" the Conservatives is about to bite you in your pompous asses.

Davie will you, Pine or Guerilla go ahead and flag this post for me please? I would hate for one of the SOCIALISTS to actually have to do something for themselves.
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 3:38p, 6/26/21
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So apparently they did test vaccinated NC State players, and 4 of them tested positive? I just now read this in going through the threads in the "Pack The Doak" forum. So disregard that apparent mistake in my couple posts in this thread over the last day. I was relying on other posters statements who said that vaccinated players were not tested. That surprises me that they test vaccinated players - due to the fact that the protocol by many other governments and companies to exempt vaccinated people from testing, mask requirements, quarantine, etc... and just assuming they are "good to go".

Nevertheless, this proves that the vaccines aren't as "effective" as they claim...or that the testing is a joke. If these "positive" vaccinated players are supposedly "protected" from transmitting it to others by their vaccine, then why does the NCAA ban those players from competition? They are admitting that getting the vaccine is useless (except for, allegedly, helping the vaccinated person fight the virus and allegedly preventing them from "getting very sick").


Wrong. It doesn't prove sht except that the ncaa and most other policy makers/rule makers make stupid policies/ rules.
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4:29p, 6/26/21
Folks just need to move to Nashville. Apparently, they have a covid dome like Raleigh has a snow dome.
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In reply to Daviewolf83 • 7:18p, 6/26/21
Daviewolf83 said:
Just saw on Twitter that the Whitehouse (ie., Biden) is planning to ask states to reinstate mask policies, due to concerns about the Delta variant.

My response to the Tweet - I am fully vaccinated and have no plans to wear a mask. The Whitehouse can Piss Off.

The vaccines should protect me from serious illness associated with the Delta variant and I will not be a risk to others.

Twitter for crowdsourced news has benefits and drawbacks.

What do you think the actual probability is new mask mandates come to pass?
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In reply to Civilized • 11:53a, 6/27/21
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Civilized said:
Daviewolf83 said:
Just saw on Twitter that the Whitehouse (ie., Biden) is planning to ask states to reinstate mask policies, due to concerns about the Delta variant.

My response to the Tweet - I am fully vaccinated and have no plans to wear a mask. The Whitehouse can Piss Off.

The vaccines should protect me from serious illness associated with the Delta variant and I will not be a risk to others.

Twitter for crowdsourced news has benefits and drawbacks.

What do you think the actual probability is new mask mandates come to pass?
It was an article from a reputable publication, but I an not find the original article. In another article in Politico, it makes reference to the discussion happening in the CDC and NIH. Here's what the Politico article states,

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Department of Health and Human Services and the White House Covid-19 Task Force have discussed whether to press mayors and governors in the Midwest and South, where the highly transmissible Delta variant is spreading quickly, to once again require mask mandates, according to three senior Biden health officials. But the administration ultimately concluded that many people who are not vaccinated are also those who have resisted wearing masks."

So, discussions have been had within the administration about pressing mayors and governors to reinstate masking and social distance policies. Do I believe some governors would do this? I absolutely do. Our own governor is the perfect example of one who I believe would take the guidance and follow it. Do I believe it would be successful - absolutely not. I agree with the article that the only people who would follow this would be people who are already vaccinated. These are the people who wore masks and social distanced in the past.

The two key things being written about the most now as it concerns Covid are vaccination levels (too low still in many areas) and the Delta variant. Articles are already starting to be appear (some by health care professionals) that we can not return kids to school until they can be vaccinated, so they are protected from the Delta variant. I will be very clear on this topic - if schools are not 100% open across the country in the fall to in-person learning, our country will have failed. There is absolutely ZERO reason, knowing what we know today, for kids to NOT be returned to in-person leaning in the Fall.
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In reply to Daviewolf83 • 12:08p, 6/27/21
The scared mommy in my Facebook group of friends is already screaming about the Delta variant and keeping the kids out of school.
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In reply to wilmwolf • 12:16p, 6/27/21
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The scared mommy in my Facebook group of friends is already screaming about the Delta variant and keeping the kids out of school.
It's coming. There will be a tremendous amount of pressure, particularly from the "zero Covid" groups, who will try to keep schools closed. I can give you a list of doctors who post regularly on Twitter, who fall into this group. Always remember this expression : "The squeaky wheel gets the grease and everyone else gets the shaft." People who want too open schools need to be the louder squeaky wheel and let the zero Covid people get the shaft.
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12:22p, 6/27/21
https://instagr.am/p/CQoKo5rJK_u

Quote:
"Would you govern me? I'd govern me. I'd govern me hard. I'd govern me so hard."

*goodbye horses playing in the background*

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After the Delta variant, it will just be the next scary variant. Covid is the gift that keeps on giving.




Counter to this, I offer the following Tweet:

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7:21a, 6/28/21
Delta is spreading, on the 7-day average of less than 500 new cases.

Like I said, if you can't get hyped for the Carolina game, why are you here?
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8:33a, 6/28/21
Ive said it before in this thread, but I did what was requested while all the unknowns were going on. Ive gotten my vaccination, and I will not be going back to the mask, regardless of what the WHO requests. Im not living my life worrying about every single possible bad scenario, thats no way to live
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8:51a, 6/28/21
No *****

I'm about as pro-mask and pro-vaccine as you can get, but barring what would be pretty shocking info like a statistically significant mortality or serious-case spike in vaxxed individuals due to the Delta or some other variant, I ain't going back to a mask, sorry.

That ship has sailed.
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9:21a, 6/28/21
I've done everything that was required since this all started, whether I agreed with it or not, in the name of being a good citizen. I didn't hug my 96 year old grandmother for 15 months. I'm not doing that again, I don't care what they say.
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In reply to Civilized • 9:54a, 6/28/21
Brings up an interesting point, where's the data? For the public's benefit, it should be readily accessible, massively documented, be broadly consensual from academics across the nation (not cdc, not nih) and real time or less than 12 hour regularly updated.
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 10:16a, 6/28/21
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I carried over some angst from the baseball board here....it was imprecise.

Generally, I don't think vaccinated people should be doing the things that the gov't was forcing last year. You can't tell us that (a) vaccines work and that (b) you should still wear a mask to prevent you from getting/spreading the disease. That's doublethink.
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In reply to packwest • 10:46a, 6/28/21
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GuerrillaPack said:
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GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?


I totally agree with the last part of what you say, i don't wear my mask except in the hospital and in the office. But that meme is not an example of doublethink imho. They are not mutually contradictory when it comes to community health. Only in specific individual interactions do the words really resonate. Sure, on the surface it seems so clever.
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In reply to Mormad • 10:51a, 6/28/21
Mormad said:
bsorry11 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
https://instagr.am/p/CQlFK4-NJKo
GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?


I totally agree with the last part of what you say, i don't wear my mask except in the hospital and in the office. But that meme is not an example of doublethink imho. They are not mutually exclusive nor are they mutually contradictory when it comes to community health. Only in specific individual interactions do the words really resonate. Sure, on the surface it seems so clever.
I looked at it again....I admit that I skimmed over it. I'll edit.
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In reply to packwest • 10:53a, 6/28/21
This is the very narrative that the lefties are pushing and are going to push all the way up until the 2022 midterms. They found a strategy that worked to win elections. Mail-in voting and ballot harvesting. Extend the early voting so they know how many "mail-ins" they need after the polls close.

Lefties are going to take advantage of mindless sheep that buy into the nonsense every chance they get.

1984 isn't just a book to them. It's a blueprint.
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In reply to Mormad • 11:03a, 6/28/21
Mormad said:
bsorry11 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
https://instagr.am/p/CQlFK4-NJKo
GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?


I totally agree with the last part of what you say, i don't wear my mask except in the hospital and in the office. But that meme is not an example of doublethink imho. They are not mutually contradictory when it comes to community health. Only in specific individual interactions do the words really resonate. Sure, on the surface it seems so clever.

Yep, that's been one huge problem throughout this pandemic, maybe the biggest problem in terms of trust of institutions and politicization of the pandemic and science, medicine, etc.

There is a huge and understandable disconnect between personal risk evaluations and public health policymaking.

Many folks have consistently judged public health policies and policymakers through the lens of personal risk tolerance. Public health and personal risk frequently have divergent inputs and outputs.

What's good for the goose, or more accurately what the goose feels fine risking, often is less justifiable or prudent for the gander.
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In reply to Civilized • 11:13a, 6/28/21
Civilized said:
Mormad said:
bsorry11 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
https://instagr.am/p/CQlFK4-NJKo
GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?


I totally agree with the last part of what you say, i don't wear my mask except in the hospital and in the office. But that meme is not an example of doublethink imho. They are not mutually contradictory when it comes to community health. Only in specific individual interactions do the words really resonate. Sure, on the surface it seems so clever.

Yep, that's been one huge problem throughout this pandemic, maybe the biggest problem in terms of trust of institutions and politicization of the pandemic and science, medicine, etc.

There is a huge and understandable disconnect between personal risk evaluations and public health policymaking.

Many folks have consistently judged public health policies and policymakers through the lens of personal risk tolerance. Public health and personal risk frequently have divergent inputs and outputs.

What's good for the goose, or more accurately what the goose feels fine risking, often is less justifiable or prudent for the gander.
The problem lies in the fact that policies that public health think are 'good for the gander' solely viewed through the myopic lens of COVID may not actually be that effective.

And those same ineffective myopic COVID policies ARE horrible for the gander when you take a broader health perspective to be inclusive of all inputs (not just COVID).

Maybe just let the ****** goose make the risk assessment because politicized public health bureaucrats are completely incapable of risk assessment and cost-benefit analysis of policies.
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11:26a, 6/28/21
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/27/opinion/covid-vaccine-variants.html
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In reply to Wayland • 11:36a, 6/28/21
Wayland said:
Civilized said:
Mormad said:
bsorry11 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
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GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?


I totally agree with the last part of what you say, i don't wear my mask except in the hospital and in the office. But that meme is not an example of doublethink imho. They are not mutually contradictory when it comes to community health. Only in specific individual interactions do the words really resonate. Sure, on the surface it seems so clever.

Yep, that's been one huge problem throughout this pandemic, maybe the biggest problem in terms of trust of institutions and politicization of the pandemic and science, medicine, etc.

There is a huge and understandable disconnect between personal risk evaluations and public health policymaking.

Many folks have consistently judged public health policies and policymakers through the lens of personal risk tolerance. Public health and personal risk frequently have divergent inputs and outputs.

What's good for the goose, or more accurately what the goose feels fine risking, often is less justifiable or prudent for the gander.
The problem lies in the fact that policies that public health think are 'good for the gander' solely viewed through the myopic lens of COVID may not actually be that effective.

And those same ineffective myopic COVID policies ARE horrible for the gander when you take a broader health perspective to be inclusive of all inputs (not just COVID).

Maybe just let the ****** goose make the risk assessment because politicized public health bureaucrats are completely incapable of risk assessment and cost-benefit analysis of policies.


Unfortunately, the geese have proven to make pretty shtty decisions too.
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In reply to Mormad • 12:24p, 6/28/21
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bsorry11 said:
GuerrillaPack said:
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GP --

I don't find much common ground with you....but this is an area where I do. I read 1984 a few weeks ago and Orwell coined the term "doublethink" in that book as part of the Party's "newspeak" language. For those that haven't read it since HS, doublethink is where you're asked to believe two mutually contradictory beliefs.

This is doublethink and the NCAA (and others) have put it into practice.

(this might be where we diverge in opinion)

I think there is sufficient evidence to show that the vaccine works and does its job. So, if we trust that evidence and the science (which I do), then why am I supposed to continue doing things like wearing masks? You can't tell me that the vaccine works (with a 90%+ effective rate) and then ask me to believe that I need to take additional counter-measures for the sake of doing so?

1984 is a must read. It's not "pure fiction". Eric Blair (pen name "George Orwell") was actually an insider into the socialist/communist agenda. He fought on the side of the communists in the Spanish Civil War, and then later became an opponent of communism later in life. He knew what the Marxist PLAN was for the future. His novel 1984 was a warning of that plan. The novel predicted, for instance, the use of "telescreens" that were everywhere in order to spy on people's movements and speech everywhere. And now we have smart TVs and our cellphones which are used to do this exact thing.

The reason that "doublethink" exists is because the Marxist-Leftist agenda is so chock full of lies, that eventually contradictions emerge. For instance, Leftists like to tell us nowadays that "race doesn't exist", and "race is just a social construct". Yet, then they turn around and behave the exact opposite, when telling us that "racism" exists and that people should be given certain advantages (or punished) based on their race/ethnicity (ie, "affirmative action"). This contradiction exists because the Left want one group of people to behave or be treated a certain way based upon their race, and OTHER groups of people to behave to be treated a different way - ie, "double standards"...such as telling one group that it's "evil" to take pride in their race, while promoting to other groups that it is good for them to take pride in their race.

The contradictions with "covid" are numerous. For instance, you have the NCAA pretending to be "so concerned about the safety of the public", so they require all this testing and disqualification of players...and yet they allow 25,000 fans into the CWS with no testing or vaccine requirement or mask requirements or anything. Or, for example, you have all these politicians who would have us believe that covid is the 2nd coming of the black death, and issuing all these unconstitutional draconian mandates and restrictions...and yet they have been caught over and over violating their own mandates (eg, not wearing masks, etc).
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 12:31p, 6/28/21
If one thing is known for certain it is the fact that the lefties, like many on this board, will never fail to contradict themselves to push their agendas. And yes, I believe they are evolving from SOCIALISM to MARXISM... hell, one of the lefties on here after screaming at me for months finally openly admitted to supporting the SOCIALIST agenda.

They slow play you into thinking that's as extreme as they want to go.... when in fact the end goal is single party rule and the government controlling every facet of our lives. They are idiotic and spineless enough to want that. Again, when some of them come up with an idea or thought that hasn't been programmed into their feeble minds by their MSM overlords it will be their first.
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In reply to GuerrillaPack • 1:40p, 6/28/21
Lots and lots of truth in there, friend
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In reply to Civilized • 6:02p, 6/28/21
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Daviewolf83 said:
Just saw on Twitter that the Whitehouse (ie., Biden) is planning to ask states to reinstate mask policies, due to concerns about the Delta variant.

My response to the Tweet - I am fully vaccinated and have no plans to wear a mask. The Whitehouse can Piss Off.

The vaccines should protect me from serious illness associated with the Delta variant and I will not be a risk to others.

Twitter for crowdsourced news has benefits and drawbacks.

What do you think the actual probability is new mask mandates come to pass?
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In reply to Packchem91 • 6:10p, 6/28/21
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TheStorm said:
I pretty much did all the same things last year that I am doing this year... and so did most of everyone else in my area (we just had to wear masks inside businesses), but I live on the coast so maybe it's different in Raleigh, Charlotte, etc.

And I don't have young school aged kids anymore either, so I didn't have to deal with any of those restrictions that others had to.


Interesting, so the people down at the coast still get right up in each other's face when waiting in line? Went to church during all this and hugged and shook hands with everyone? Still go to target, grocery, gas station, etc, touch a bunch of stuff and then just go on w/o washing hands?

Now, I've always been a social distancer in crowds, so I was already doing that to a large degree, but I've observed all those changes in general over the past 18 months
People, on the coast, near where I am 1/2 the time, never followed suit like the people in the triangle (Cary 1/2 my other time). Guess, what, they voted around 70% Republican and they weren't any worse on the infection rate than Wake County.
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