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packgrad said:

I read part of a "study" yesterday that said wearing a neck gaiter (what I wear everyday for work) is worse than no mask at all. I'm so over this mess.
saw something like that -- I think it was a Duke Med School study? I mean, its pretty reasonable to expect that not all masks work as well as others from a purely "droplet prevention" perspective. And many of the masks being used were clearly never really designed / intended to be involved in preventing droplets of spittle from being spread.

Does that contribute or not to spread of Covid? No idea....I guess under the exact right conditions it could.
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https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083

Interesting study on the different types of masks and how they help or hurt those around you.
3rd generation CALS grad
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"The overall effects of this epidemic have essentially been impossible for the average person to see without a microscope. Hospitals are not overflowing. Bodies are not piling up in the streets. Most of us will never know anyone under 55 (65? 70?) who has died of #Covid."

This guy has an oddly high bar to clear for determining epidemic seriousness.

Impossible to see what will be 180k+ Americans dead? Unless we have bodies 'piling up in the streets'?

He needs to actually see the dead bodies? He needs to see multiple neighbors wheeled out on gurneys covered with sheets? He needs his local hospital to overflow?

This thing will kill at least 6x the average number of Americans that die from the flu each year AFTER taking the extraordinary step of shutting down the country for several months. It would have been much worse than that without shutdowns, distancing, and masks.

What's his point? That the media amps up anxiety about negative events? That's definitely true but that's not limited to COVID, they don't have to look hard to do that with COVID, and no matter how the media portrays it there's no doubting COVID's seriousness.

Conversely, does he see Americans cowering in the corner of their house, afraid to step foot outside? As evidenced by the healing economy and now-declining COVID numbers, most Americans seem to be wearing masks, distancing, going to work, and generally resuming some/many aspects of our pre-COVID lives.

I guess him just observing "the media could stand to ramp down their frothiness about COVID" doesn't get him as many Twitter follows as raging against the machine.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:


"The overall effects of this epidemic have essentially been impossible for the average person to see without a microscope. Hospitals are not overflowing. Bodies are not piling up in the streets. Most of us will never know anyone under 55 (65? 70?) who has died of #Covid."

This guy has an oddly high bar to clear for determining epidemic seriousness.

Impossible to see what will be 180k+ Americans dead? Unless we have bodies 'piling up in the streets'?

He needs to actually see the dead bodies? He needs to see multiple neighbors wheeled out on gurneys covered with sheets? He needs his local hospital to overflow?

This thing will kill at least 6x the average number of Americans that die from the flu each year AFTER taking the extraordinary step of shutting down the country for several months. It would have been much worse than that without shutdowns, distancing, and masks.

What's his point? That the media amps up anxiety about negative events? That's definitely true but that's not limited to COVID, they don't have to look hard to do that with COVID, and no matter how the media portrays it there's no doubting COVID's seriousness.

Conversely, does he see Americans cowering in the corner of their house, afraid to step foot outside? As evidenced by the healing economy and now-declining COVID numbers, most Americans seem to be wearing masks, distancing, going to work, and generally resuming some/many aspects of our pre-COVID lives.

I guess him just observing "the media could stand to ramp down their frothiness about COVID" doesn't get him as many Twitter follows as raging against the machine.


No, he's been pretty clear on his thoughts on the shutdown and it's effectiveness. Also been clear on his thoughts on the numbers. I think he's actually clear on all of his points.
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:


"The overall effects of this epidemic have essentially been impossible for the average person to see without a microscope. Hospitals are not overflowing. Bodies are not piling up in the streets. Most of us will never know anyone under 55 (65? 70?) who has died of #Covid."

This guy has an oddly high bar to clear for determining epidemic seriousness.

Impossible to see what will be 180k+ Americans dead? Unless we have bodies 'piling up in the streets'?

He needs to actually see the dead bodies? He needs to see multiple neighbors wheeled out on gurneys covered with sheets? He needs his local hospital to overflow?

This thing will kill at least 6x the average number of Americans that die from the flu each year AFTER taking the extraordinary step of shutting down the country for several months. It would have been much worse than that without shutdowns, distancing, and masks.

What's his point? That the media amps up anxiety about negative events? That's definitely true but that's not limited to COVID, they don't have to look hard to do that with COVID, and no matter how the media portrays it there's no doubting COVID's seriousness.

Conversely, does he see Americans cowering in the corner of their house, afraid to step foot outside? As evidenced by the healing economy and now-declining COVID numbers, most Americans seem to be wearing masks, distancing, going to work, and generally resuming some/many aspects of our pre-COVID lives.

I guess him just observing "the media could stand to ramp down their frothiness about COVID" doesn't get him as many Twitter follows as raging against the machine.
That was quite the performance...
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7/31/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
122,148
NC Deaths
1924
Currently Hospitalized
1229 <- 91% reporting (was 1239 at 89% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,757,102

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1010 Deaths are now Congregate (+8)
282 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

632 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1292 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)

309 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 160 -> 164
Resident Care 90 -> 94
Correctional 31 -> 34
Other 16 -> 17
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WRAL is at 1929* deaths

1954 positive cases over 32178 new tests. 6.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 32178 but DHHS claims only 27741 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 7/30 - +21, +2 Previously Missing Date, 1 Death Removed
7/30(2), 7/29(10), 7/28(4), 7/27(2), 7/26, 7/25(3), 7/21, 7/20

1 death removed on 6/25
8/1/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
123,878
NC Deaths
1964
Currently Hospitalized
1151 <- 92% reporting (was 1229 at 91% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,786,412

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1031 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
291 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

642 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1322 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

304 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 164 -> 162
Resident Care 94 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 33
Other 17 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1952* deaths

1730 positive cases over 29310 new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29310 but DHHS claims only 26510 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/1 40 deaths
7/31(6), 7/30(13), 7/29(3), 7/28(5), 7/26(2), 7/25(3), 7/24(3), 7/23, 7/22, 7/21, 7/20, and 7/14

Congregate deaths continue to be through the roof. 116 congregate and 60 unknown deaths reported the last 10 days.

Case reporting lag is getting super tight. Next two days case numbers should plummet.
8/2/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
125,219
NC Deaths
1969
Currently Hospitalized
1142 <- 85% reporting (was 1151 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,813,510

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1033 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
292 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

644 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1325 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

305 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 162
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 33 -> 34
Other 14 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1992* deaths

1341 positive cases over 27098 new tests. 4.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27098 but DHHS claims only 24962 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/2
8/1, 7/31, 7/30, 7/22 and one missing.

Cases by date of specimen keep declining. If they continue to call this 'stabilization' it is a bold faced lie.



8/3/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
126,532
NC Deaths
1982
Currently Hospitalized
1057 <- 79% reporting (was 1142 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,837,410

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1038 Deaths are now Congregate (+5)
295 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+13 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

649 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
1333 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

307 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 163
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 34
Other 14 -> 15
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WRAL is at 2000* deaths

1313 positive cases over 23900 new tests. 5.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 23900 but DHHS claims only 20378 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/3
8/2(2), 8/1(7), 7/31, 7/30, 7/29, and 7/26
They also removed 1 death from the missing dates of death tally, but I couldn't locate a 14th death assigned.

RE: Hospitalizations. Someone big in the Triad likely missed reporting. Their numbers dropped too far in one day to be organic. I would figure at least 80 additional if the missing hospital was in.
8/4/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
128,161
NC Deaths
2010
Currently Hospitalized
1166 <- 92% reporting (was 1057 at 79% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,854,026

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1048 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
301 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

661 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

321 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+14)
Nursing Homes 163 -> 170
Resident Care 95 -> 98
Correctional 34 -> 37
Other 15 -> 16
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WRAL is at 2015* deaths

1629 positive cases over 16616 new tests. 9.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16616 but DHHS claims only 9667 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/4
8/3(2), 8/2(8), 8/1(9), 7/31(1), 7/30(3), 7/21, 7/19, 7/14, 7/2, and 1 added to Missing DoD.


Cases are higher than I would have guessed for lag. I think the case numbers are being bumped some by outbreak testing. A number of new correctional and nursing outbreaks caught. Did a quick glance down county data, and other than Meck posting a little higher than average lately (around 300 cases) most of the other case increases are from smaller counties having slightly higher case totals reported.

The amount of tests done is obscenely low and shows that it is all basically hospital cases, not outside labs being counted.
8/5/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
129,288
NC Deaths
2050
Currently Hospitalized
1167 <- 93% reporting (was 1166 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,873,668

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1065 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
311 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+40 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

674 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
1376 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+27)

322 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 170 -> 172
Resident Care 98 -> 98
Correctional 37 -> 39
Other 16 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2039* deaths

1127 positive cases over 19624 new tests. 5.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 19624 but DHHS claims only 19444 completed tests

BACKLOG DAY
Dates of Death Reported 8/5
8/4, 8/3(5), 8/2(4), 8/1(4), 7/31(5), 7/30(4), 7/29(2), 7/28(5), 7/27(3), 7/26, 7/25, 7/24(4), 7/23(2), 7/8 , 7/6, 6/30

One removed on 7/14. I am getting one additional death assigned than should be accounted for, but there could be another removal that I am missing or just a reporting error.

Lowest case reported day since June

Deaths Added by County
Camden(2), Chatham(1), Davie(1), Duplin(1), Forsyth(2), Gaston(1), Granville(1), Guilford(3), Harnett(2), Haywood(1), McDowell(2), Meck(2), New Hanover(1), Richmond(1), Stanly(13)!!!!!!!!, Wake(3), Union(3)

Deaths Removed
Bladen 1

CONGREGATE DEATHS continue to drive the increase. 17 congregate and 10 unknowns reported today.
8/6/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
131,267
NC Deaths
2092
Currently Hospitalized
1147 <- 90% reporting (was 1167 at 93% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,904,750

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1092 Deaths are now Congregate (+27)
316 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

684 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1408 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+32)

327 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 172 -> 175
Resident Care 98 -> 99
Correctional 39 -> 40
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2071* deaths

1979 positive cases over 31028 new tests. 6.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31028 but DHHS claims only 29418 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/6 MORE BACKLOG
8/5(4), 8/4(10), 8/3(4), 8/2(3), 8/1(3), 7/31(3), 7/30, 7/25, 7/23(2), 7/21, 7/20(2), 7/13, 7/10, 7/6(3), 7/5, 7/3, and 6/26

1979 cases.... that is the big drama over not reporting 4 days cases.... as I said, it would be a couple hundred more and not change the trend line.
8/7/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
132,812
NC Deaths
2134
Currently Hospitalized
1123 <- 90% reporting (was 1147 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,939,812

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1112 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
331 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

691 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1443 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+35)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 175 -> 177
Resident Care 99 -> 100
Correctional 40 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2115* deaths

1545 positive cases over 35026 new tests. 4.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 35026 but DHHS claims only 25212 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/7
8/6(4), 8/5(8), 8/4(8), 8/3(3), 8/2, 8/1(4), 7/31(4), 7/30(2), 7/29(2), 7/27, 7/22, 7/21(2), 7/20, 7/18

TWENTY more Congregate deaths and FIFTEEN(!!!!) Unknown. How can you not know where people live? Make a call.

Wake with 27 deaths added the last 2 days.


8/8/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
134,766
NC Deaths
2160
Currently Hospitalized
1129 <- 87% reporting (was 1123 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,969,766

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1118 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+26 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1458 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

329 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 177 -> 174
Resident Care 100 -> 100
Correctional 42 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2158* deaths

1954 positive cases over 29954 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29954 but DHHS claims only 27034 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/8
8/7(7), 8/6(7), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(3), 8/1(4), 7/28, 7/27(2), 7/24

Dates of Deaths REMOVED 8/8
7/18, 6/11

Today was the second worst day for lagged cases in the last month with almost 15% of cases reported today coming 7/29 or earlier.

8/9/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,218
NC Deaths
2168
Currently Hospitalized
1109 <- 84% reporting (was 1129 at 87% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,986,548

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1127 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
339 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1466 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 174 -> 176
Resident Care 100 -> 101
Correctional 42 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2183* deaths

1452 positive cases over 16782 new tests. 8.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16782 but DHHS claims only 16749 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/9 ALL CONGREGATE
8/8, 8/7(3), 8/6, 8/2, 7/18, 7/10

8/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,844
NC Deaths
2172
Currently Hospitalized
1111 <- 84% reporting (was 1109 at 80% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,001,919

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1128 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

704 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1468 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 176
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2189* deaths

626 positive cases over 15371 new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 13392 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/10
8/9(2), 8/7(2)

Lowest cases in forever (6/2). 5% positive on DHHS metric. Lag has bit them in the ass.

Will keep looking. Knew it was going to be low. Thought it would be tomorrow with the low low though. Guess they want it higher tomorrow for briefing day.
8/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
137,895
NC Deaths
2204
Currently Hospitalized
1122 <- 92% reporting (was 1111 at 84% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,017,498

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1140 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
349 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

715 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1489 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

331 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-2)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 173
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 44
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2192* deaths

1051 positive cases over 15579 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 10098 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/11
8/10(5), 8/9(8), 8/8(6), 8/7(3), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(2), 7/31, 7/29, 7/28, 7/27, 7/18, 6/30, 6/28

One death removed on 7/10

Still reviewing
8/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
139,061
NC Deaths
2249
Currently Hospitalized
1062 <- 91% reporting (was 1122 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,823,283 (was 2,017,498 yesterday)

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1159 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
364 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+45 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

726 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1523 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+34)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 173 -> 181
Resident Care 101 -> 104
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2255* deaths

1166 positive cases over 26129* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.
Using DHHS value since delta is MINUS 194215

Delta completed tests -194,215 but DHHS claims only 26129 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/12
8/11(3), 8/10(9), 8/9(6), 8/8(4), 8/7(6), 8/6(2), 8/5(3), 8/4(2), 8/3(2), 8/2, 8/1, 7/30(2), 7/25, 7/24, 7/18, 6/25

46 added to Date of Death. 45 new and 1 previously missing.

DHHS is blaming LabCorp for the 200000 missing tests CORRECTION, but now we have no idea on today's positive percent.
https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-releases/ncdhhs-corrects-covid-19-testing-totals-after-identifying-labcorp-reporting
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"Although this reporting error impacts our count of total tests completed, it does not alter our key metrics or change our understanding of COVID-19 transmission in North Carolina, which shows stabilization over the last few weeks," said NCDHHS Secretary Mandy Cohen, M.D.

Fire Mandy
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7/31/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
122,148
NC Deaths
1924
Currently Hospitalized
1229 <- 91% reporting (was 1239 at 89% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,757,102

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1010 Deaths are now Congregate (+8)
282 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

632 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1292 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)

309 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 160 -> 164
Resident Care 90 -> 94
Correctional 31 -> 34
Other 16 -> 17
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WRAL is at 1929* deaths

1954 positive cases over 32178 new tests. 6.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 32178 but DHHS claims only 27741 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 7/30 - +21, +2 Previously Missing Date, 1 Death Removed
7/30(2), 7/29(10), 7/28(4), 7/27(2), 7/26, 7/25(3), 7/21, 7/20

1 death removed on 6/25
8/1/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
123,878
NC Deaths
1964
Currently Hospitalized
1151 <- 92% reporting (was 1229 at 91% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,786,412

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1031 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
291 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

642 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1322 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

304 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 164 -> 162
Resident Care 94 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 33
Other 17 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1952* deaths

1730 positive cases over 29310 new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29310 but DHHS claims only 26510 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/1 40 deaths
7/31(6), 7/30(13), 7/29(3), 7/28(5), 7/26(2), 7/25(3), 7/24(3), 7/23, 7/22, 7/21, 7/20, and 7/14

Congregate deaths continue to be through the roof. 116 congregate and 60 unknown deaths reported the last 10 days.

Case reporting lag is getting super tight. Next two days case numbers should plummet.
8/2/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
125,219
NC Deaths
1969
Currently Hospitalized
1142 <- 85% reporting (was 1151 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,813,510

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1033 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
292 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

644 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1325 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

305 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 162
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 33 -> 34
Other 14 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1992* deaths

1341 positive cases over 27098 new tests. 4.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27098 but DHHS claims only 24962 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/2
8/1, 7/31, 7/30, 7/22 and one missing.

Cases by date of specimen keep declining. If they continue to call this 'stabilization' it is a bold faced lie.



8/3/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
126,532
NC Deaths
1982
Currently Hospitalized
1057 <- 79% reporting (was 1142 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,837,410

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1038 Deaths are now Congregate (+5)
295 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+13 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

649 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
1333 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

307 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 163
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 34
Other 14 -> 15
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WRAL is at 2000* deaths

1313 positive cases over 23900 new tests. 5.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 23900 but DHHS claims only 20378 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/3
8/2(2), 8/1(7), 7/31, 7/30, 7/29, and 7/26
They also removed 1 death from the missing dates of death tally, but I couldn't locate a 14th death assigned.

RE: Hospitalizations. Someone big in the Triad likely missed reporting. Their numbers dropped too far in one day to be organic. I would figure at least 80 additional if the missing hospital was in.
8/4/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
128,161
NC Deaths
2010
Currently Hospitalized
1166 <- 92% reporting (was 1057 at 79% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,854,026

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1048 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
301 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

661 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

321 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+14)
Nursing Homes 163 -> 170
Resident Care 95 -> 98
Correctional 34 -> 37
Other 15 -> 16
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WRAL is at 2015* deaths

1629 positive cases over 16616 new tests. 9.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16616 but DHHS claims only 9667 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/4
8/3(2), 8/2(8), 8/1(9), 7/31(1), 7/30(3), 7/21, 7/19, 7/14, 7/2, and 1 added to Missing DoD.


Cases are higher than I would have guessed for lag. I think the case numbers are being bumped some by outbreak testing. A number of new correctional and nursing outbreaks caught. Did a quick glance down county data, and other than Meck posting a little higher than average lately (around 300 cases) most of the other case increases are from smaller counties having slightly higher case totals reported.

The amount of tests done is obscenely low and shows that it is all basically hospital cases, not outside labs being counted.
8/5/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
129,288
NC Deaths
2050
Currently Hospitalized
1167 <- 93% reporting (was 1166 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,873,668

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1065 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
311 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+40 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

674 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
1376 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+27)

322 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 170 -> 172
Resident Care 98 -> 98
Correctional 37 -> 39
Other 16 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2039* deaths

1127 positive cases over 19624 new tests. 5.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 19624 but DHHS claims only 19444 completed tests

BACKLOG DAY
Dates of Death Reported 8/5
8/4, 8/3(5), 8/2(4), 8/1(4), 7/31(5), 7/30(4), 7/29(2), 7/28(5), 7/27(3), 7/26, 7/25, 7/24(4), 7/23(2), 7/8 , 7/6, 6/30

One removed on 7/14. I am getting one additional death assigned than should be accounted for, but there could be another removal that I am missing or just a reporting error.

Lowest case reported day since June

Deaths Added by County
Camden(2), Chatham(1), Davie(1), Duplin(1), Forsyth(2), Gaston(1), Granville(1), Guilford(3), Harnett(2), Haywood(1), McDowell(2), Meck(2), New Hanover(1), Richmond(1), Stanly(13)!!!!!!!!, Wake(3), Union(3)

Deaths Removed
Bladen 1

CONGREGATE DEATHS continue to drive the increase. 17 congregate and 10 unknowns reported today.
8/6/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
131,267
NC Deaths
2092
Currently Hospitalized
1147 <- 90% reporting (was 1167 at 93% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,904,750

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1092 Deaths are now Congregate (+27)
316 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

684 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1408 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+32)

327 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 172 -> 175
Resident Care 98 -> 99
Correctional 39 -> 40
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2071* deaths

1979 positive cases over 31028 new tests. 6.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31028 but DHHS claims only 29418 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/6 MORE BACKLOG
8/5(4), 8/4(10), 8/3(4), 8/2(3), 8/1(3), 7/31(3), 7/30, 7/25, 7/23(2), 7/21, 7/20(2), 7/13, 7/10, 7/6(3), 7/5, 7/3, and 6/26

1979 cases.... that is the big drama over not reporting 4 days cases.... as I said, it would be a couple hundred more and not change the trend line.
8/7/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
132,812
NC Deaths
2134
Currently Hospitalized
1123 <- 90% reporting (was 1147 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,939,812

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1112 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
331 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

691 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1443 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+35)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 175 -> 177
Resident Care 99 -> 100
Correctional 40 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2115* deaths

1545 positive cases over 35026 new tests. 4.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 35026 but DHHS claims only 25212 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/7
8/6(4), 8/5(8), 8/4(8), 8/3(3), 8/2, 8/1(4), 7/31(4), 7/30(2), 7/29(2), 7/27, 7/22, 7/21(2), 7/20, 7/18

TWENTY more Congregate deaths and FIFTEEN(!!!!) Unknown. How can you not know where people live? Make a call.

Wake with 27 deaths added the last 2 days.


8/8/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
134,766
NC Deaths
2160
Currently Hospitalized
1129 <- 87% reporting (was 1123 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,969,766

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1118 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+26 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1458 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

329 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 177 -> 174
Resident Care 100 -> 100
Correctional 42 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2158* deaths

1954 positive cases over 29954 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29954 but DHHS claims only 27034 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/8
8/7(7), 8/6(7), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(3), 8/1(4), 7/28, 7/27(2), 7/24

Dates of Deaths REMOVED 8/8
7/18, 6/11

Today was the second worst day for lagged cases in the last month with almost 15% of cases reported today coming 7/29 or earlier.

8/9/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,218
NC Deaths
2168
Currently Hospitalized
1109 <- 84% reporting (was 1129 at 87% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,986,548

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1127 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
339 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1466 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 174 -> 176
Resident Care 100 -> 101
Correctional 42 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2183* deaths

1452 positive cases over 16782 new tests. 8.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16782 but DHHS claims only 16749 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/9 ALL CONGREGATE
8/8, 8/7(3), 8/6, 8/2, 7/18, 7/10

8/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,844
NC Deaths
2172
Currently Hospitalized
1111 <- 84% reporting (was 1109 at 80% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,001,919

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1128 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

704 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1468 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 176
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2189* deaths

626 positive cases over 15371 new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 13392 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/10
8/9(2), 8/7(2)

Lowest cases in forever (6/2). 5% positive on DHHS metric. Lag has bit them in the ass.

Will keep looking. Knew it was going to be low. Thought it would be tomorrow with the low low though. Guess they want it higher tomorrow for briefing day.
8/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
137,895
NC Deaths
2204
Currently Hospitalized
1122 <- 92% reporting (was 1111 at 84% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,017,498

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1140 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
349 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

715 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1489 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

331 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-2)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 173
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 44
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2192* deaths

1051 positive cases over 15579 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 10098 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/11
8/10(5), 8/9(8), 8/8(6), 8/7(3), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(2), 7/31, 7/29, 7/28, 7/27, 7/18, 6/30, 6/28

One death removed on 7/10

Still reviewing
8/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
139,061
NC Deaths
2249
Currently Hospitalized
1062 <- 91% reporting (was 1122 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,823,283 (was 2,017,498 yesterday)

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1159 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
364 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+45 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

726 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1523 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+34)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 173 -> 181
Resident Care 101 -> 104
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2255* deaths

1166 positive cases over 26129* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.
Using DHHS value since delta is MINUS 194215

Delta completed tests -194,215 but DHHS claims only 26129 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/12
WORKING ON IT.

DHHS is blaming LabCorp for the 200000 missing tests CORRECTION, but now we have no idea on today's positive percent.


***? How can they erase almost 200,000 tests (and change no other numbers whatsoever) just out of the blue? That's like 1/10 of ALL the tests done over the entire five (5) month duration of this drama in NC?... and they've been plugging these numbers in DAILY all this time?

Moves the running average on % Positive to it's biggest number since May 12.

Crazy.
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7/31/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
122,148
NC Deaths
1924
Currently Hospitalized
1229 <- 91% reporting (was 1239 at 89% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,757,102

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1010 Deaths are now Congregate (+8)
282 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

632 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1292 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)

309 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 160 -> 164
Resident Care 90 -> 94
Correctional 31 -> 34
Other 16 -> 17
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WRAL is at 1929* deaths

1954 positive cases over 32178 new tests. 6.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 32178 but DHHS claims only 27741 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 7/30 - +21, +2 Previously Missing Date, 1 Death Removed
7/30(2), 7/29(10), 7/28(4), 7/27(2), 7/26, 7/25(3), 7/21, 7/20

1 death removed on 6/25
8/1/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
123,878
NC Deaths
1964
Currently Hospitalized
1151 <- 92% reporting (was 1229 at 91% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,786,412

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1031 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
291 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

642 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1322 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

304 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 164 -> 162
Resident Care 94 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 33
Other 17 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1952* deaths

1730 positive cases over 29310 new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29310 but DHHS claims only 26510 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/1 40 deaths
7/31(6), 7/30(13), 7/29(3), 7/28(5), 7/26(2), 7/25(3), 7/24(3), 7/23, 7/22, 7/21, 7/20, and 7/14

Congregate deaths continue to be through the roof. 116 congregate and 60 unknown deaths reported the last 10 days.

Case reporting lag is getting super tight. Next two days case numbers should plummet.
8/2/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
125,219
NC Deaths
1969
Currently Hospitalized
1142 <- 85% reporting (was 1151 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,813,510

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1033 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
292 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

644 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1325 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

305 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 162
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 33 -> 34
Other 14 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1992* deaths

1341 positive cases over 27098 new tests. 4.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27098 but DHHS claims only 24962 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/2
8/1, 7/31, 7/30, 7/22 and one missing.

Cases by date of specimen keep declining. If they continue to call this 'stabilization' it is a bold faced lie.



8/3/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
126,532
NC Deaths
1982
Currently Hospitalized
1057 <- 79% reporting (was 1142 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,837,410

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1038 Deaths are now Congregate (+5)
295 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+13 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

649 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
1333 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

307 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 163
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 34
Other 14 -> 15
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WRAL is at 2000* deaths

1313 positive cases over 23900 new tests. 5.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 23900 but DHHS claims only 20378 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/3
8/2(2), 8/1(7), 7/31, 7/30, 7/29, and 7/26
They also removed 1 death from the missing dates of death tally, but I couldn't locate a 14th death assigned.

RE: Hospitalizations. Someone big in the Triad likely missed reporting. Their numbers dropped too far in one day to be organic. I would figure at least 80 additional if the missing hospital was in.
8/4/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
128,161
NC Deaths
2010
Currently Hospitalized
1166 <- 92% reporting (was 1057 at 79% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,854,026

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1048 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
301 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

661 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

321 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+14)
Nursing Homes 163 -> 170
Resident Care 95 -> 98
Correctional 34 -> 37
Other 15 -> 16
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WRAL is at 2015* deaths

1629 positive cases over 16616 new tests. 9.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16616 but DHHS claims only 9667 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/4
8/3(2), 8/2(8), 8/1(9), 7/31(1), 7/30(3), 7/21, 7/19, 7/14, 7/2, and 1 added to Missing DoD.


Cases are higher than I would have guessed for lag. I think the case numbers are being bumped some by outbreak testing. A number of new correctional and nursing outbreaks caught. Did a quick glance down county data, and other than Meck posting a little higher than average lately (around 300 cases) most of the other case increases are from smaller counties having slightly higher case totals reported.

The amount of tests done is obscenely low and shows that it is all basically hospital cases, not outside labs being counted.
8/5/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
129,288
NC Deaths
2050
Currently Hospitalized
1167 <- 93% reporting (was 1166 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,873,668

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1065 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
311 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+40 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

674 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
1376 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+27)

322 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 170 -> 172
Resident Care 98 -> 98
Correctional 37 -> 39
Other 16 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2039* deaths

1127 positive cases over 19624 new tests. 5.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 19624 but DHHS claims only 19444 completed tests

BACKLOG DAY
Dates of Death Reported 8/5
8/4, 8/3(5), 8/2(4), 8/1(4), 7/31(5), 7/30(4), 7/29(2), 7/28(5), 7/27(3), 7/26, 7/25, 7/24(4), 7/23(2), 7/8 , 7/6, 6/30

One removed on 7/14. I am getting one additional death assigned than should be accounted for, but there could be another removal that I am missing or just a reporting error.

Lowest case reported day since June

Deaths Added by County
Camden(2), Chatham(1), Davie(1), Duplin(1), Forsyth(2), Gaston(1), Granville(1), Guilford(3), Harnett(2), Haywood(1), McDowell(2), Meck(2), New Hanover(1), Richmond(1), Stanly(13)!!!!!!!!, Wake(3), Union(3)

Deaths Removed
Bladen 1

CONGREGATE DEATHS continue to drive the increase. 17 congregate and 10 unknowns reported today.
8/6/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
131,267
NC Deaths
2092
Currently Hospitalized
1147 <- 90% reporting (was 1167 at 93% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,904,750

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1092 Deaths are now Congregate (+27)
316 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

684 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1408 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+32)

327 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 172 -> 175
Resident Care 98 -> 99
Correctional 39 -> 40
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2071* deaths

1979 positive cases over 31028 new tests. 6.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31028 but DHHS claims only 29418 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/6 MORE BACKLOG
8/5(4), 8/4(10), 8/3(4), 8/2(3), 8/1(3), 7/31(3), 7/30, 7/25, 7/23(2), 7/21, 7/20(2), 7/13, 7/10, 7/6(3), 7/5, 7/3, and 6/26

1979 cases.... that is the big drama over not reporting 4 days cases.... as I said, it would be a couple hundred more and not change the trend line.
8/7/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
132,812
NC Deaths
2134
Currently Hospitalized
1123 <- 90% reporting (was 1147 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,939,812

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1112 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
331 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

691 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1443 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+35)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 175 -> 177
Resident Care 99 -> 100
Correctional 40 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2115* deaths

1545 positive cases over 35026 new tests. 4.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 35026 but DHHS claims only 25212 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/7
8/6(4), 8/5(8), 8/4(8), 8/3(3), 8/2, 8/1(4), 7/31(4), 7/30(2), 7/29(2), 7/27, 7/22, 7/21(2), 7/20, 7/18

TWENTY more Congregate deaths and FIFTEEN(!!!!) Unknown. How can you not know where people live? Make a call.

Wake with 27 deaths added the last 2 days.


8/8/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
134,766
NC Deaths
2160
Currently Hospitalized
1129 <- 87% reporting (was 1123 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,969,766

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1118 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+26 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1458 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

329 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 177 -> 174
Resident Care 100 -> 100
Correctional 42 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2158* deaths

1954 positive cases over 29954 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29954 but DHHS claims only 27034 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/8
8/7(7), 8/6(7), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(3), 8/1(4), 7/28, 7/27(2), 7/24

Dates of Deaths REMOVED 8/8
7/18, 6/11

Today was the second worst day for lagged cases in the last month with almost 15% of cases reported today coming 7/29 or earlier.

8/9/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,218
NC Deaths
2168
Currently Hospitalized
1109 <- 84% reporting (was 1129 at 87% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,986,548

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1127 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
339 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1466 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 174 -> 176
Resident Care 100 -> 101
Correctional 42 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2183* deaths

1452 positive cases over 16782 new tests. 8.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16782 but DHHS claims only 16749 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/9 ALL CONGREGATE
8/8, 8/7(3), 8/6, 8/2, 7/18, 7/10

8/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,844
NC Deaths
2172
Currently Hospitalized
1111 <- 84% reporting (was 1109 at 80% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,001,919

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1128 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

704 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1468 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 176
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2189* deaths

626 positive cases over 15371 new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 13392 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/10
8/9(2), 8/7(2)

Lowest cases in forever (6/2). 5% positive on DHHS metric. Lag has bit them in the ass.

Will keep looking. Knew it was going to be low. Thought it would be tomorrow with the low low though. Guess they want it higher tomorrow for briefing day.
8/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
137,895
NC Deaths
2204
Currently Hospitalized
1122 <- 92% reporting (was 1111 at 84% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,017,498

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1140 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
349 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

715 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1489 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

331 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-2)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 173
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 44
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2192* deaths

1051 positive cases over 15579 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 10098 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/11
8/10(5), 8/9(8), 8/8(6), 8/7(3), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(2), 7/31, 7/29, 7/28, 7/27, 7/18, 6/30, 6/28

One death removed on 7/10

Still reviewing
8/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
139,061
NC Deaths
2249
Currently Hospitalized
1062 <- 91% reporting (was 1122 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,823,283 (was 2,017,498 yesterday)

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1159 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
364 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+45 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

726 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1523 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+34)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 173 -> 181
Resident Care 101 -> 104
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2255* deaths

1166 positive cases over 26129* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.
Using DHHS value since delta is MINUS 194215

Delta completed tests -194,215 but DHHS claims only 26129 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/12
WORKING ON IT.

DHHS is blaming LabCorp for the 200000 missing tests CORRECTION, but now we have no idea on today's positive percent.


***? How can they erase almost 200,000 tests (and change no other numbers whatsoever) just out of the blue? That's like 1/10 of ALL the tests done over the entire five (5) month duration of this drama in NC?... and they've been plugging these numbers in DAILY all this time?

Moves the running average on % Positive to it's biggest number since May 12.

Crazy.
It doesn't even work. It just ****s up all the trend line for percent positive now, unless you can go back and filter it all.
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7/31/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
122,148
NC Deaths
1924
Currently Hospitalized
1229 <- 91% reporting (was 1239 at 89% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,757,102

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1010 Deaths are now Congregate (+8)
282 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

632 Deaths assumed General Population (+8)
1292 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+13)

309 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 160 -> 164
Resident Care 90 -> 94
Correctional 31 -> 34
Other 16 -> 17
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WRAL is at 1929* deaths

1954 positive cases over 32178 new tests. 6.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 32178 but DHHS claims only 27741 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 7/30 - +21, +2 Previously Missing Date, 1 Death Removed
7/30(2), 7/29(10), 7/28(4), 7/27(2), 7/26, 7/25(3), 7/21, 7/20

1 death removed on 6/25
8/1/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
123,878
NC Deaths
1964
Currently Hospitalized
1151 <- 92% reporting (was 1229 at 91% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,786,412

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1031 Deaths are now Congregate (+21)
291 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+21 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

642 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1322 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+30)

304 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-5)
Nursing Homes 164 -> 162
Resident Care 94 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 33
Other 17 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1952* deaths

1730 positive cases over 29310 new tests. 5.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29310 but DHHS claims only 26510 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/1 40 deaths
7/31(6), 7/30(13), 7/29(3), 7/28(5), 7/26(2), 7/25(3), 7/24(3), 7/23, 7/22, 7/21, 7/20, and 7/14

Congregate deaths continue to be through the roof. 116 congregate and 60 unknown deaths reported the last 10 days.

Case reporting lag is getting super tight. Next two days case numbers should plummet.
8/2/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
125,219
NC Deaths
1969
Currently Hospitalized
1142 <- 85% reporting (was 1151 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,813,510

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1033 Deaths are now Congregate (+2)
292 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+5 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

644 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1325 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+3)

305 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 162
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 33 -> 34
Other 14 -> 14
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WRAL is at 1992* deaths

1341 positive cases over 27098 new tests. 4.9% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 27098 but DHHS claims only 24962 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/2
8/1, 7/31, 7/30, 7/22 and one missing.

Cases by date of specimen keep declining. If they continue to call this 'stabilization' it is a bold faced lie.



8/3/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
126,532
NC Deaths
1982
Currently Hospitalized
1057 <- 79% reporting (was 1142 at 85% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,837,410

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1038 Deaths are now Congregate (+5)
295 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+3)
+13 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

649 Deaths assumed General Population (+5)
1333 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

307 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+2)
Nursing Homes 162 -> 163
Resident Care 95 -> 95
Correctional 34 -> 34
Other 14 -> 15
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WRAL is at 2000* deaths

1313 positive cases over 23900 new tests. 5.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 23900 but DHHS claims only 20378 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/3
8/2(2), 8/1(7), 7/31, 7/30, 7/29, and 7/26
They also removed 1 death from the missing dates of death tally, but I couldn't locate a 14th death assigned.

RE: Hospitalizations. Someone big in the Triad likely missed reporting. Their numbers dropped too far in one day to be organic. I would figure at least 80 additional if the missing hospital was in.
8/4/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
128,161
NC Deaths
2010
Currently Hospitalized
1166 <- 92% reporting (was 1057 at 79% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,854,026

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1048 Deaths are now Congregate (+10)
301 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+6)
+28 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

661 Deaths assumed General Population (+12)
1349 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+16)

321 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+14)
Nursing Homes 163 -> 170
Resident Care 95 -> 98
Correctional 34 -> 37
Other 15 -> 16
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WRAL is at 2015* deaths

1629 positive cases over 16616 new tests. 9.8% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16616 but DHHS claims only 9667 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/4
8/3(2), 8/2(8), 8/1(9), 7/31(1), 7/30(3), 7/21, 7/19, 7/14, 7/2, and 1 added to Missing DoD.


Cases are higher than I would have guessed for lag. I think the case numbers are being bumped some by outbreak testing. A number of new correctional and nursing outbreaks caught. Did a quick glance down county data, and other than Meck posting a little higher than average lately (around 300 cases) most of the other case increases are from smaller counties having slightly higher case totals reported.

The amount of tests done is obscenely low and shows that it is all basically hospital cases, not outside labs being counted.
8/5/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
129,288
NC Deaths
2050
Currently Hospitalized
1167 <- 93% reporting (was 1166 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,873,668

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1065 Deaths are now Congregate (+17)
311 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+10)
+40 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

674 Deaths assumed General Population (+13)
1376 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+27)

322 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+1)
Nursing Homes 170 -> 172
Resident Care 98 -> 98
Correctional 37 -> 39
Other 16 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2039* deaths

1127 positive cases over 19624 new tests. 5.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 19624 but DHHS claims only 19444 completed tests

BACKLOG DAY
Dates of Death Reported 8/5
8/4, 8/3(5), 8/2(4), 8/1(4), 7/31(5), 7/30(4), 7/29(2), 7/28(5), 7/27(3), 7/26, 7/25, 7/24(4), 7/23(2), 7/8 , 7/6, 6/30

One removed on 7/14. I am getting one additional death assigned than should be accounted for, but there could be another removal that I am missing or just a reporting error.

Lowest case reported day since June

Deaths Added by County
Camden(2), Chatham(1), Davie(1), Duplin(1), Forsyth(2), Gaston(1), Granville(1), Guilford(3), Harnett(2), Haywood(1), McDowell(2), Meck(2), New Hanover(1), Richmond(1), Stanly(13)!!!!!!!!, Wake(3), Union(3)

Deaths Removed
Bladen 1

CONGREGATE DEATHS continue to drive the increase. 17 congregate and 10 unknowns reported today.
8/6/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
131,267
NC Deaths
2092
Currently Hospitalized
1147 <- 90% reporting (was 1167 at 93% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,904,750

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1092 Deaths are now Congregate (+27)
316 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+5)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

684 Deaths assumed General Population (+10)
1408 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+32)

327 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 172 -> 175
Resident Care 98 -> 99
Correctional 39 -> 40
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2071* deaths

1979 positive cases over 31028 new tests. 6.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 31028 but DHHS claims only 29418 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/6 MORE BACKLOG
8/5(4), 8/4(10), 8/3(4), 8/2(3), 8/1(3), 7/31(3), 7/30, 7/25, 7/23(2), 7/21, 7/20(2), 7/13, 7/10, 7/6(3), 7/5, 7/3, and 6/26

1979 cases.... that is the big drama over not reporting 4 days cases.... as I said, it would be a couple hundred more and not change the trend line.
8/7/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
132,812
NC Deaths
2134
Currently Hospitalized
1123 <- 90% reporting (was 1147 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,939,812

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1112 Deaths are now Congregate (+20)
331 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+42 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

691 Deaths assumed General Population (+7)
1443 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+35)

332 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+5)
Nursing Homes 175 -> 177
Resident Care 99 -> 100
Correctional 40 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2115* deaths

1545 positive cases over 35026 new tests. 4.4% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 35026 but DHHS claims only 25212 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/7
8/6(4), 8/5(8), 8/4(8), 8/3(3), 8/2, 8/1(4), 7/31(4), 7/30(2), 7/29(2), 7/27, 7/22, 7/21(2), 7/20, 7/18

TWENTY more Congregate deaths and FIFTEEN(!!!!) Unknown. How can you not know where people live? Make a call.

Wake with 27 deaths added the last 2 days.


8/8/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
134,766
NC Deaths
2160
Currently Hospitalized
1129 <- 87% reporting (was 1123 at 90% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,969,766

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1118 Deaths are now Congregate (+6)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+26 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1458 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+15)

329 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-3)
Nursing Homes 177 -> 174
Resident Care 100 -> 100
Correctional 42 -> 42
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2158* deaths

1954 positive cases over 29954 new tests. 6.5% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 29954 but DHHS claims only 27034 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/8
8/7(7), 8/6(7), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(3), 8/1(4), 7/28, 7/27(2), 7/24

Dates of Deaths REMOVED 8/8
7/18, 6/11

Today was the second worst day for lagged cases in the last month with almost 15% of cases reported today coming 7/29 or earlier.

8/9/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,218
NC Deaths
2168
Currently Hospitalized
1109 <- 84% reporting (was 1129 at 87% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,986,548

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1127 Deaths are now Congregate (+9)
339 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (-1)
+8 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

702 Deaths assumed General Population (+0)
1466 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+8)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+4)
Nursing Homes 174 -> 176
Resident Care 100 -> 101
Correctional 42 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2183* deaths

1452 positive cases over 16782 new tests. 8.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 16782 but DHHS claims only 16749 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/9 ALL CONGREGATE
8/8, 8/7(3), 8/6, 8/2, 7/18, 7/10

8/10/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
136,844
NC Deaths
2172
Currently Hospitalized
1111 <- 84% reporting (was 1109 at 80% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,001,919

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1128 Deaths are now Congregate (+1)
340 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+1)
+4 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

704 Deaths assumed General Population (+2)
1468 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+2)

333 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+0)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 176
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 43
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2189* deaths

626 positive cases over 15371 new tests. 4.1% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 13392 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/10
8/9(2), 8/7(2)

Lowest cases in forever (6/2). 5% positive on DHHS metric. Lag has bit them in the ass.

Will keep looking. Knew it was going to be low. Thought it would be tomorrow with the low low though. Guess they want it higher tomorrow for briefing day.
8/11/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
137,895
NC Deaths
2204
Currently Hospitalized
1122 <- 92% reporting (was 1111 at 84% yesterday)
Completed Tests
2,017,498

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1140 Deaths are now Congregate (+12)
349 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+9)
+32 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

715 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1489 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+21)

331 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (-2)
Nursing Homes 176 -> 173
Resident Care 101 -> 101
Correctional 43 -> 44
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2192* deaths

1051 positive cases over 15579 new tests. 6.7% positive rate.

Delta completed tests 15371 but DHHS claims only 10098 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/11
8/10(5), 8/9(8), 8/8(6), 8/7(3), 8/5, 8/4, 8/3(2), 7/31, 7/29, 7/28, 7/27, 7/18, 6/30, 6/28

One death removed on 7/10

Still reviewing
8/12/2020 Morning DHHS update

NC Cases
139,061
NC Deaths
2249
Currently Hospitalized
1062 <- 91% reporting (was 1122 at 92% yesterday)
Completed Tests
1,823,283 (was 2,017,498 yesterday)

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1159 Deaths are now Congregate (+19)
364 Deaths are now Unknown Setting (+15)
+45 Deaths Overall since yesterday.

726 Deaths assumed General Population (+11)
1523 Congregate and Unknown Setting. (+34)

343 Congregate Facilities now have an outbreak. (+12)
Nursing Homes 173 -> 181
Resident Care 101 -> 104
Correctional 44 -> 45
Other 13 -> 13
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WRAL is at 2255* deaths

1166 positive cases over 26129* new tests. 4.5% positive rate.
Using DHHS value since delta is MINUS 194215

Delta completed tests -194,215 but DHHS claims only 26129 completed tests

Dates of Death Reported 8/12
WORKING ON IT.

DHHS is blaming LabCorp for the 200000 missing tests CORRECTION, but now we have no idea on today's positive percent.


***? How can they erase almost 200,000 tests (and change no other numbers whatsoever) just out of the blue? That's like 1/10 of ALL the tests done over the entire five (5) month duration of this drama in NC?... and they've been plugging these numbers in DAILY all this time?

Moves the running average on % Positive to it's biggest number since May 12.

Crazy.
It doesn't even work. It just ****s up all the trend line for percent positive now, unless you can go back and filter it all.
No doubt. It just renders all your hard work up to this point as useless... there is no way possible that this can be legit. A Republican would get absolutely skewered by the media if they presided over this function...
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https://www.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-releases/ncdhhs-corrects-covid-19-testing-totals-after-identifying-labcorp-reporting

Quote:

"Although this reporting error impacts our count of total tests completed, it does not alter our key metrics or change our understanding of COVID-19 transmission in North Carolina, which shows stabilization over the last few weeks," said NCDHHS Secretary Mandy Cohen, M.D.

"NCDHHS is committed to data transparency and data accuracy as part of our COVID-19 response."

Make all the data public if you are transparent.

And stable, huh? Interesting.

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So the almost 200,000 tests that have been removed were all reported as "negative" test results?
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Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
I am sure they will continue to blame LabCorp and take no responsibility for the data they post to the dash board and the fact they missed hundreds of thousands of tests being added in error.

Do they really not have a handle on what is going on in the state? If they had caught it in June when the numbers started getting big, no harm. But they missed over 200,000 tests.

Oh this is great.... from WRAL:
Quote:

"Cohen said the reason for the decline in testing corrections aside wasn't entirely clear. After a reported slowdown in test turnaround time, she said some patients may have been less inclined to seek testing for COVID-19."


Cohen thinks 'test turnaround time' is the reason less people are seeking tests, not LESS SICK PEOPLE.
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Wayland said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
I am sure they will continue to blame LabCorp and take no responsibility for the data they post to the dash board and the fact they missed hundreds of thousands of tests being added in error.

Do they really not have a handle on what is going on in the state? If they had caught it in June when the numbers started getting big, no harm. But they missed over 200,000 tests.

Oh this is great.... from WRAL:
Quote:

"Cohen said the reason for the decline in testing corrections aside wasn't entirely clear. After a reported slowdown in test turnaround time, she said some patients may have been less inclined to seek testing for COVID-19."


Cohen thinks 'test turnaround time' is the reason less people are seeking tests, not LESS SICK PEOPLE.
Of course not. That would make way too much sense and wouldn't fit the narrative.
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TheStorm said:

So the almost 200,000 tests that have been removed were all reported as "negative" test results?


This is what I need clarification on too. Wayland?
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DrummerboyWolf said:

Wayland said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
I am sure they will continue to blame LabCorp and take no responsibility for the data they post to the dash board and the fact they missed hundreds of thousands of tests being added in error.

Do they really not have a handle on what is going on in the state? If they had caught it in June when the numbers started getting big, no harm. But they missed over 200,000 tests.

Oh this is great.... from WRAL:
Quote:

"Cohen said the reason for the decline in testing corrections aside wasn't entirely clear. After a reported slowdown in test turnaround time, she said some patients may have been less inclined to seek testing for COVID-19."


Cohen thinks 'test turnaround time' is the reason less people are seeking tests, not LESS SICK PEOPLE.
Of course not. That would make way too much sense and wouldn't fit the narrative.
Should we take any positive out of the hospitalization #s being down a bit, or is that a lag too? Seems logical that at some point, if cases are decreasing, so too should hospitilizations?
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Packchem91 said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Wayland said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
I am sure they will continue to blame LabCorp and take no responsibility for the data they post to the dash board and the fact they missed hundreds of thousands of tests being added in error.

Do they really not have a handle on what is going on in the state? If they had caught it in June when the numbers started getting big, no harm. But they missed over 200,000 tests.

Oh this is great.... from WRAL:
Quote:

"Cohen said the reason for the decline in testing corrections aside wasn't entirely clear. After a reported slowdown in test turnaround time, she said some patients may have been less inclined to seek testing for COVID-19."


Cohen thinks 'test turnaround time' is the reason less people are seeking tests, not LESS SICK PEOPLE.
Of course not. That would make way too much sense and wouldn't fit the narrative.
Should we take any positive out of the hospitalization #s being down a bit, or is that a lag too? Seems logical that at some point, if cases are decreasing, so too should hospitilizations?
It is a positive, but Cohen would probably attribute it to ED waiting times. I would expect they should continue to follow the case curves down.
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Wayland said:

Packchem91 said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Wayland said:

DrummerboyWolf said:

Just saw on WRAL-TV a story on "Error in testing reports." Not sure if the video is up now and I am not listening but this should be good CYA for Cooper and Cohen.
I am sure they will continue to blame LabCorp and take no responsibility for the data they post to the dash board and the fact they missed hundreds of thousands of tests being added in error.

Do they really not have a handle on what is going on in the state? If they had caught it in June when the numbers started getting big, no harm. But they missed over 200,000 tests.

Oh this is great.... from WRAL:
Quote:

"Cohen said the reason for the decline in testing corrections aside wasn't entirely clear. After a reported slowdown in test turnaround time, she said some patients may have been less inclined to seek testing for COVID-19."


Cohen thinks 'test turnaround time' is the reason less people are seeking tests, not LESS SICK PEOPLE.
Of course not. That would make way too much sense and wouldn't fit the narrative.
Should we take any positive out of the hospitalization #s being down a bit, or is that a lag too? Seems logical that at some point, if cases are decreasing, so too should hospitilizations?
It is a positive, but Cohen would probably attribute it to ED waiting times. I would expect they should continue to follow the case curves down.
That's the luxury Cohen has had....she can make the #s say anything she wants, and the lapdogs just drink it down.
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Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
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ncsualum05 said:

Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
I don't, but I don't think that there will be any give on Phase 2 because of:

  • Schools opening (expecting numbers to go up)
  • "Phase II restrictions are working, so we can't let up now"
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statefan91 said:

ncsualum05 said:

Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
I don't, but I don't think that there will be any give on Phase 2 because of:

  • Schools opening (expecting numbers to go up)
  • "Phase II restrictions are working, so we can't let up now"

means there will be no fans if there is a football season in a few weeks, they got pissy at Ace speedway, no way they stay in phase 2 and allow ACC Football to let fans in, that would just open themselves up to lawsuits from every business.
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This is where some sort of statement by LabCorp would be extremely helpful. *** happened with these tests? Is it a one-time correction? Part of a larger testing issue? We sure as **** know DHHS won't be transparent about it.
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mdreid said:

statefan91 said:

ncsualum05 said:

Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
I don't, but I don't think that there will be any give on Phase 2 because of:

  • Schools opening (expecting numbers to go up)
  • "Phase II restrictions are working, so we can't let up now"

means there will be no fans if there is a football season in a few weeks, they got pissy at Ace speedway, no way they stay in phase 2 and allow ACC Football to let fans in, that would just open themselves up to lawsuits from every business.
I think I have a solution for watching the Pack. We say we're protesting social justice and we have blackouts at all the home games. Just wear your darker NC State shirts. Players can wear black uniforms. Who's with me!

(Disclaimer: lets not tear up or burn C-F though)
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mdreid said:

statefan91 said:

ncsualum05 said:

Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
I don't, but I don't think that there will be any give on Phase 2 because of:

  • Schools opening (expecting numbers to go up)
  • "Phase II restrictions are working, so we can't let up now"

means there will be no fans if there is a football season in a few weeks, they got pissy at Ace speedway, no way they stay in phase 2 and allow ACC Football to let fans in, that would just open themselves up to lawsuits from every business.
I think I have a solution for watching the Pack. We say we're protesting social justice and we have blackouts at all the home games. Just wear your darker NC State shirts. Players can wear black uniforms. Who's with me!

(Disclaimer: lets not tear up or burn C-F though)
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ncsualum05 said:

mdreid said:

statefan91 said:

ncsualum05 said:

Do you think they will try to convince people that down is up on the graph in the next couple weeks?
I don't, but I don't think that there will be any give on Phase 2 because of:

  • Schools opening (expecting numbers to go up)
  • "Phase II restrictions are working, so we can't let up now"

means there will be no fans if there is a football season in a few weeks, they got pissy at Ace speedway, no way they stay in phase 2 and allow ACC Football to let fans in, that would just open themselves up to lawsuits from every business.
I think I have a solution for watching the Pack. We say we're protesting social justice and we have blackouts at all the home games. Just wear your darker NC State shirts. Players can wear black uniforms. Who's with me!

(Disclaimer: lets not tear up or burn C-F though)
Governor Cooper would declare it a riot because we would not be "peacefully protesting" the opposing team. I like the idea though and I will gladly go and protest "wokeness" and social justice.
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In light of the NCHSAA decision on fall sports, here is a coach from Pennsylvania telling all the truths.

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Watched last night's UNC TV interview with Cohen. In the world of ever shifting goal posts, she is now claiming that Phase 2 was extended so that they could see the effects of school openings on case counts. Just making stuff up as they go along.

I don't recall that being given as a reason a week ago in the briefing.
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Wayland said:

Watched last night's UNC TV interview with Cohen. In the world of ever shifting goal posts, she is now claiming that Phase 2 was extended so that they could see the effects of school openings on case counts. Just making stuff up as they go along.

I don't recall that being given as a reason a week ago in the briefing.
It wasn't a reason explicitly given, but most assumed that is why they went with 5 weeks instead of whatever had been the standard, I think 3?
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So how the hell are we supposed to track any of this anymore after five (5) months spent watching and attempting to analyze data? Seriously? What do we do now? Just start over?

It's just funny that they've been plugging data in every single day and never made any effort to confirm that it was correct (until the data doesn't fit into the narrative anymore)... it's absolutely mindnumbing...

And then Cohen is so ho-hum about it. It's like she knows she can say pretty much anything and not really be questioned by our state media... why is that? I really don't understand that.
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He mentioned Bedford, which is approx. half way between Pittsburgh and Harrisburg.
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I've given up on the numbers. It's been a valiant effort from Wayland and DavieWolf and others, but the numbers are going to be whatever they need them to be. That has become clear.
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wilmwolf80 said:

I've given up on the numbers. It's been a valiant effort from Wayland and DavieWolf and others, but the numbers are going to be whatever they need them to be. That has become clear.

That being said. Today will be the highest number of reported cases this week since the primary day it is collecting from is Monday (typically the highest case day).

Guess who finally scheduled another media briefing today!
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Wayland said:

Watched last night's UNC TV interview with Cohen. In the world of ever shifting goal posts, she is now claiming that Phase 2 was extended so that they could see the effects of school openings on case counts. Just making stuff up as they go along.

I don't recall that being given as a reason a week ago in the briefing.

They did highlight that was one of the reasons. Other than that, it was a bunch of rambling.

I read somewhere where the state started getting tests from LabCorp in early April. How in the hell did it take 4 months to realize they miscalculated the amount of tests?

The NCDHHS notes this miscalculation doesn't effect the key metrics, how the hell does it not? That's 10(!) percent of total tests that have been performed in NC.
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wolfman18 said:

Wayland said:

Watched last night's UNC TV interview with Cohen. In the world of ever shifting goal posts, she is now claiming that Phase 2 was extended so that they could see the effects of school openings on case counts. Just making stuff up as they go along.

I don't recall that being given as a reason a week ago in the briefing.

They did highlight that was one of the reasons. Other than that, it was a bunch of rambling.

I read somewhere where the state started getting tests from LabCorp in early April. How in the hell did it take 4 months to realize they miscalculated the amount of tests?

The NCDHHS notes this miscalculation doesn't effect the key metrics, how the hell does it not? That's 10(!) percent of total tests that have been performed in NC.
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