Alex Gee said:

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Cthepack said:

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Alex Gee said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!

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Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.

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Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!

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Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…

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There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.

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And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.

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Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.

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You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can

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They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.

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In March.

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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Alex Gee said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!

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Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.

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Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!

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Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…

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There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.

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And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.

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Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.

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You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can

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They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.

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Ironic you telling anyone to stop it, no?!? Lol

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Cthepack said:

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Alex Gee said:

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Cthepack said:

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Alex Gee said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Cthepack said:

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Hard to believe if UNC wins their series against Stanford they win the title this year!

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Or if the third game against us wasn't rained out.

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Games played only matter. But good try.

How the hell do they lose to Stanford. Getting shut out last game of series to god awful Stanford acc era!!

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Well you started the whataboutisms. You could have just as easily said if we hadn't gotten beat by Pitt or Duke since you're what if'ing. We were leaking oil big time across the finish line. Pitching overall was good enough but the hitting since Clemson has been abysmal. No need to what if…

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There is a specific reason I chose Stanford and UNC winning 1 or 3 at home against them. Maybe you can figure out why.

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And my point is when you're this close there are 100 different things we could have done that you could point to to get a win or two more. But we didn't. And at this point none of it matters. We didn't get it done. Hopefully we take advantage of the double bye out of the 4 seed and win the tournament to claim a host spot in the NCAA's.

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Only thing that mattered was the double bye. This missed opportunity to win a recently made up "regular" season title and all the mad fans in an uproar is crazy. Where were all you guys when we got swept by Miami?

Btw we are .500 against the top 4 seeds.

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You know what's not mutually exclusive? Winning the regular season and locking down the one seed against the bottom feeder of the ACC and whatever the hell EA ranted about last night.

We weren't saving arms, poured it out and lost because we couldn't hit an atrocious pitching staff who was trying tot throw everyone on their roster and hand us wins.

ETA: Said as respectfully as I can

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They shut out, gave up zero runs to UNC. Very hard to do in college baseball.

I get being upset. But the continued discussion is annoying. Point was made after your first 5 posts about their pitching.

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In March.

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So I guess baseball is a streaky sport right?

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ChemE94 said:

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This has been the worst collective hitting display with some of the worst situational hitting/at bats I've ever seen an NC State team turn in. Losing this series is like losing to wake forest in football several years ago when they were down to like their 3rd qb when a win would have gotten us in the championship game. Just about as bad as it gets.

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I'll take it a step further. This is the worst hitting team we have seen from Avent/Hart is 10 years.

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only thing is the stats say you're wrong...

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Haha please quote me some stats. We can argue all you want. But you're wrong on this one. Avent has had sticks every year for the past 10 years. This is by far the worst hitting team he has had since Rodons last year.

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Nope, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong, I get it, you're upset about the game today. But stop while you're ahead (behind).

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Has nothing to do with being upset today.

Last years team hits circles around this team.

23 with Groover, Peebles, Cozart
22 Tommy White, Groover
21… enough said. 20 Covid.
19 Patrick Bailey, Will Wilson
18 Bailey, Wilson, Evan Edwards etc…
17 Wilson, Dunnad, McLain, Kinneman
16 Palmerio, Kizner, Dunnad

Please tell me which of those teams is a worse hitting team than this one?

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Don't know why everyone does this with CLT like it'll ever be a productive conversation. He'll just say inane, troll bull**** until you lose your cool and then he gets to claim a victory because he'll offer you an internet hug bc you're big mad. He's the Ovies of the boards. Don't feed the trolls.

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Thank you for saying that. I didn't realize. And no one was chiming in so I thought I was going crazy

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We will become a warm weather Boston College. What Avent has done given what we provide him is nothing short of remarkable

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I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.

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With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.

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Except that there is a ton of talent in NC and barely any in Mass.

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We are barely getting nc talent that matters right now.

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ChemE94 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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Nairo said:

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We will become a warm weather Boston College. What Avent has done given what we provide him is nothing short of remarkable

ChemE94 said:

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I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.

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With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.

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Except that there is a ton of talent in NC and barely any in Mass.

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We are barely getting nc talent that matters right now.

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Oh I agree but there is no excuse for it.

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There is an excuse for it, and it's that we can't afford it. That was my initial point. Avent is making do with what he has and has actually done a REALLY good job of making chicken salad from chicken $h!t, which is pretty tough to do. The likelihood that the next coach could do better, given the circumstances, is super low. I've said it before, but collectively, we have caviar taste and a taco bell budget.

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CLTWolf said:

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I'm fine to use statistics as long as we can agree that they don't always tell the fully story. As offense has surged due to bats and balls.

For example in 2019 Patrick Bailey and 2025 Brayden Frassman had similar offensive years statistically. But no sane person would agree that are equal hitters.

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Good lord.

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Do you disagree?

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lol

Do I disagree with your cherry picking and wanting to dismiss actual data? Yeah, I prolly do. Lol


You're trying to deflect this away from your original statement of this being the worst hitting team over some such of a timeframe. lol

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No I am not. I am consistently asked which team you felt was a worse hitting team? And you have yet to answer

Pick and year and we will discuss.

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I put out a post with the data. Go read it. lol

Stop deflecting. lol


How bout this…the 2021 team was the best lineup ever. Cool?

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Avent on winning a ACC regular season title: "That's for the fans. That's what the fans talk about. You know me. I always talk about going to postseason and having a chance to play for a national championship. Who won tonight? I have no idea."

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ChemE94 said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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ChemE94 said:

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StateFan2001 said:

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Nairo said:

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We will become a warm weather Boston College. What Avent has done given what we provide him is nothing short of remarkable

ChemE94 said:

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I've never been a "fire Avent" guy, but it may be time to retire. Very good skipper, and has done a lot without great resources, but it's been 30 years and 0 trophies.

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With our lack of commitment to facilities and nil, I'm actually terrified of what the future for baseball looks like post EA, whenever that is. I hope it's not soon because it's likely to get ugly after he goes.

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Except that there is a ton of talent in NC and barely any in Mass.

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We are barely getting nc talent that matters right now.

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Oh I agree but there is no excuse for it.

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There is an excuse for it, and it's that we can't afford it. That was my initial point. Avent is making do with what he has and has actually done a REALLY good job of making chicken salad from chicken $h!t, which is pretty tough to do. The likelihood that the next coach could do better, given the circumstances, is super low. I've said it before, but collectively, we have caviar taste and a taco bell budget.

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This is where I disagree. We don't have a single highly recruited player from NC in our lineup. That is inexcusable with the talent in this state.

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And why do you think that is- You think Avent Chrysler and Hart don't want the best kids in the state or aren't recruiting them?

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