ELECTION 2020

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This is so true...


On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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I said he was going to jail on this forum before Jan. 6th 2021. After that I thought he should be tried for treason. Trump is going to jail and I say about damn time. The arguments that he is going after parts of the "system" to help ordinary Americans is a ruse. The only thing he wants is power. He has been indicted on trying to overturn an election. How can any one defend him if you saw the things he tried to do. It was a clown show. Rudy, Sydney lady and him telling lie after lie. With not a shred of evidence. None. Just lies that they told and spread.
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

I said he was going to jail on this forum before Jan. 6th 2021. After that I thought he should be tried for treason. Trump is going to jail and I say about damn time. The arguments that he is going after parts of the "system" to help ordinary Americans is a ruse. The only thing he wants is power. He has been indicted on trying to overturn an election. How can any one defend him if you saw the things he tried to do. It was a clown show. Rudy, Sydney lady and him telling lie after lie. With not a shred of evidence. None. Just lies that they told and spread.


You could say the exact same thing about the Biden admin "clown show" esp the "all they want is power" bit... I mean good lord that is as obvious as ever.

Im not sure how anybody could defend Biden and those around him. I dont meet anybody in day to day work or friends groups that support Joe or atleast admit to doing so.

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Wolfpackrich1 said:

I said he was going to jail on this forum before Jan. 6th 2021. After that I thought he should be tried for treason. Trump is going to jail and I say about damn time. The arguments that he is going after parts of the "system" to help ordinary Americans is a ruse. The only thing he wants is power. He has been indicted on trying to overturn an election. How can any one defend him if you saw the things he tried to do. It was a clown show. Rudy, Sydney lady and him telling lie after lie. With not a shred of evidence. None. Just lies that they told and spread.
You know, Rich…. Are you ready for a trial of the century? Remember, the Trump lawyers will be able to bring anyone, they want to testify, under oath. They will have full subpoena power, for anything! There are plenty of Trump supporters that will know all the skeletons and will be placing them on the table, for everyone to see.

The biggest challenge, for Trump, is to get the venue moved. He will not get a fair trial, in DC. Also, the Judge will try and limit his access to the above.

For me, the more I read, about this, the more I think… bring it on! If, and that's a big if, the judge is forced to play fair, this will be the biggest undoing of this country, any of us will ever see, my belief…

So, for people like me, that sees a big administrative state, I say we tear it all down!!! You all better be ready for all the people that get brought down, along the way…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

I said he was going to jail on this forum before Jan. 6th 2021. After that I thought he should be tried for treason. Trump is going to jail and I say about damn time. The arguments that he is going after parts of the "system" to help ordinary Americans is a ruse. The only thing he wants is power. He has been indicted on trying to overturn an election. How can any one defend him if you saw the things he tried to do. It was a clown show. Rudy, Sydney lady and him telling lie after lie. With not a shred of evidence. None. Just lies that they told and spread.
Yeah.... let me know when that happens.

Left wing loons like yourself are tearing this country apart.

You also say that men can have babies and it's OK for children to have men swing their Richards in their faces so you and your ilk are about as worthless as slime on a slug's ass.
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Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Then he will be convicted right???? Just like he was guilty of Russian collusion, tax fraud, bribing the Ukranian government...

You know.. all the stuff YOUR dip**** POTUS has done but you and your lefty brethren are too damn entrenched in MARXISM to care.

Again... slug's ass slime.
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BBW12OG said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Then he will be convicted right???? Just like he was guilty of Russian collusion, tax fraud, bribing the Ukranian government...

You know.. all the stuff YOUR dip**** POTUS has done but you and your lefty brethren are too damn entrenched in MARXISM to care.

Again... slug's ass slime.
They got him this time BBW. It's over, the final nail in the coffin and all the other cliches they have used for the last 7 years blah, blah, blah. Nothing of substance but they got him for sure this time.
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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BBW12OG said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Then he will be convicted right???? Just like he was guilty of Russian collusion, tax fraud, bribing the Ukranian government...
You know.. all the stuff YOUR dip**** POTUS has done but you and your lefty brethren are too damn entrenched in MARXISM to care.

Again... slug's ass slime.

Trump has multiple charges against him. Joe Biden has none. If joe Biden us charged for a crime and he is guilty he deserves all that he gets. If I remember correctly you were one of the people on this forum that spouted stolen election. That is not true. Just ask Tucker Carlson and Fox news. Millions of dollars that cost Fox News and Tucker his job.


Now Joe Biden has disappointed me and a lot of other Americans. He ignored inflation for a whole year. Not that all of inflation was his doing. But he did ignore it a year. That was wrong. I will not vote for him in a primary. Not that will do any good. He will win the Democratic primary and be the the democrat running for president unless something unforeseen happens. He has done some good with the state department and foreign relations with our European allies. Things that Trump hurt.
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caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

BBW12OG said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Then he will be convicted right???? Just like he was guilty of Russian collusion, tax fraud, bribing the Ukranian government...
You know.. all the stuff YOUR dip**** POTUS has done but you and your lefty brethren are too damn entrenched in MARXISM to care.

Again... slug's ass slime.

Trump has multiple charges against him. Joe Biden has none. If joe Biden us charged for a crime and he is guilty he deserves all that he gets. If I remember correctly you were one of the people on this forum that spouted stolen election. That is not true. Just ask Tucker Carlson and Fox news. Millions of dollars that cost Fox News and Tucker his job.


Now Joe Biden has disappointed me and a lot of other Americans. He ignored inflation for a whole year. Not that all of inflation was his doing. But he did ignore it a year. That was wrong. I will not vote for him in a primary. Not that will do any good. He will win the Democratic primary and be the the democrat running for president unless something unforeseen happens. He has done some good with the state department and foreign relations with our European allies. Things that Trump hurt.
Yeah... the Afghanistan debacle was awesome..... ****ting himself with the Pope was great...... Europe is mostly if not all SOCIALIST so I can see why you are so enthralled with them.

I guess President Trump telling NATO that they needed to pay their damn bills and getting them to pay their damn bills really offended you and your ilk didn't it?

That seems to be something that people who vote dumbocrat shy away from....
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BBW12OG said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

BBW12OG said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Then he will be convicted right???? Just like he was guilty of Russian collusion, tax fraud, bribing the Ukranian government...
You know.. all the stuff YOUR dip**** POTUS has done but you and your lefty brethren are too damn entrenched in MARXISM to care.

Again... slug's ass slime.

Trump has multiple charges against him. Joe Biden has none. If joe Biden us charged for a crime and he is guilty he deserves all that he gets. If I remember correctly you were one of the people on this forum that spouted stolen election. That is not true. Just ask Tucker Carlson and Fox news. Millions of dollars that cost Fox News and Tucker his job.


Now Joe Biden has disappointed me and a lot of other Americans. He ignored inflation for a whole year. Not that all of inflation was his doing. But he did ignore it a year. That was wrong. I will not vote for him in a primary. Not that will do any good. He will win the Democratic primary and be the the democrat running for president unless something unforeseen happens. He has done some good with the state department and foreign relations with our European allies. Things that Trump hurt.
Yeah... the Afghanistan debacle was awesome..... ****ting himself with the Pope was great...... Europe is mostly if not all SOCIALIST so I can see why you are so enthralled with them.

I guess President Trump telling NATO that they needed to pay their damn bills and getting them to pay their damn bills really offended you and your ilk didn't it?

That seems to be something that people who vote dumbocrat shy away from....


You are like Trump you insult and spout off words like socialist and that makes those people bad. Sure Europe is more liberal than USA but that does not mean they are a bad ally or not needed by USA. As they need us. But Trump would side with a dictator of Russia over our relationship with Britain and other NATO countries. Should the hey pay their part? You damn right. Stop calling names and argue your points rationally. Or stop talking to me.
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
While I do think Trump has disqualified himself to run for President, these charges are not going to stick. It's not possible to have both free political speech and that speech also disenfranchise voters. That's some legal gymnastics to make up those four charges.

Me thinks that this is more likely a way for the DOJ to take the heat off them for the Hunter Biden non-investigation and allow Joe Biden to continue his tour of Delaware beaches.
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!



I hear you about you 1st Amendment argument. I do not think it will work in this case. Remember all those people Trumps lawyers call to testify. The prosecution will have a just to cross examine. They can not perjure themselves with out endangering them that crime.

But we will see. Again I do appreciate the rational discussion you present. It is better than name calling with out any sane rational thought.


Oh I forgot. He knew he lost. He was told by many that he had people close to him.
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Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!



I hear you about you 1st Amendment argument. I do not think it will work in this case. Remember all those people Trumps lawyers call to testify. The prosecution will have a just to cross examine. They can not perjure themselves with out endangering them that crime.

But we will see. Again I do appreciate the rational discussion you present. It is better than name calling with out any sane rational thought.
I have an opinion…

Once the Trump lawyers start speaking more about the subpoenas, this case will keep getting pushed back. I think they all know that the skeletons are huge, in both parties, and this will get sidelined…

That said, they could take the position that a DC jury will convict him, and they will take their chances.

Thanks Rich for the comments. Unfortunately, you're wrong…. I do name call people, like Chem!
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

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PackBacker07 said:

What tears will flow when Biden is inaugurated?

Will be a clean sweep of PA, GA, NV, and AZ.
How many tears did you shed when your Queen lost?

How many ****ing tears are you going to shed when the SCOTUS overturns the convictions?

You freaking MARXIST POS's keep banging your victory drums like it is game, set, match?

Wonder why????
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caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!

"All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud involves speech. So, 'free speech' doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy."

-Former Trump AG Bill Barr

Well said by Bill.

He's not getting indicted for a "free speech thing."

He's getting indicted for his actions. He's getting indicted for illegally trying to overturn an election.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!

"All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud involves speech. So, 'free speech' doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy."

-Former Trump AG Bill Barr

Well said by Bill.

He's not getting indicted for a "free speech thing."

He's getting indicted for his actions. He's getting indicted for illegally trying to overturn an election.


Civ, I don't think you're right! The indictment (I have not read it) based of people I've listened to, say that he willingly knew he was lying when he claimed the election was stolen.

Bill Barr has been ostracized, by people, other than Fox News, for his inaction, on things he had complete knowledge. Laptop from Hell as an example…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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packgrad said:




That is the best observation I've heard from any mainstream person, ever…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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caryking said:

packgrad said:




That is the best observation I've heard from any mainstream person, ever…
Agreed, I really hope Rogan has Trump on in the near future.
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The left has gone so far off the rails they think Rogan is conservative.
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packgrad said:

The left has gone so far off the rails they think Rogan is conservative.
IF you dont agree with every single line item of the democrat machine you are thrown out.

They hate RFK Jr because his stance on the Covid vax and Big Pharma. IF you are not pro trans in womens sports your arent a "true Dem".

That party is off its rocker.
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caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!

"All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud involves speech. So, 'free speech' doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy."

-Former Trump AG Bill Barr

Well said by Bill.

He's not getting indicted for a "free speech thing."

He's getting indicted for his actions. He's getting indicted for illegally trying to overturn an election.


Civ, I don't think you're right! The indictment (I have not read it) based of people I've listened to, say that he willingly knew he was lying when he claimed the election was stolen.

Bill Barr has been ostracized, by people, other than Fox News, for his inaction, on things he had complete knowledge. Laptop from Hell as an example…

Again, the indictment isn't about what he said.

It's about what he did.

The indictment enumerates all the ways he tried to pressure, coerce, cajole, and otherwise inappropriately and likely illegally attempt to overturn or abandon the results of a lawful and fair election.

Interestingly, the indictment also enumerates all the different advisers, lawyers, staffers, and legislators that told him clearly that there was no evidence of outcome-determinative election fraud or improprieties so he can't hide behind not knowing that what he was saying and doing was wrong.

Just like Roy, he knew or should have known.
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packgrad said:

The left has gone so far off the rails they think Rogan is conservative.

Kinda like how this board has gone so far off the rails they think hokie is a liberal.
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Bas2020 said:

packgrad said:

The left has gone so far off the rails they think Rogan is conservative.
IF you dont agree with every single line item of the democrat machine you are thrown out.

They hate RFK Jr because his stance on the Covid vax and Big Pharma. IF you are not pro trans in womens sports your arent a "true Dem".

That party is off its rocker.


RFK Jr.'s stance on Covid was par for the course but more justifiable than his other anti-vax BS given the newness of the Covid vaccine.

His anti-vax ridiculousness dates back decades. It didn't start with Covid, not even close.

ETA: *And his lunacy isn't limited to anti-vax quackery. He grifts off people that don't trust the establishment/government is many different ways.
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Civilized said:

caryking said:

Civilized said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

caryking said:

Wolfpackrich1 said:

Cary Trump is guilty of exactly what he is charged with and you know it
Actually, I don't know it. I've actually looked at all this and believe a very different story, than the narrative. I'm sorry, I'm just not with you on all this…

Upcoming comments: you're too brainwashed (insert any descriptor) to see the truth. My response, consider that I will probably say the same about you…

Cary I don't think you are brainwashed. I respect your opinions most of the time. I just think you know Trump is guilty but he also does what you want against the " establishment " so you are too forgiving
Rich, I really don't see these charges as him being guilty. One may not like or respect what he has been indicted for; however, it doesn't make him guilty of a crime. Basically, they are indicting him on a free speech thing.

Any of us, in this country, should be to say anything, without legal consequences. Certainly, you can't lie under oath; however, none of these charges, as I've read them, are under oath. Trump believes, in his heart (it appears), he won the election. Everything in this indictment is about his opinions, of the 2020 election.

Anybody, in their right mind, once understanding this, would absolutely express themselves, in an away, similar to Trump. That said, I certainly can see where people think his rhetoric, on the election, was off putting. Indicting someone because they were of putting? Well, that's scary as hell!!!

"All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud involves speech. So, 'free speech' doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy."

-Former Trump AG Bill Barr

Well said by Bill.

He's not getting indicted for a "free speech thing."

He's getting indicted for his actions. He's getting indicted for illegally trying to overturn an election.


Civ, I don't think you're right! The indictment (I have not read it) based of people I've listened to, say that he willingly knew he was lying when he claimed the election was stolen.

Bill Barr has been ostracized, by people, other than Fox News, for his inaction, on things he had complete knowledge. Laptop from Hell as an example…

Again, the indictment isn't about what he said.

It's about what he did.

The indictment enumerates all the ways he tried to pressure, coerce, cajole, and otherwise inappropriately and likely illegally attempt to overturn or abandon the results of a lawful and fair election.

Interestingly, the indictment also enumerates all the different advisers, lawyers, staffers, and legislators that told him clearly that there was no evidence of outcome-determinative election fraud or improprieties so he can't hide behind not knowing that what he was saying and doing was wrong.

Just like Roy, he knew or should have known.
Again, I think you're wrong…. It is clear they are saying Trump knowingly defrauded America, with his claims, of election fraud.

With that in mind, this really starts to get interesting…. The federal government now has to prove the election was not stolen. They just can't say it wasn't, they have to prove it! I really believe this will never see a day in court (probably wrong on this) because the subpoenas for information is something Trumps team never had…
On the illegal or criminal immigrants…

“they built the country, the reason our economy is growing”

Joe Biden
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Civilized said:

packgrad said:

The left has gone so far off the rails they think Rogan is conservative.

Kinda like how this board has gone so far off the rails they think hokie is a liberal.
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Civ and hokie later
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She says she sits on a DOD task force .........and she's say's "they've got the goods".. It was a sting operation all along........as I've said many times here before



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Touche
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hokiewolf said:

Touche
Lol sorry I had to
 
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