Civilized said:100%IseWolf22 said:There is going to be post mortems in both parties and their will be major fights over the direction of the party.Packchem91 said:Post of the day. Even as a Republican, I am happy to be rid of Trump. He's disgusted me his entire career, was disappointed he was our nominee 4 years ago, and though I'm 100% glad Hillary was not our president, Trump has been to divisive to be put into the most important job in the world.jadawson said:
This election does not appear to have been a rebuke of the republican party. They still have a good chance of maintaining control of the Senate or atleast being evenly split, and they picked up seats in the House.
This is just a rebuke against Donald Trump and his divisive rhetoric and lack of a moral compass. There is nothing inspiring about Joe Biden as a candidate even for Democrats. He is not the reason there is a record number of ballots this election and nobody was excited to vote for him. He (will likely) win because he's not Donald Trump and people are tired of Trump and willing to come out in droves to vote for anyone that is not him. Much like in 2016 I think part of Trump's advantage was that he was not Hillary Clinton with all of her baggage, the same is true of him this time around.
The republican party just needs to do some self-analysis as to the direction they want to go. If they move back towards the center and get rid of the QAnon/conspiracy fringe that is seeping into control then i think they will find a lot more independents willing to go their way. Whether that happens or not is up in the air, they seem pretty satisfied with where they are right now outside of the results they are disputing.
I hope Biden will reach out across the aisle, and I hope the GOP will find some viable young candidates who aren't there to appease the far right wings of the party. I'd much rather steal some of the moderate left than the far right.
And the evangelicals need to line up behind someone with morals next time.
The close loss gives Trumpism a leg to stand on when they argue that Republicans should embrace nationalism, and the culture war. Serious voices on the right want to reject classical liberalism and embrace us vs. them tactics to "win" the direction of the country. Trump isn't going away. Don Jr. will try to stay a voice in the party, and might run in 2024 or possibly for something like a senate seat. Cotton, Hawley, Gaetz, etc. will try to stay in this mold.
Instead the GOP should embrace moderates, minorities, and libertarians. Pursue small government solutions and focus on solutions that make the system more fair for everyone. Hailey, Kaisch, and others will represent that wing.
Democrats will also have their own series of fights. Already the Bernie wing is blaming Biden and moderate democrats for not winning the Senate. They are moral crusaders and wont just fall in line behind Pelosi.
Heard a recap yesterday of a House Democrat conference call that lasted over three hours and was incredibly contentious. Huge schism between the far left socialism wing and mainstream/moderates. Basically the moderates were absolutely livid the right was able to so successfully seize on the anti-socialism theme so successfully up and down-ballot. The right being able to do so clearly cost the Dems the Senate and a more resounding House majority. It was actually discussed that no one in the party should ever use the word 'socialism' again.
There's a recognition with moderate Dems that far left, socialism rhetoric damages the party brand.
Dems have a tough slog ahead but theirs is a marriage of convenience to a large extent; the party has always been more of a coalition of partially overlapping interests rather than a highly unified base.
This election may quickly be viewed by the right as best case scenario. They get rid of their Trump problem, maintain control of the Senate (probably), and win back a meaningful number of House seats so Biden is quite limited in his ability to facilitate the left's agenda from the Oval Office. Regroup, and emerge stronger and more united in 2024.
Civilized with the truth again.