SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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ncsupack1 said:

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BBW12OG said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Changing subjects, the left should be proud about what's happening on some of these places of " higher " learning. Taking over buildings by force, making threats to others, and having classes closed for in person. Strange this happens in election years? I guess it's a happen chance.

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Yep....

And so far President Trump hasn't taken the bait.

Whereas.... Sleepy Joe.... in his infinite wisdom... said there are "good people on both sides...."

Wonder why the media let that one slide and continue to lie about what President Trump said?

Notice how Comrade Civ goosesteps the company line when trying to explain what his side is doing...

Rule #1: Never admit your party is a bunch of clowns that pander to "downtrodden demographics" but keeps them poor and uneducated on purpose.

Rule #2: Never discuss your party's shortcomings without first over stating your opponents shortcomings and even making up lies about it. Most importantly make sure the local party members in government lie like hell and get the media to collaborate the lies and run with them.

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Good points. A pattern is forming on major election years. The squad was all out and about shaking hands with the protesters.

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BBW12OG said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Changing subjects, the left should be proud about what's happening on some of these places of " higher " learning. Taking over buildings by force, making threats to others, and having classes closed for in person. Strange this happens in election years? I guess it's a happen chance.

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Yep....

And so far President Trump hasn't taken the bait.

Whereas.... Sleepy Joe.... in his infinite wisdom... said there are "good people on both sides...."

Wonder why the media let that one slide and continue to lie about what President Trump said?

Notice how Comrade Civ goosesteps the company line when trying to explain what his side is doing...

Rule #1: Never admit your party is a bunch of clowns that pander to "downtrodden demographics" but keeps them poor and uneducated on purpose.

Rule #2: Never discuss your party's shortcomings without first over stating your opponents shortcomings and even making up lies about it. Most importantly make sure the local party members in government lie like hell and get the media to collaborate the lies and run with them.

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ncsupack1 said:

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Gotta change the subject I see.

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Civilized said:

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Oldsouljer said:

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Civilized said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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They don't call out his buffoonery because it's there for the public to see, and being good journalists, they understand that it is not for them to interpret for their viewers, what those viewers can see for themselves.

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Huh?

So MSNBC is supposed to call out Biden's gaffes and buffoonery becuase ???, but Fox isn't supposed to call out Trump's because it's so obvious?

That's an interesting twist on media bias.

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Did you storm the Capitol?

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Wufskins said:

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How so? Was Jan 6 not tied to the 2020 election?

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Wufskins said:

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Then you and Cary will know I called the Trump supporters that stormed the Capitol low IQ. I have plenty of family and friends that are smart people but did and will vote for Trump.

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Wufskins said:

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You think the purpose of those low iq Trump supporters that beat up cops and crapped in the Capitol were there over something unrelated to the claims of a stolen election?

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Wufskins said:

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I replied to BBW rules post with a Jan 6 reference and you replied about changing the subject.

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Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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I know what you're driving at and don't completely disagree, but there are ways to try to quantify such things carried out by fairly centrist organizations.

I don't think many of us would argue strongly with this characterization of various outlets, for example:

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barelypure said:

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Even when Biden tells the truth his side tries to convince us that what we heard wasn't what he said. Take for example when he said, "Folks, in a sense, I don't know why we're surprised by Trump," Biden said during a stop in Florida. "How many times does he have to prove we can't be trusted?"

Me, I already knew they can't be trusted and Biden just reiterated that. But you'll have people argue until they're blue in the face that he said he when it was clearly we.

Just like he said, "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics." back in Oct 2020. We all saw the irregularities in the 2020 election and what's came out since. Yet their side wants to argue that's not what he meant.

Look, he's suffering from some sort of cognitive decline so it's natural that he's going to slip up and let the truth out. That's why his handlers have to keep him on a short lease. Not answer questions except for those that have been submitted and they give him what to say and even then he flubs up the answer.

Sometimes you just have to believe what he says when he says it and not a prepared statement by his handlers.

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Wufskins said:

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Did you storm the Capitol?

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Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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barelypure said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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I know what you're driving at and don't completely disagree, but there are ways to try to quantify such things carried out by fairly centrist organizations.

I don't think many of us would argue strongly with this characterization of various outlets, for example:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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barelypure said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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I know what you're driving at and don't completely disagree, but there are ways to try to quantify such things carried out by fairly centrist organizations.

I don't think many of us would argue strongly with this characterization of various outlets, for example:

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I guess the real question is how are "Center Left", "Center", and "Center Right" even being measured? You have the right wing mostly fabricating an alternate reality at the moment. So if a news organization towards the center chooses to ignore that alternate reality instead of give it credence does that push them to the left? Is pretending that Trump is a normal politician required to be considered the "Center"?

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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barelypure said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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I know what you're driving at and don't completely disagree, but there are ways to try to quantify such things carried out by fairly centrist organizations.

I don't think many of us would argue strongly with this characterization of various outlets, for example:

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I guess the real question is how are "Center Left", "Center", and "Center Right" even being measured? You have the right wing mostly fabricating an alternate reality at the moment. So if a news organization towards the center chooses to ignore that alternate reality instead of give it credence does that push them to the left? Is pretending that Trump is a normal politician required to be considered the "Center"?

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I think it comes down to do you show a bias in your reporting and news room. If that's the case I would move NPR and the Washington Post over one to the left.

I don't think it has anything to do with Trump. It's how you frame all stories.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Civilized said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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barelypure said:

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You do realize the guy was talking about a poll right. So for Tucker to verify the poll he would have had to conduct another poll. But since all Tucker does is lie there would need to be a poll to verify that poll. So where does it end.

When other talking heads have on people who have conducted polls do you ask them to verify the poll or are they just giving the poll taker a platform to report the results of the poll.

I think you have a Tucker problem more than a problem with the poll. IOW had this been on someone else's show you would have been more receptive

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The Tucker problem is that he is an admitted liar. So yes, I question most of what he says and what he has on his show. If we are going to hold the left to a standard and call them out for lying, why not hold the same standard to our side?

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That's a start. Now if you guys hadn't been trained to distrust fact checkers, Google, science, or any other external source of truth, you might discover all of the un-admitted liars that shape your worldview, too.

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LOL... I'm still waiting on the " fact checkers " on Biden and his crap that comes out of his mouth daily. And folks wonder why people don't trust the media.

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It would sell, so why is anyone waiting on anything?

Why haven't the right-leaning media done the fact checking and then profited?

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Right wing media does. To your first question, you can answer as to why MSM doesn't go out of their way, even though they get herded out repletely by his handlers. Anything to protect Biden. One other thing, do you think Biden is honest with what he says and therefore no need for fact checkers?

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Because a lot of the legacy media leans left. Same reason why Fox and OAN and Newsmax don't call out Trump's buffoonery. This isn't news.

Good thing there are plenty of both left- and right-leaning news sources so Americans can choose to consume news from across the spectrum if they want.

And if we're keeping score, only right-leaning media has been successfully sued to smithereens for completely and knowingly fabricating bull**** news to appease their thirsty audience.

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To be fair, in 2024 reality has a pretty strong liberal bias, so outside of obvious partisans like MSNBC how can you be sure?

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I know what you're driving at and don't completely disagree, but there are ways to try to quantify such things carried out by fairly centrist organizations.

I don't think many of us would argue strongly with this characterization of various outlets, for example:

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I guess the real question is how are "Center Left", "Center", and "Center Right" even being measured? You have the right wing mostly fabricating an alternate reality at the moment. So if a news organization towards the center chooses to ignore that alternate reality instead of give it credence does that push them to the left? Is pretending that Trump is a normal politician required to be considered the "Center"?

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I think it comes down to do you show a bias in your reporting and news room. If that's the case I would move NPR and the Washington Post over one to the left.

I don't think it has anything to do with Trump. It's how you frame all stories.

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The frame is exactly what I'm talking about. For example, Republicans are running on immigration and Biden allegedly having dementia apparently, so of course every story in right wing media amplifies those ideas. So if you contradict the idea that Biden is mentally disabled, or even just show him behaving normally, are you now left leaning?

But I do think Trump is a big part of this, too. How can you possibly cover him? You either discuss reality or you don't. Is simply pointing out his 'intentionally provocative statement of the day' or suggesting something isn't normal with this guy really even "left leaning"?

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ncsupack1 said:

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Gotta change the subject I see.

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TheStorm said:

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ncsupack1 said:

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Gotta change the subject I see.

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He's an idiot anyway...

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Wait until this hits the airwaves again.
This is what got me booted bc it was the truth.
MonkeyWerx reposted me and it blew up!
True 2020 results!
Trump won 410 and this info was seized in Germany and some of our specops were killed trying to get this!
We can now post this… pic.twitter.com/M2Vmxakmjf

— Fletch17 (@17ThankQ) February 4, 2024

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What gun battle are you talking about? I've got numerous friends serving in Germany still and never heard anything.

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