Oldsouljer said:Disagree with the last, systems are untrustworthy no matter what "fixes" are installed. Low tech, paper ballots only are the way to go, and why not? Elections held in decades past, going back to the 19th century, could be called in one night, now we're to believe that computerized systems require days for a final tally?Civilized said:DrummerboyWolf said:
Proof that Dominion Machines can be hacked and vote totals changed in a Georgia court in real time.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/breaking-professor-election-expert-j-halderman-hacks-dominion/
Here is an interview with a reporter who was at the trial.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/gig-is-up-exclusive-local-reporter-describes-election/
But there is no evidence of voter fraud. Keep on believing that fallacy. I know some on here will.
Correct, there is no evidence of consequential voter fraud. Glad we agree.
If you think that's incorrect, show us the evidence that hackers have attempted to exploit any of the identified vulnerabilities, or that any such hack has occurred in previous elections.
You keep conflating the tiny possiblity of a bad outcome, a possibilty that is hedged by the same disincentives that discourage bad actors from attempting to fraudulently hack mail-in voting, or vote in other people's names in person in states that don't have strong voter ID laws, etc. with it ACTUALLY having happened.
So yes, go shore up vulnerabilities in systems. We're all better for it.
But stop acting like any of those vulnerabilities have been exploited in past elections in ways that modified the outcome of elections because there is zero evidence of that.
I'm really looking forward to these systems being updated to everyone's satisfaction because then during the next election that the election fraud folks lose they'll have to actually reckon with their candidates sucking instead of just trying to pin their election loss on some fake fraud BS.
Paper ballots like the ones that created the hanging chad debacle in 2000?
Why does speed of the count matter? As long as states determine their electors six days before the Electoral College members meet in person as required by law, why is count speed even a consideration?
