FYI on The Water Cooler

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griff17matt said:

caryking said:

BigBarryWood said:

If you got rid of two or three posters that would likely eliminate the issue and probably be more inviting for new posters to join discussions.

Name them. Just remember that your opinion on who those two or three posters are could differ than someone else's…


I think that's fairly easy. Smapty, GP, Were, and BBW. Posts would probably drop 75% but that would get rid of the childish idiots that just can't help themselves. And when you have 75% of the posts on the forum on ignore, it kinda makes the forum unreadable. I'm not going to follow a thread with 15 new replies where all 15 are on ignore. So I end up never engaging or reading because what's the point?

But James and gang can do whatever they want. If they don't clean it up, that's fine. They can leave this forum for the antisemitic posters they wanna keep around and I will leave them to that i suppose.

Lol, of course. You've got GP and Were, the rabid antisemites, BBW, the raging bipolar guy who does nothing but stalk Hokie, and then me, the Dem who stumbled into your private MAGA meeting down by the docks and has been piled on for calling you out ever since.

If we're going on who is incapable of actually debating opinions and mostly just spews personal attacks, then there are only one or two MAGA types here that would make the cut, and you're not one of them. Cary and Storm most definitely aren't either.

But yeah, leaving politics aside, GP, Were, and BBW have no business being in any forum outside of 4chan. Packgrad has been doing a pretty good BBW impersonation lately, so that one's debatable.
caryking
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SmaptyWolf said:

griff17matt said:

caryking said:

BigBarryWood said:

If you got rid of two or three posters that would likely eliminate the issue and probably be more inviting for new posters to join discussions.

Name them. Just remember that your opinion on who those two or three posters are could differ than someone else's…


I think that's fairly easy. Smapty, GP, Were, and BBW. Posts would probably drop 75% but that would get rid of the childish idiots that just can't help themselves. And when you have 75% of the posts on the forum on ignore, it kinda makes the forum unreadable. I'm not going to follow a thread with 15 new replies where all 15 are on ignore. So I end up never engaging or reading because what's the point?

But James and gang can do whatever they want. If they don't clean it up, that's fine. They can leave this forum for the antisemitic posters they wanna keep around and I will leave them to that i suppose.

Lol, of course. You've got GP and Were, the rabid antisemites, BBW, the raging bipolar guy who does nothing but stalk Hokie, and then me, the Dem who stumbled into your private MAGA meeting down by the docks and has been piled on for calling you out ever since.

If we're going on who is incapable of actually debating opinions and mostly just spews personal attacks, then there are only one or two MAGA types here that would make the cut, and you're not one of them. Cary and Storm most definitely aren't either.

But yeah, leaving politics aside, GP, Were, and BBW have no business being in any forum outside of 4chan. Packgrad has been doing a pretty good BBW impersonation lately, so that one's debatable.

LOL
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Glasswolf said:

I will give credit where credit is due. GP and Were have never, ever complained to me about anyone. Were is to busy talking to himself on the WC during the weekends

LOL, how did I get dragged in to this. I don't believe in shutting anyone down here even those I strongly disagree with. Running to James is what someone does when they are losing their arguments to the #TRUTH. No MSM running cover here.

By the way, I take the time to share info that's not covered by the MSM. Don't read, dismiss, it's up to each. I've been proven to be ahead of what you're hearing on the MSM.........and I've named each of em' here before. Do I need to list em'?

I have slim interest in arguing back n forth here........... or even to spend much time to debate. I'll be shown to be close to "right" on most of the topics here.

By the way, I've been on the #WINNING team since 2016. The 2020 election will be overturned long before the 2028 election rolls around
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GuerrillaPack
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SmaptyWolf said:

griff17matt said:

caryking said:

BigBarryWood said:

If you got rid of two or three posters that would likely eliminate the issue and probably be more inviting for new posters to join discussions.

Name them. Just remember that your opinion on who those two or three posters are could differ than someone else's…


I think that's fairly easy. Smapty, GP, Were, and BBW. Posts would probably drop 75% but that would get rid of the childish idiots that just can't help themselves. And when you have 75% of the posts on the forum on ignore, it kinda makes the forum unreadable. I'm not going to follow a thread with 15 new replies where all 15 are on ignore. So I end up never engaging or reading because what's the point?

But James and gang can do whatever they want. If they don't clean it up, that's fine. They can leave this forum for the antisemitic posters they wanna keep around and I will leave them to that i suppose.

Lol, of course. You've got GP and Were, the rabid antisemites, BBW, the raging bipolar guy who does nothing but stalk Hokie, and then me, the Dem who stumbled into your private MAGA meeting down by the docks and has been piled on for calling you out ever since.

If we're going on who is incapable of actually debating opinions and mostly just spews personal attacks, then there are only one or two MAGA types here that would make the cut, and you're not one of them. Cary and Storm most definitely aren't either.

But yeah, leaving politics aside, GP, Were, and BBW have no business being in any forum outside of 4chan. Packgrad has been doing a pretty good BBW impersonation lately, so that one's debatable.

4chan my arse. There is much more harsh criticism of the state of Israel and jews in general than anything I'm doing here on every major free speech platform on the internet (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, etc).

But you want us to believe this false and ridiculous notion that criticism of Israel or jews is the "super duper far out beyond the pale" thing that "only happens on 4chan and other far reaches of the internet", and no criticism of Israel or jews is allowed anywhere else on the internet.

Look on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, etc. Free speech is actually occurring on these platforms, including harsh criticism of Israel and jews.

Once again, you Leftists must resort to extreme deception in order to push your false narratives.
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Werewolf
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I've been posting 'we're headed for a currency reset' for several months now. I'll bet a few of the grumblers here haven't made any personal financial adjustments. We might compare my posts re to this to my posts re the COVID plandemic, mask wearing, the PCR test and #Nappy's monthly jabs.....so, who's right? Were or Nappy?

I told you the 2020 election is "not over yet" for nearly five years. I've shared the interview of one on the Venezuelans who worked for Smartmatic who was involved with the 2020 election heist, as well as many other elections over for past 20 years or so. I've shared here that 71 other countries have had national elections stolen.

Stay tuned! We have more than 100 of the conspirators in US Military custody.

Remember, I've told you here that "we can't get to justice in the Justice System". Treason, sedition and conspiracies will transition to US Military Tribunals. Again, hang around here on the WC and find out who's been right all along..........if you can stand to learn the TRUTH.

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GuerrillaPack
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Smarmy Pants, you guys on the Left really need to be concentrating your energy to whine and cry to Elon and Mark Zuckerberg, and get them to censor and silence all the so-called "antisemitism" that is all over Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Because there is no censorship of these views on those platforms. There are millions of users and posts harshly criticizing Israel and jews all day long on these big social media sites...and criticizing whites/Europeans, asians, and every other race and religious group.

Stop whining and crying and pestering James and the other moderators to beg them to censor your ideological opponents. Begin your crusade to censor Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube of all views you don't like.
"Ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." - John 15:19
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For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.
Werewolf
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caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

If I my PM was being burned up with whining and complaining, I'd be fed up too.

My last post on this thread, if you can't handle the discourse, then get out. You can also stay on........and filter out those you wish to not hear. I promise you, you won't hurt my feelings if you block my posts.

I'm here to help others find the truth, that's it.
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SmaptyWolf
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caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.
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SmaptyWolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

GP, the Water Cooler isn't about free speech. This is a place that a business created for free speech; however, like anything else in life, that which is given, can be taken.

I think you comparing our natural rights, protected by the 1st amendment to IPS giving us place to speak, is misguided. IPS holds the power, not you, me, or anyone else.

I ultimately would support IPS shutting down the Water Cooler, if they chose to do so. That said, the first step would be to bring it behind the paywall wall. Then, hold those accountable for their words by banning, suspending them for actions. Heck, I would have suspended many people on the sports forums for their words.

Here is my observation…

You, along with others (I think) get called anti-Semitic for certain post you've made. Personally, I don't read all your post, so I'm not sure what they mean. If you have an issue with Israel's actions, that doesn't make you Anti-Semitic, that makes you a person questioning their actions. If it's more than that, then, you can certainly hold your opinions; however, it may go against the boards guidelines. So, be careful…

Now, other posters (especially the one pushing for the ban) have been one of the most vitriolic posters on this board. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is meant for reasoned debate. In fact, his post in this thread are perfect exhibits of his vitriol.

I have no issue trying to have a reasoned debate with anyone. People really need to be careful how they say things (myself included); otherwise, they should be reprimanded. I posted in the thread Hokie started and gave my true feeling towards these types of posts. GP, hopefully you read it…. In fact, I hope everyone reads it.

Smapty, I get it… you have an opinion on politics, that's different than some in the Water Cooler. What I don't understand is: if you support shutting it down, so much, why do you continue posting here? Just read your own post, in this thread alone. It really doesn't make sense.

Glasswolf and I, who I don't see the world the same, regarding politics, gets along just wonderfully. Glass is a very reasoned person that can get pushed too far, like any of us. Even Glass left for some of the post. Heck, he took the NASCAR thread behind the paywall. It's not in the Water Cooler, so I forget about it; however, we have people with different drivers getting along just fine. For those that haven't been around NASCAR, the Ford/Chevrolet debate is as fierce as NC State/ UNC.

The truth of the matter is that IPS is no different than "X" when it comes to people. People will be people, unfortunately. We, as people, can really screw things up!

Honestly man, you've made it more than clear that you're completely oblivious to the vitriol and constant personal attacks that are spewed on this board daily. And of course GP and Were's rabid antisemitism is one of the few things that many people can agree on here, but you're just not sure. Guys like Gulfstream saying that anyone at a drag show should be marched into "the ovens"? BBW literally stalking people, talking about having sex with their wives, etc. Nope, just doesn't register.

So no, I don't expect you to have any idea what I'm talking about.

Dude you have called everyone you disagree with here morons and idiots from the very beginning so please spare everyone with this hypocritical garbage.

Yes the personal attacks have gone way over the top and need to stop but you need to do some self reflecting before you criticize others.

I know I've also called people idiots etc and I plan to do a better job going forward if the Water Cooler stays.

Me being called an idiot (a constant thing being the only openly Dem poster to set foot in here), or calling someone else an an idiot strictly based on their comments on an off the rails political forum like this isn't even remotely what I'm talking about when I say "personal attacks". So no, I've never engaged in that crap.

Personally I'd love a civil political forum where we just debate ideas... Civilized is still holding out the dream that it's possible, but absent some strict moderation it's clearly not.


You would love a civil political forum but every single post from you is a condescending, mean spirited remark.

You are one of the main problem posters on the WC.
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

No one with IPS is obligated to "follow through" on shutting down a forum or censoring it or doing anything, just because crybaby Leftists like you are constantly pestering and whining to the mods and site owners to censor the site of views that hurt your feelings.
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griff17matt
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SmaptyWolf said:

griff17matt said:

caryking said:

BigBarryWood said:

If you got rid of two or three posters that would likely eliminate the issue and probably be more inviting for new posters to join discussions.

Name them. Just remember that your opinion on who those two or three posters are could differ than someone else's…


I think that's fairly easy. Smapty, GP, Were, and BBW. Posts would probably drop 75% but that would get rid of the childish idiots that just can't help themselves. And when you have 75% of the posts on the forum on ignore, it kinda makes the forum unreadable. I'm not going to follow a thread with 15 new replies where all 15 are on ignore. So I end up never engaging or reading because what's the point?

But James and gang can do whatever they want. If they don't clean it up, that's fine. They can leave this forum for the antisemitic posters they wanna keep around and I will leave them to that i suppose.

Lol, of course. You've got GP and Were, the rabid antisemites, BBW, the raging bipolar guy who does nothing but stalk Hokie, and then me, the Dem who stumbled into your private MAGA meeting down by the docks and has been piled on for calling you out ever since.

If we're going on who is incapable of actually debating opinions and mostly just spews personal attacks, then there are only one or two MAGA types here that would make the cut, and you're not one of them. Cary and Storm most definitely aren't either.

But yeah, leaving politics aside, GP, Were, and BBW have no business being in any forum outside of 4chan. Packgrad has been doing a pretty good BBW impersonation lately, so that one's debatable.


I mostly just included you because you are unequivocally an *******. You instigate ****, you stoke fires, and I find most of your posts here generally to be mean spirited. Maybe if the big 3 weren't here then you'd seem more sane. Who knows. I don't personally have a problem with you but you *are* part of the WC problem, without question.

Without a doubt, I'd rank them
1. BBW
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2. Were
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3. GP
4. You

I'd even be kinda fine with keeping GP around because, even though he is literally insane, he has a genuine love for NC State sports and is fine when I run across his takes on the Olympic sports board.
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Gulfstream4 said:

SmaptyWolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

GP, the Water Cooler isn't about free speech. This is a place that a business created for free speech; however, like anything else in life, that which is given, can be taken.

I think you comparing our natural rights, protected by the 1st amendment to IPS giving us place to speak, is misguided. IPS holds the power, not you, me, or anyone else.

I ultimately would support IPS shutting down the Water Cooler, if they chose to do so. That said, the first step would be to bring it behind the paywall wall. Then, hold those accountable for their words by banning, suspending them for actions. Heck, I would have suspended many people on the sports forums for their words.

Here is my observation…

You, along with others (I think) get called anti-Semitic for certain post you've made. Personally, I don't read all your post, so I'm not sure what they mean. If you have an issue with Israel's actions, that doesn't make you Anti-Semitic, that makes you a person questioning their actions. If it's more than that, then, you can certainly hold your opinions; however, it may go against the boards guidelines. So, be careful…

Now, other posters (especially the one pushing for the ban) have been one of the most vitriolic posters on this board. Nothing that comes out of his mouth is meant for reasoned debate. In fact, his post in this thread are perfect exhibits of his vitriol.

I have no issue trying to have a reasoned debate with anyone. People really need to be careful how they say things (myself included); otherwise, they should be reprimanded. I posted in the thread Hokie started and gave my true feeling towards these types of posts. GP, hopefully you read it…. In fact, I hope everyone reads it.

Smapty, I get it… you have an opinion on politics, that's different than some in the Water Cooler. What I don't understand is: if you support shutting it down, so much, why do you continue posting here? Just read your own post, in this thread alone. It really doesn't make sense.

Glasswolf and I, who I don't see the world the same, regarding politics, gets along just wonderfully. Glass is a very reasoned person that can get pushed too far, like any of us. Even Glass left for some of the post. Heck, he took the NASCAR thread behind the paywall. It's not in the Water Cooler, so I forget about it; however, we have people with different drivers getting along just fine. For those that haven't been around NASCAR, the Ford/Chevrolet debate is as fierce as NC State/ UNC.

The truth of the matter is that IPS is no different than "X" when it comes to people. People will be people, unfortunately. We, as people, can really screw things up!

Honestly man, you've made it more than clear that you're completely oblivious to the vitriol and constant personal attacks that are spewed on this board daily. And of course GP and Were's rabid antisemitism is one of the few things that many people can agree on here, but you're just not sure. Guys like Gulfstream saying that anyone at a drag show should be marched into "the ovens"? BBW literally stalking people, talking about having sex with their wives, etc. Nope, just doesn't register.

So no, I don't expect you to have any idea what I'm talking about.

Dude you have called everyone you disagree with here morons and idiots from the very beginning so please spare everyone with this hypocritical garbage.

Yes the personal attacks have gone way over the top and need to stop but you need to do some self reflecting before you criticize others.

I know I've also called people idiots etc and I plan to do a better job going forward if the Water Cooler stays.

Me being called an idiot (a constant thing being the only openly Dem poster to set foot in here), or calling someone else an an idiot strictly based on their comments on an off the rails political forum like this isn't even remotely what I'm talking about when I say "personal attacks". So no, I've never engaged in that crap.

Personally I'd love a civil political forum where we just debate ideas... Civilized is still holding out the dream that it's possible, but absent some strict moderation it's clearly not.


You would love a civil political forum but every single post from you is a condescending, mean spirited remark.

You are one of the main problem posters on the WC.

Lol, I don't think you've ever debated an actual topic since you've been here, and instead just want people to know that you're feasting on liberal tears and/or that they have Trump Derangement Syndrome. But tell us more about being condescending and mean spirited.
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I think this thread says all that needs to be said. Shut it down!!!
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SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.
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GuerrillaPack said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

No one with IPS is obligated to "follow through" on shutting down a forum or censoring it or doing anything, just because crybaby Leftists like you are constantly pestering and whining to the mods and site owners to censor the site of views that hurt your feelings.

Smapty has never once messaged me about anything.
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jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

Can always go to PP and pay to post on their premium Brickyard
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Glasswolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

Can always go to PP and pay to post on their premium Brickyard

Haha yep
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caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.
It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great.


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jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

You're one of the regular contributors to this cesspool, so I can understand why you feel that way.

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Cthepack said:

I think this thread says all that needs to be said. Shut it down!!!

No.

Don't give in to the Leftist whiners, and let them "win". The only "problem" that The Water Cooler is creating is it is causing Leftist snowflakes like Smampty to pester and harass the mods and site owners, with their constant whining and complaining to censor those that they disagree with.

The Water Cooler is not hurting anything. Other than the feelings of Leftist snowflake posters.

In my view it is a net positive for the site. It draws in more traffic and discussion and posters to the site. I know, personally, that I visit and post on IPS more due to having The Water Cooler here. If The Water Cooler did not exist, overall traffic to the site and other forums will go down, and you may even lose subscribers and users by cancelling The Water Cooler.
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SmaptyWolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

You're one of the regular contributors to this cesspool, so I can understand why you feel that way.



You have way more posts on here than me and I have no problem with how James runs HIS business.
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Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.
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GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.
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Glasswolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

Can always go to PP and pay to post on their premium Brickyard

Why did James start this thread, again? Clearly he has a problem with the Water Cooler, too.

I'm just pointing out that if you allow a completely unmoderated political forum to run wild, especially in the current political climate, I can't imagine how you could expect much different.
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SmaptyWolf said:

Glasswolf said:

jkpackfan said:

SmaptyWolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

Unfortunately I think when James says "possibly closing it", the word possibly is doing the heavy lifting. Given what they've let slide up until now, I will be truly surprised if they follow through on that.

I get the idea of a "honey pot" to keep politics out of the sports forums, but it's wild to me that IPS has never minded being associated with the completely unmoderated crap that gets spewed here. If it were my business, unless the resources were available to post rules and then actually moderate the place, I'd definitely nuke it from orbit.

It's wild to me how you keep calling out the site owners for how they run THEIR site. It's not your business and if you have a problem with how they moderate then take it to another site. You've posted this same crap I don't know how many times, no one cares.

Can always go to PP and pay to post on their premium Brickyard

Why did James start this thread, again? Clearly he has a problem with the Water Cooler, too.

I'm just pointing out that if you allow a completely unmoderated political forum to run wild, especially in the current political climate, I can't imagine how you could expect much different.

What is the problem with allowing free speech to "run wild"? Oh the horror!! People speaking their mind freely.

The only thing that this hurts is the feelings of special snowflake Leftists like you, who are used to living in a Leftist bubble (like those who only watch Lamestream media) and think that all right-wing views should be suppressed and censored.
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Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.


Yeah. I don't believe that at all.
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packgrad said:

Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.


Yeah. I don't believe that at all.


No disrespect to Glass but I ain't buying that.
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Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.


Yeah. I don't believe that at all.


No disrespect to Glass but I ain't buying that.

You can believe what you want. The last message I got was about Smapty

Deleted the messages at the senders request

And let's not forget when Ernie went on his drunken rant one night
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Glasswolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.


Yeah. I don't believe that at all.


No disrespect to Glass but I ain't buying that.

You can believe what you want. The last message I got was about Smapty

Deleted the messages at the senders request

And let's not forget when Ernie went on his drunken rant one night


I believe you
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Shut down the WC if you must, but I'll say this….to everyone's credit, the worst of us have kept our crap here, and I doubt the sports boards will be the better for WC's elimination.
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PackDaddy
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After reading thru the Water Cooler, James will never question the validity of Noah's Ark
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Glasswolf said:

Gulfstream4 said:

packgrad said:

Glasswolf said:

GuerrillaPack said:

Glasswolf said:

caryking said:

For a thread where IPS management stated they were considering shutting this place down, well… we sure have missed the mark.

We all tried to moderate the WC. But every time we did, we got accused of censorship. No matter which side was moderated. So eventually I just stopped. Wasn't worth it.


I think I speak for most of the right-leaning posters here when I say that we do not want any moderation. It is not needed...except for when literal spammers (guys from other websites trying to sell something) post new threads advertising their travel site or whatever.

It is overwhelmingly the Left that requests and wants heavy moderation of the site. Because Leftists want to use that heavy moderation to enact censorship of conservatives and right-leaning posters.

I believe that the "hands off' approach to moderation in The Water Cooler as it has been operating for the last few years has worked just fine. The only "problem", it seems, is that Leftist posters are just constantly whining and pestering the mods and site owners because they want more and more censorship...because that is the modus operandi of the Left, to censor their ideological opponents.

Just ignore all these Leftist whiners. That's the real problem here.

You sure about that. I've gotten more messages about Hokie, Civilized and Smapty than anyone.


Yeah. I don't believe that at all.


No disrespect to Glass but I ain't buying that.

You can believe what you want. The last message I got was about Smapty

Deleted the messages at the senders request

And let's not forget when Ernie went on his drunken rant one night

I believe the Ignore feature works just fine despite the shortcomings observed by others, and I wish everyone would utilize, it'd render a lot of this stuff to be moot. That way, the WC could be the new Bluesky for our resident leftists and a pleasant discussion forum for the mainstreamers.
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TheStorm
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I just laughed my f'n ass off that nutjob GP thinks he speaks for anybody here other than his crazy ass self... talk about a lack of self awareness, as if he's just "one of the normal guys" now, lol. *I only saw it because someone quoted him though, so indirectly at least, Old Souljier is right on the money about that ignore button.

Nothing warms my heart more than to see a stack of three names (yeah, and sometimes a stack of the same name 20 times) with no posts showing up under them in the morning.

And wow... I had forgotten all about ernie that one night, boy did that come completely out of left field?!? *But Glass handled it exactly like he should have...

I still come here to read on a regular basis, but I've "tried" not to post as much - but I have to admit that sometimes it's hard not to respond to some of the nonsense that gets posted here.

I support whatever the owners of the site decide they want / need to do regarding this board. Just hope it doesn't then permeate the sports boards instead though...
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I missed ernie night. I remember mountainwolf night though. That dude went off the rails big time.

Feel the same as you and ouldsouljer, it's the owners site. If they want to shut it down, it's their call. Hopefully it doesn't leak onto the sports boards. It's worse there than it is here. I have more on ignore there than here.
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