hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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That's not governing that pitching a fit

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The latter is preferable to acceding to extortion. And these outrageous and harmful add-ons to the existing CR amount to extortion if no one wants a shutdown.

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well you guys are going to get what you want.

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Polymarket says you're probably right, though it's not what I want. It's just that the alternative I want even less and I say that even as I'll be layed off should the shutdown proceed.

hokiewolf said:

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Great point

The new spending bill that Republicans are lauding is worse than just about any continuing resolution the establishment has pushed in the past.

They are extending Biden’s spending levels AND raising the debt ceiling by $4 trillion or more.

I can’t recall a time when Republicans…

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) December 19, 2024

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So, are you saying you would take a more hard line that the so-called Populist Republicans? That appears to be what this post is saying. If so, then names listed, in your previous post, should be commended…

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hokiewolf said:

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Great point

The new spending bill that Republicans are lauding is worse than just about any continuing resolution the establishment has pushed in the past.

They are extending Biden’s spending levels AND raising the debt ceiling by $4 trillion or more.

I can’t recall a time when Republicans…

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) December 19, 2024

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So, are you saying you would take a more hard line that the so-called Populist Republicans? That appears to be what this post is saying. If so, then names listed, in your previous post, should be commended…

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it's all for show. As soon as Trump is in office the spending will go back up

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Looks like Johnson needs to make the CR a one-page document and he can get full Republican support. Send it over to Schumer and let him shut the damn thing down! It's time for Johnson to grow a pair!

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I think it'd be hilarious for the government to be shut down during Trump's inauguration.

Oh well, a permanently shut down government is what people voted for whether they realize it or not, so go for it! Republicans will rightly get 100% of the blame and the upcoming midterm election will be a lot of fun.

hokiewolf said:

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hokiewolf said:

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Great point

The new spending bill that Republicans are lauding is worse than just about any continuing resolution the establishment has pushed in the past.

They are extending Biden’s spending levels AND raising the debt ceiling by $4 trillion or more.

I can’t recall a time when Republicans…

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) December 19, 2024

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So, are you saying you would take a more hard line that the so-called Populist Republicans? That appears to be what this post is saying. If so, then names listed, in your previous post, should be commended…

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it's all for show. As soon as Trump is in office the spending will go back up

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And this is why I have very little faith DOGE will do anything of consequence

Well, Nancy Mace has an opinion (if she read it, is it fact?) on the CR…

It’s not the number of pages that matter - it’s what’s in those pages.

This CR had the same level of spending today as it did yesterday, but the debt ceiling was suspended, meaning there was no limit on the debt. I don’t trust Congress or the government to spend responsibly…

— Nancy Mace (@NancyMace) December 20, 2024

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Looks like Johnson needs to make the CR a one-page document and he can get full Republican support. Send it over to Schumer and let him shut the damn thing down! It's time for Johnson to grow a pair!

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I think it'd be hilarious for the government to be shut down during Trump's inauguration.

Oh well, a permanently shut down government is what people voted for whether they realize it or not, so go for it! Republicans will rightly get 100% of the blame and the upcoming midterm election will be a lot of fun.

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Still stings doesn't it?

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Looks like Johnson needs to make the CR a one-page document and he can get full Republican support. Send it over to Schumer and let him shut the damn thing down! It's time for Johnson to grow a pair!

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I think it'd be hilarious for the government to be shut down during Trump's inauguration.

Oh well, a permanently shut down government is what people voted for whether they realize it or not, so go for it! Republicans will rightly get 100% of the blame and the upcoming midterm election will be a lot of fun.

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Still stings doesn't it?

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Actually, this is shaping up to be pretty entertaining.

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SmaptyWolf said:

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caryking said:

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Looks like Johnson needs to make the CR a one-page document and he can get full Republican support. Send it over to Schumer and let him shut the damn thing down! It's time for Johnson to grow a pair!

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I think it'd be hilarious for the government to be shut down during Trump's inauguration.

Oh well, a permanently shut down government is what people voted for whether they realize it or not, so go for it! Republicans will rightly get 100% of the blame and the upcoming midterm election will be a lot of fun.

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Still stings doesn't it?

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Actually, this is shaping up to be pretty entertaining.

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I agree. Watching you TDS regularly is hilarious.

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caryking said:

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Looks like Johnson needs to make the CR a one-page document and he can get full Republican support. Send it over to Schumer and let him shut the damn thing down! It's time for Johnson to grow a pair!

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I think it'd be hilarious for the government to be shut down during Trump's inauguration.

Oh well, a permanently shut down government is what people voted for whether they realize it or not, so go for it! Republicans will rightly get 100% of the blame and the upcoming midterm election will be a lot of fun.

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Still stings doesn't it?

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Shutting down the government may be what people want. That is the people that voted for Trump. I know I do! Put a 100% clear CR, on the table and let chips fall where they may. If it doesn't pass, well, we don't have many days until Trump takes office. Also, we have less days until both houses are in control by Republicans.

Between now and then, not a lot is going on. So, shut it down, like it really is anyway. Starting on January 20th, 100% of the workforce start coming back in the office, or shut those that don't…. Well, shut them down!!

The private sector doesn't work this way. Why some thinks it's ok for the Federal Government to work this way, show thier stupidity.

A lot of variables at play here. Both sides are posturing for their "wants and needs." If Trump's election means that Congressional spending will be subject to more intense scrutiny and all of these "riders" being attached to the bill are finally being red flagged - then that is a win for everyone. All departments of our government especially at the federal level have become subject to boondoggling. Cages have to be rattled. The majority of Americans I believe welcome this attempt at accountability. For the sake of all that is just, fair and common sense our government at all three levels needs to be cleansed and start fresh. It will never be perfect, but it can certainly be better. Hopefully this is the beginning. If our democracy is to be saved, statesmen and stateswomen need to become just that again: workers for the people and not in it for themselves or their financial backers. Time will tell.

CONFIRMED,

Chip Roy is a fucken Democrat.

Chip Roy to be Liz Cheneyed. https://t.co/wUsyuGYBjw pic.twitter.com/RnMMMtYDAS

— 🇺🇸RealRobert🇺🇸 (@Real_RobN) December 20, 2024

lol, Chip ****in' Roy is now. RINO? Child please

How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839
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January 20th can't get here fast enough

Gulfstream4 said:

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How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839
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January 20th can't get here fast enough

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President Elon may be a self-dealing lunatic, but at least he's relatively young.

SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839
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January 20th can't get here fast enough

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President Elon may be a self-dealing lunatic, but at least he's relatively young.

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Something Elon. Anything on your guy or the article?

Gulfstream4 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839
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January 20th can't get here fast enough

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President Elon may be a self-dealing lunatic, but at least he's relatively young.

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Something Elon. Anything on your guy or the article?

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The WSJ is basically lipstick on a right wing turd, so no, no thoughts on the article. I just hope Biden pardons about a thousand more people so you'll have one more thing to bawl about before he shoves off.

Anyway, please move the "But But Something Biden" stuff to the Biden thread... this is the Clown Car thread.

Werewolf said:

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CONFIRMED,

Chip Roy is a fucken Democrat.

Chip Roy to be Liz Cheneyed. https://t.co/wUsyuGYBjw pic.twitter.com/RnMMMtYDAS

— 🇺🇸RealRobert🇺🇸 (@Real_RobN) December 20, 2024

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This is totally incorrect. Chip Roy is a Patriot. He knows how spineless most of the Republicans are and in the end they will cave. Trump is wrong on this one.

Here is story of today's interview with Glenn Beck and the youtube version of the interview. Again Chip Roy is a Patriot. He knows the weasels that many in Congress are.


https://www.theblaze.com/news/chip-roy-donald-trump-debtceiling

Man, I can't wait for the season finale. The Elon/Trump breakup is going to be epic!

DrummerboyWolf said:

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Werewolf said:

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CONFIRMED,

Chip Roy is a fucken Democrat.

Chip Roy to be Liz Cheneyed. https://t.co/wUsyuGYBjw pic.twitter.com/RnMMMtYDAS

— 🇺🇸RealRobert🇺🇸 (@Real_RobN) December 20, 2024

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This is totally incorrect. Chip Roy is a Patriot. He knows how spineless most of the Republicans are and in the end they will cave. Trump is wrong on this one.

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Yup.

Fellas; let's get to the bottom of this thing and see what's real and what's not. Of course, we likely disagree on GW Bush too. Of course, 20 years ago I thought GW Bush did a good job too.

🚨 RINO ALERT: Chip Roy just got EXPOSED by Trump—and MAGA is coming for him.

Held up hurricane relief for months after Cat 5 Michael to grandstand.
Part of the failed coup to oust AG Ken Paxton.
Campaigned with DeSantis, trashed Trump supporters, and called us “f***ers.”
Texas,… pic.twitter.com/yi3AjjiyFj

— Axel (@AxelCharai) December 19, 2024

Never forget that Chip Roy defended the actions of Mike Pence on January 6th.
He was also solidly in favor of having Donald Trump impeached.
Listen to his own words 👇 pic.twitter.com/FGeNPsO3gm

— Farm Girl Carrie 👩‍🌾 (@FarmGirlCarrie) December 19, 2024

We have one chance, one outsider willing to take the punches. Let's ride this horse and see if he can get us there. This country has become a shell of what it can be.

Anybody that is against Ken Paxton I'm against.

You mean the Chip Roy who was the first member of congress to endorse Ron DeSantis to run against Trump or the Chip Roy that worked with the Bush scumbags in Texas to remove Ken Paxton from office ? pic.twitter.com/trHj1aXxtn

— ColBen Bannister (@ColBannister) December 19, 2024

You can decide for yourself.

“But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!”

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020…

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) December 20, 2024

"But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!"

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020
-Anti-Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024

Chip is nothing but an establishment RINO who fakes "principled stands" if it means he can stop Trump and the MAGA movement

All he wants is a salary increase and some Fox News airtime

Here's one more obvious, not as obvious as Cheney or Kitzinger

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) goes on a wild rant when asked if he would support banning stock trading for politicians. Crenshaw then proceeds to complain about House members not receiving a raise.

“This is like number 1000 on my priority list of things to care about. This is one of… pic.twitter.com/gePdOlUrUB

— RedWave Press (@RedWave_Press) November 27, 2024

^Tucker disagrees with me. And we wonder how we never pull away from this socialism cluster-$uck? Because these snake oil salesmen RINOs spin a bunch of bulls$it and pull the rug out from under our feat quietly with music to our ears............much akin to a Pied Piper song........leading us away from the corrupt pile of **** on DC.

The single most truly left wing member of congress is a Republican….

pic.twitter.com/7MovNzxKuO

— 🇺🇸 Pismo 🇺🇸 (@Pismo_B) December 20, 2024

SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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SmaptyWolf said:

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Gulfstream4 said:

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How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge

https://www.wsj.com/politics/biden-white-house-age-function-diminished-3906a839
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January 20th can't get here fast enough

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President Elon may be a self-dealing lunatic, but at least he's relatively young.

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Something Elon. Anything on your guy or the article?

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The WSJ is basically lipstick on a right wing turd, so no, no thoughts on the article. I just hope Biden pardons about a thousand more people so you'll have one more thing to bawl about before he shoves off.

Anyway, please move the "But But Something Biden" stuff to the Biden thread... this is the Clown Car thread.

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So the WSJ is lying? They made this story up?

I put the article here because I know you avoid the Biden thread, and any discussion about your guy, like the plague.

….standing by for something Elon, 3, 2, 1

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A lot of variables at play here. Both sides are posturing for their "wants and needs." If Trump's election means that Congressional spending will be subject to more intense scrutiny and all of these "riders" being attached to the bill are finally being red flagged - then that is a win for everyone. All departments of our government especially at the federal level have become subject to boondoggling. Cages have to be rattled. The majority of Americans I believe welcome this attempt at accountability. For the sake of all that is just, fair and common sense our government at all three levels needs to be cleansed and start fresh. It will never be perfect, but it can certainly be better. Hopefully this is the beginning. If our democracy is to be saved, statesmen and stateswomen need to become just that again: workers for the people and not in it for themselves or their financial backers. Time will tell.

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I have no doubt you believe all of that, but man, what a fantasy world you're living in.

All that this budget episode accomplished was to strip out funding for childhood cancer, lower prescription drug costs, and a few similar things, and set things up for a billionaire tax cut next year. In other words, the deficit will be going way up in 2025, not down. It just won't be for anything that helps you personally.

You fantasize about statesmen serving the people, but then elected Team Billionaire. So good luck with that. They're here to usher in a new era of government of the billionaires, quite literally by the billionaires and really obviously for the billionaires. At least it's refreshing that they've finally stepped out of the shadows and are being brazen about it.

SmaptyWolf said:

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CoachCase said:

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A lot of variables at play here. Both sides are posturing for their "wants and needs." If Trump's election means that Congressional spending will be subject to more intense scrutiny and all of these "riders" being attached to the bill are finally being red flagged - then that is a win for everyone. All departments of our government especially at the federal level have become subject to boondoggling. Cages have to be rattled. The majority of Americans I believe welcome this attempt at accountability. For the sake of all that is just, fair and common sense our government at all three levels needs to be cleansed and start fresh. It will never be perfect, but it can certainly be better. Hopefully this is the beginning. If our democracy is to be saved, statesmen and stateswomen need to become just that again: workers for the people and not in it for themselves or their financial backers. Time will tell.

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I have no doubt you believe all of that, but man, what a fantasy world you're living in.

All that this budget episode accomplished was to strip out funding for childhood cancer, lower prescription drug costs, and a few similar things, and set things up for a billionaire tax cut next year. In other words, the deficit will be going way up in 2025, not down. It just won't be for anything that helps you personally.

You fantasize about statesmen serving the people, but then elected Team Billionaire. So good luck with that. They're here to usher in a new era of government of the billionaires, quite literally by the billionaires and really obviously for the billionaires. At least it's refreshing that they've finally stepped out of the shadows and are being brazen about it.

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You got to start somewhere. Sure, there will be cuts that will hurt some but that is the unfortunate reality of the situation. The excessive spending of frivolous pork barrel projects from both parties has to stop especially these projects going to other countries. I don't care if it was a Democrat or Republican who initiated it, but something has to be done differently. Yes, I am a realist but I also believe that there is still some good left in people. Merry Christmas!

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You can decide for yourself.

“But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!”

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020…

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) December 20, 2024

"But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!"

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020
-Anti-Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024

Chip is nothing but an establishment RINO who fakes "principled stands" if it means he can stop Trump and the MAGA movement

All he wants is a salary increase and some Fox News airtime

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All I got to say is if he goes after Roy, I hope he does the same for Thom Tillis.

Oldsouljer said:

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Werewolf said:

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You can decide for yourself.

“But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!”

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020…

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) December 20, 2024

"But Chip Roy is just a fiscally conservative Republican!"

-Supported Liz Cheney
-Supported George Floyd
-Thought Trump should be impeached
-Supported Pence on J6
-Worked for John Cornyn
-Wanted Ken Paxton impeached and removed from AG
-Certified election fraud in 2020
-Anti-Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024

Chip is nothing but an establishment RINO who fakes "principled stands" if it means he can stop Trump and the MAGA movement

All he wants is a salary increase and some Fox News airtime

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All I got to say is if he goes after Roy, I hope he does the same for Thom Tillis.

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We agree on TIllis. There are 40 R Senators that should be washed out. Tillis is in the 1st or 2nd group of 10.

Embedded at Fox News have been characters like this. Remember some of his lies........and you think you're getting truth. He's been the 'controlled opposition'.

Trump wins the Election and TDS loser Neil Cavuto announces live on air that he’s leaving Fox News after almost 30 years.

The Fake News journalists are jumping ship already 🔥 pic.twitter.com/vKtxThhgfy

— Patri0tsareinContr0l (@Patri0tContr0l) December 20, 2024

Neil Cavuto, who once said that hydroxychloroquine will kill you, and who also interrupted a Trump speech to tell the world that 2020 was not stolen, resigned from Fox News.

Drop a 😊 if you’re glad Cavuto is gone. pic.twitter.com/7oOI1cERux

— Farm Girl Carrie 👩‍🌾 (@FarmGirlCarrie) December 20, 2024

Exhibit A for Neil Cavuto's numerous factual inaccuracies; here speaking about Hydroxychloroquine: "I cannot stress enough. This will KILL you!” pic.twitter.com/RqLuoAz97L

— LivePDDave 🇺🇸 (@LivePDDave1) December 19, 2024