2024 Elections

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Werewolf
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Civilized said:

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People that truly wanted a fair and open election would want to do everything possible to ensure that the election is fair and transparent. That is why people question the integrity of the election process and all of these examples are the reasons why. Yet, Civ and others like him say "nothing to see here!" When in fact there is plenty to see and question. Sad state of affairs that our country is in and the Democrats accuse Trump and MAGA has a threat to democracy when they themselves are trampling democracy into oblivion.

"...Civ and others like him say 'nothing to see here!"

I assume by "others like him" you mean "the courts."

If so I agree very much.
#Sieve, ole buddy, you're in for a real surprise and it's going to be very hard for you to explain yourself to others. That day of reckoning is fast approaching. It's been laid out on a silver platter here for ya.......maybe you just go home every night and flip on CNN and MSNBC to reassure yourself......maybe that's what happens.
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Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

CoachCase said:

People that truly wanted a fair and open election would want to do everything possible to ensure that the election is fair and transparent. That is why people question the integrity of the election process and all of these examples are the reasons why. Yet, Civ and others like him say "nothing to see here!" When in fact there is plenty to see and question. Sad state of affairs that our country is in and the Democrats accuse Trump and MAGA has a threat to democracy when they themselves are trampling democracy into oblivion.

"...Civ and others like him say 'nothing to see here!"

I assume by "others like him" you mean "the courts."

If so I agree very much.
#Sieve, ole buddy, you're in for a real surprise and it's going to be very hard for you to explain yourself to others. That day of reckoning is fast approaching. It's been laid out on a silver platter here for ya.......maybe you just go home every night and flip on CNN and MSNBC to reassure yourself......maybe that's what happens.
Lol, so menacing! You're totally scaring us into submission!

Just in case it's not clear who the bad guys are here. What a bunch of small-minded lunatics.
Werewolf
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SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

CoachCase said:

People that truly wanted a fair and open election would want to do everything possible to ensure that the election is fair and transparent. That is why people question the integrity of the election process and all of these examples are the reasons why. Yet, Civ and others like him say "nothing to see here!" When in fact there is plenty to see and question. Sad state of affairs that our country is in and the Democrats accuse Trump and MAGA has a threat to democracy when they themselves are trampling democracy into oblivion.

"...Civ and others like him say 'nothing to see here!"

I assume by "others like him" you mean "the courts."

If so I agree very much.
#Sieve, ole buddy, you're in for a real surprise and it's going to be very hard for you to explain yourself to others. That day of reckoning is fast approaching. It's been laid out on a silver platter here for ya.......maybe you just go home every night and flip on CNN and MSNBC to reassure yourself......maybe that's what happens.
Lol, so menacing! You're totally scaring us into submission!

Just in case it's not clear who the bad guys are here. What a bunch of small-minded lunatics.
Don't mean to frighten you my little friend. I just want you to know I've been watching this like a movie.....with some popcorn from time to time. ;-)
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Werewolf said:

SmaptyWolf said:

Werewolf said:

Civilized said:

CoachCase said:

People that truly wanted a fair and open election would want to do everything possible to ensure that the election is fair and transparent. That is why people question the integrity of the election process and all of these examples are the reasons why. Yet, Civ and others like him say "nothing to see here!" When in fact there is plenty to see and question. Sad state of affairs that our country is in and the Democrats accuse Trump and MAGA has a threat to democracy when they themselves are trampling democracy into oblivion.

"...Civ and others like him say 'nothing to see here!"

I assume by "others like him" you mean "the courts."

If so I agree very much.
#Sieve, ole buddy, you're in for a real surprise and it's going to be very hard for you to explain yourself to others. That day of reckoning is fast approaching. It's been laid out on a silver platter here for ya.......maybe you just go home every night and flip on CNN and MSNBC to reassure yourself......maybe that's what happens.
Lol, so menacing! You're totally scaring us into submission!

Just in case it's not clear who the bad guys are here. What a bunch of small-minded lunatics.
Don't mean to frighten you my little friend. I just want you to know I've been watching this like a movie.....with some popcorn from time to time. ;-)
Did you see the part where you guys eventually get rounded up into Obama's secret FEMA "re-education resorts"?
Werewolf
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#Sieve, 79-21 is pretty close to my 80-20 don't you think?

I'll even venture this. We have about 20 more days, and a lot can happen. We might ding 85-15.......

How the hell, #Sieve, can you sit there and with a straight face tell the Water Cooler that Kamala is the right pick!

Civilized
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Brother I'll give you all the action you want on 85/15 or 75/25. Hell I'll go down to 55/45.

You take the over, I'll take the under.
Werewolf
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Civilized said:

Brother I'll give you all the action you want on 85/15 or 75/25. Hell I'll go down to 55/45.

You take the over, I'll take the under.
#daSieve, it's not good, bro. It's not good. ;-) You've got time to jump the ship and save some face man, I'm pulling for ya! I am, do the right thing, admit Dimms are now Communist NWO, and stand with America!

It's like Byron says, we're gonna protect our children.

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Werewolf
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The top 1% control 40% of the wealth.

Then the next 49% control 56% of the wealth.

The bottom 50% only control 6%.

According to IRS data, Democrats represented 65% of taxpayers with a household income of $500,000 or more in 2020, while 74% of taxpayers in Republican districts have household incomes of less than $100,000.

Democrats now largely represent voters who live in districts with the highest GDP, including GDP of $90 billion or more.

Democrats represent the richest congressional districts.

They are supported by the most amount of billionaires and they receive the most amount of donations from big pharma and big business.

When Kamala Harris says she's going to help the middle class she is lying because the middle class are not her base. Her base are the affluent. The Democratic Party is the party of oligarchs, rich ones.

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TheStorm
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Sickening. If it doesn't happen anyway - as Civ incessantly claims - why are the Democrats against it?

Oh wait!
Werewolf
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TheStorm said:

Sickening. If it doesn't happen anyway - as Civ incessantly claims - why are the Democrats against it?

Election fraud, child trafficking and money laundering to the massive extent that it exists requires significant corruption of the system .......having become pervasive over time. Election fraud from overseas includes the CCP, Venezuela, Cuba and Iran. Who is colluding with them on the inside? I think we learn this over the coming months.....and it won't be pretty. How are we going to feel when we learn our govt institutions have been so involved? Who controlled Epstein? Who controlled P Diddy? I think the connections have been made here many times........it will soon be time to show it.

EDIT: forgot to attach...too much damn typing....

AlleyPack
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Just voted.
Giddyup.
packofwolves
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Florida suing Federal government/DHS. Biden/Harris are all in on preventing attempts to purge non citizens from voter rolls.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-slapped-major-lawsuit-over-alleged-refusal-help-state-purge-noncitizens-from-voter-rolls
Werewolf
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#SIeve, #Nappy and their fellow comrades stand firmly with Kamala and her well explained policies espoused during her last night's interview.

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/17/the-british-are-coming-u-k-labour-party-sends-100-staff-to-assist-kamala-harris/
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Werewolf
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How much longer will Biden's fake economy last? Gotta be close to collapse.


Oldsouljer
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Werewolf said:

How much longer will Biden's fake economy last? Gotta be close to collapse.



The Federal reserve has worked hard to forestall any economic shocks affecting the election.
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Civilized
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packofwolves said:

Florida suing Federal government/DHS. Biden/Harris are all in on preventing attempts to purge non citizens from voter rolls.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-slapped-major-lawsuit-over-alleged-refusal-help-state-purge-noncitizens-from-voter-rolls

Correct.

Changing voter rolls this close to the election is bush league, and likley illegal.

Go look up the National Voter Registration Act's mandates on voter roll quiet periods leading up to elections that were put in place to avoid late disenfranchisement of voters.
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TheStorm said:

Sickening. If it doesn't happen anyway - as Civ incessantly claims - why are the Democrats against it?

Oh wait!

LOLOL.

The only thing sickening is red states illegally trying to purge voter rolls right before an election.

Go look up the NVRA.

Federal law prohibits changing voter rolls right before an election. You had 3.75 years to attempt this lawfully. Sorry if following the law is inconvenient for you.
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Civ, regardless of the current law, what if the ones that were on the voting rolls were in fact illegal and should not be eligible to vote? Knowing how concerned you and I both want elections to be above board, what would your response be to my question?

Second, is it not possible that these voters in question have recently been determined to be ineligible or just been added to take advantage of the law?

Third, my biggest concern is why isn't local board of elections routinely reviewing and purging ineligible voters where this would not be an issue?
Werewolf
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Someone that has passed away or felony convicted should stay on the rolls if it occurred in that last 3.75 years......of course. #

Sieve is very much in favor of lawful activity....sure, that's it. :-)
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CoachCase said:

Civ, regardless of the current law, what if the ones that were on the voting rolls were in fact illegal and should not be eligible to vote? Knowing how concerned you and I both want elections to be above board, what would your response be to my question?

Second, is it not possible that these voters in question have recently been determined to be ineligible or just been added to take advantage of the law?

Third, my biggest concern is why isn't local board of elections routinely reviewing and purging ineligible voters where this would not be an issue?
The law exists because we have a long history of dirty tricks where voter rolls get purged right before an election, when there isn't enough time for the person purged to even realize they were purged, let alone do anything about it before election day.

If you're going to purge rolls, there should be enough time for purging "mistakes" to get corrected. If you're concerned about a last second voter registration conspiracy, then pass a law that prevents voter registration after a certain date before the election.
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#Sieve is in favor of lawful activity, but of course, he'll insist this isn't unlawful.
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CoachCase said:

Civ, regardless of the current law, what if the ones that were on the voting rolls were in fact illegal and should not be eligible to vote? Knowing how concerned you and I both want elections to be above board, what would your response be to my question?

Second, is it not possible that these voters in question have recently been determined to be ineligible or just been added to take advantage of the law?

Third, my biggest concern is why isn't local board of elections routinely reviewing and purging ineligible voters where this would not be an issue?

Do you walk around in your daily life in fear of an event that has a 0.0001 percent chance of happening, especially since that number would need to be 100-fold or 1000-fold higher in frequency for it to be a problem?

My response - for the hundredth time on here - is that this is a completely fake problem.
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A study of the 2016 election by the Brennan Center for Justice reviewing data for jurisdictions where some 23.5 million ballots were cast found just 30 cases of suspected noncitizen voting or 0.0001 percent of the total votes cast.

A Washington Post review of conservative Heritage Foundation election fraud tracking found 85 cases in which noncitizens attempted to vote between 2002 and 2023 a period during which 2 billion votes have been cast in federal elections.

The libertarian Cato Institute has also called the claims one of the "most frequent and less serious criticisms" relating to migration.

GOP pushes false claims about migrant voting: What are the facts?

Have you ever seen studies, anywhere, that claim otherwise?

So sure, purge away - when you can do so legally. Just keep in mind most "purging" isn't getting "illegal" voters off the rolls, it's to clean up voters that have died or moved or otherwise aren't going to be voting in the precinct in question.

And there are multiple safeguards against duplicate voting or voting illegally already, it's not like voter purging a month before an election is all standing between us and anarchy. Not even close.


packofwolves
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Civilized said:

packofwolves said:

Florida suing Federal government/DHS. Biden/Harris are all in on preventing attempts to purge non citizens from voter rolls.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-slapped-major-lawsuit-over-alleged-refusal-help-state-purge-noncitizens-from-voter-rolls

Correct.

Changing voter rolls this close to the election is bush league, and likley illegal.

Go look up the National Voter Registration Act's mandates on voter roll quiet periods leading up to elections that were put in place to avoid late disenfranchisement of voters.



Florida is accessing the database to confirm if they are citizens. Every state has the right to do that and DHS should not be allowed to block it. It is not an act of changing voter rolls, rather an act of confirming voter rolls.

Based on the data retrieved, if the state of Florida takes a step to remove them from voter rolls, DHS can sue to stop them.
Werewolf
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good post.
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Civilized
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packofwolves said:

Civilized said:

packofwolves said:

Florida suing Federal government/DHS. Biden/Harris are all in on preventing attempts to purge non citizens from voter rolls.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-slapped-major-lawsuit-over-alleged-refusal-help-state-purge-noncitizens-from-voter-rolls

Correct.

Changing voter rolls this close to the election is bush league, and likley illegal.

Go look up the National Voter Registration Act's mandates on voter roll quiet periods leading up to elections that were put in place to avoid late disenfranchisement of voters.



Florida is accessing the database to confirm if they are citizens. Every state has the right to do that and DHS should not be allowed to block it. It is not an act of changing voter rolls, rather an act of confirming voter rolls.

Based on the data retrieved, if the state of Florida takes a step to remove them from voter rolls, DHS can sue to stop them.

OK. There's a legal process so just follow the process.

If there are questions about the process, the courts can sort it.
CoachCase
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Thanks for your reply. If we are not going to ensure that everyone who votes is eligible to vote, then again this adds fuel to the fire that election fraud can occur. I think the biggest concern in today's environment is whether persons voting are citizens or not - a legitimate issue since the borders have an open door policy. I think a thorough examination of the boards of elections where most of these allegations are occurring would also help shed light as to whether the officials were doing their job or playing politics.
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The only way Trump loses this election is because of cheating. I said it! Yes, I am setting the stage for a loss by Trump. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it…
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